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Requested move 24 March 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Westbury-on-Trym be renamed and moved to Westbury on Trym.

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Westbury-on-Trym → Westbury on Trym – Per Ordnance Survey, article already mostly uses "Westbury on Trym" in text etc. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The provided rationale doesn't seem very explanatory. For example, we have Stratford-upon-Avon. What's wrong with the hyphens in this case? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:38, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The ngrams show that the hyphenated form has always been more common, including almost to the present day. [1] And the local road signs use them too (see maps.app.goo.gl/gAi1EGSVPZmxq5QMA). So I'd definitely be inclined to leave as is. The Ordnance Survey choice is not the definitive answer. — Amakuru (talk) 00:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru I'll see that and raise you this. Also Google Maps, Bing Maps, and OpenStreetMap don't seem to use hyphens (where they do for Stratford-upon-Avon). I'm not reading too much into Ngrams. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And this. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also the Co-op. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Methodists. Am I overdoing this :D YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not C of E though :( YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Funeral directors don't like hyphens. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:58, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well that's all rather nice. Some sources name it without hyphens, I don't think there's doubt about that. But more name it with hyphens, so that's what we should go with. I'm not really sure what anyone's hoping to achieve with this move or why it might be desirable. — Amakuru (talk) 21:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You've seen my list. Where's yours? And don't say Ngrams. YorkshireExpat (talk) 22:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly a Google Scholar search seems to suggest that the move to no hyphens is recent i.e. I can only see sources without in the last 20 years or so. And asking what anyone hopes to achieve with this seems to undermine the entire point of Wikipedia :D YorkshireExpat (talk) 22:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BarrelProof and Amakuru:. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all the map apps, Ordnance Survey, and at least some street signs. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Definitely divided usage. The school. The church. The Methodist church, proving it's even divided among the same organisation. Estate agents. St Monica Trust. The village hall. Therefore, no good reason to move. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]