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Add Amusement arcade

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Arcade game is at V4. I think the type of venue where arcade games are played should be listed here.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Ah, the fond memories of youth. Of course, V5. An interesting oversight consdering video game topics tend to be overrepresented at V5. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. per above. More important than some individual video games. starship.paint (RUN) 09:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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Remove United Microelectronics Corporation

Last comment 9 days ago. Removed 4-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:37, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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I'm not convinced we need more than one semiconductor fabrication plant on the list beyond TSMC  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. 𝒻eminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 13:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. The article does not make it clear why this company is vital. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 08:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Smile  5

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I've nominated a bunch of nonverbal communication topics above. This is another one we don't currently list.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 08:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. definitely Aurangzebra (talk) 08:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 10:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. :) starship.paint (RUN) 15:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  5. 🙂 QuicoleJR (talk) 13:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  6. @Feminist: Thanks. And a lot of them need to go on V4 as soon as they are ok'ed here, which is generally not a problem... you can probably start the noms early per snow. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  7. (◕‿◕✿) Vileplume (talk) 12:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Flirting  5

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A very common practice in Everyday life. Place this under Courtship  4

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 08:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:04, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. Definitely vital. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:28, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Sure. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:24, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Haute couture

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If we list nine individual fashion designs, we should list the concept.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 02:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support agree. Gizza (talk) 01:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Austrian school of economics

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The Austrian school of economics had a profound impact on economic thought and policy. The school, with figures like Ludwig von Mises  5 and Friedrich Hayek  4, has significantly shaped classical liberal and free-market theories. Its emphasis on individualism, subjective value theory, and critiques of central planning have enduring relevance in economic debates and policymaking, making it an essential subject for understanding diverse economic ideologies. The Blue Rider 16:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 02:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support an important influence on the likes of Reagan and Thatcher. Gizza (talk) 01:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Catwoman  5, add Fantastic Four

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Not removed 2-4, not added 4-4. Makkool (talk) 13:40, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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Support Batman character. 52 interwikis, ~1,700 pageviews are not bad, but I stand by by view that we need to remove some superhero entries for balance reasons. She also suffers from being a supporting character with no movie or TV series of her own, and no memorable impact on pop culture. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:28, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. essentially swap her and for the more important Fantastic Four Encyclopaedia Britannica: Fantastic Four, created in 1961, that brought an element of realism to the genre unique for its time. A cornerstone of Marvel’s universe of characters, the Fantastic Four remains one of the most popular superhero teams in comic book history [...] quickly became a triumph for Marvel ... By the late 1960s the Fantastic Four’s acclaim had extended beyond comic books. There have been four animated series and three films of the characters. starship.paint (RUN) 14:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
    Support swap with Fantastic Four. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 14:14, 8 January 2024 (UTC) Strike per below. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support add The numerous animated series and films document vitality.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:26, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support addition. Neutral on removal. I do think Marvel’s first family should be on here, but I’m not sure if we need to get rid of Catwoman to add them. I do think we should have at least three supervillians, and she is probably the most visible female villain in comics. At the same time though, she is not on par with either the Joker or Dr. Doom. SailorGardevoir (talk) 02:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose Catwoman as an individual female villain. Removing her leaves 4 male villians. Since we also only have one female superhero (Wonder Woman  4) out of 14 removing Catwoman would make it 1 out of 19 in the higher joint Superhero media subjects category. Catwoman should only be swapped out for an individual woman (not a group with a woman).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
    @TonyTheTiger "one female superhero" - Western, there is Sailor Moon (character)  5 there too. I'd consider supporting Supergirl, although quota remains a concern. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
    With the first name Sailor, I assumed she was male without looking further. That still does not address the lack of female villains without Catwoman.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Oppose. Was about to write the same as Tony yesterday, could see a case for a replacement with Harley Quinn, but that's likely a recentism. Respublik (talk) 18:20, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Definitely not convinced by the claim of her not having a pop culture impact, dedicated works aside Totalibe (talk) 10:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. Oppose both. I can see arguing in the 60s or 70s that the Fantastic Four were more prominent, but due to a bad luck of licensing and poor movies / few TV shows made with them, Catwoman seems to eclipse the FF in popularity / notability. SnowFire (talk) 05:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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Swap Tazos for Milk caps (game)

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Swapped 4-0. Makkool (talk) 13:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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Tazos is a brand of Pog or milk cap, and not enough well-known to be VA5

Support
  1. pbp 20:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. I think I proposed removal a short while ago, which I assume failed. Might be prudent to ping particpants of this - can be found in archives I am sure. Anyway, I support adding milk caps as less commercial and more historical/global.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. The Blue Rider 00:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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@Piotrus: - it's still active above #Remove Tazos 5 starship.paint (RUN) 15:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Tazos

Moot. Swapped with Milk caps(game). Makkool (talk) 13:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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Another toy/collectible that exists and is notable but not vital. 8 intewikis, <100 daily pageviews, nothing in the article suggests this is special (vital). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:08, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Never heard of them and the article does not even have a picture of them.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 08:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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  1. At least in my country tazos used to be incredibly popular, would only support as a swap with Milk caps (game). The Blue Rider 01:11, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion

Have proposed swap with milk caps below pbp 20:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

#Swap Tazos for Milk caps (game). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:39, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Simmering  5

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A very common food preparation technique.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🚰 (talk) 14:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. Seems vital. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support per above. Gizza (talk) 01:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Swap: Add Gnocchi  5 and Momo (food)  5, remove Chebureki

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Momo and Gnocchi added, Chebureki removed 4-0. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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The former Soviet Union is overrepresented under Dumpling  4, comprising two articles out of the three we list. We should have a more geographically diverse selection of dumplings. Both Gnocchi and Momo receive significantly more page views than each of the dumplings we list (daily page views last year: Gnocchi 1,857; Momo 1,609; Jiaozi 714; Pelmeni 409; Chebureki 210), and both have a broader reach worldwide than Pelmeni and Chebureki.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🚰 (talk) 13:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Great suggestions. Gizza (talk) 11:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mordred

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Same logic as with Morgan above, and roughly the same popularity: 36 interwikies, ~1500 daily views. Another key figure in Arthurian mythos - is it too random to include Guinevere and Lancelot but not Mordred or Morgan, IMHO, and their interwikis and daily views are about the same. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:32, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. SailorGardevoir (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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  1. Lancelot is quite prominent, I think, more than Mordred? starship.paint (RUN) 11:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
    Lancelot is already V5. I think their interwikis and daily views are similar. For what it is worth, ChatGPT weakly agrees with you, while also pointing out that Morder's role as the "ultimate antagonist" in the Arthurian saga makes him quite notable. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:31, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Add Jack-in-the-box  5

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The Blue Rider 17:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Bunch of toy additions above. What to add? Jack-in-the-box has 18 interwikis, 302 daily page views, is in the National Toy Hall of Fame (which is a bit US centric so not everything there screams vital IMHO), has few centuries of history and is a popculture icon too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:57, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:08, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Obviously. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Sports team shakeups (some removals, some swaps, some adds)

There's a thread above to reduce the number of sports teams so we hit our quota. We are currently over by 8. However, it is does not look like many of these are currently passing. I have several new proposals I'd like to add on top of Starship.paint's to clean up the list a little bit more while also making it more representative of what teams should be considered vital.

Remove Green Bay Packers  5, Chicago Bears

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We have way too many American football teams. People complain about the number of baseball teams in other threads but no one seems to mind that we have 6 American football teams, a sport that has almost no traction outside the US (at least baseball has widespread support in Latin America and East Asia). I think we only need 3 or 4: Cowboys for being 'America's team', Steelers/Patriots for winning the most Super Bowls, and then Notre Dame for their notoriety in college football. I think, if pressed, I would also be OK with removing the Steelers.

Support Packers
  1. As nom. Claim to fame is that they have the most wins of any NFL team but this is a very hyperlocalized accomplishment. Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Packers
  1. They constitute a good portion of the econony of Green Bay, Wisconsin, also, they are community owned, which is pretty unique, were a pioneering team for the development of NFL and, as you said, they have the most wins. The Blue Rider 01:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
    Eh, Green Bay isn’t even V5, but perhaps it should be? Vileplume (talk) 12:50, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
    User:OhnoitsvileplumeXD, see Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Everyday_life/Sports,_games_and_recreation#American_football.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
    I wasn’t talking about the Packers, I was talking about the city. Vileplume (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
    That would be a reasonable nomination, but it has little to do with this nomination.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per The Blue Rider. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per TBR-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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Support Bears
  1. As nom. Only 1 Super Bowl win. Plenty of championship wins before the NFL-AFL merger may be their one claim to fame but this is not a VA5-worthy accomplishment. Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 09:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support per nom. Gizza (talk) 08:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
  5. Regretable support.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add United States women's national soccer team

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Dreadful lack of women's teams on this list. If there's only one woman team we should add, it should be this one. Most successful women's soccer team, contributed to the professionalization of female sports, first woman's team of any sport to reach a certain level of celebrity etc.

Support
  1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 02:52, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Remove St. Louis Cardinals and Chicago Cubs, Add Los Angeles Dodgers

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Willing to die on the 'adding the Dodgers' hill. To sweeten the deal, I propose removing two baseball teams if it means we can add this one. TonyTheTiger and I covered all the rationale in the 'Add Los Angeles Dodgers' thread somewhere above but the general gist is that they are the dominant powerhouses of the West, they broke the color barrier with Jackie Robinson, and they are globally known for consistently being pioneers in attracting international talent (first Spanish sportscaster, first Japanese transplant etc.). I can guarantee you almost everyone in Japan knows the Los Angeles Dodgers as well as the vast majority of Latin America. If there can only be three American baseball teams on this list, the Dodgers should be one.

Support Remove St. Louis Cardinals
  1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. support removing any team but the Yankees to add the Dodgers as explained below.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 09:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support --Makkool (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
  6. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 09:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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Support Remove Chicago Cubs
  1. support removing any team but the Yankees to add the Dodgers as explained below.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 09:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support --Makkool (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 09:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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  1. I personally don't agree with removing the Cubs for the reasons in the Cubs thread above but if that is the compromise needed to add the Dodgers, willing to go along with it.
Support Add Los Angeles Dodgers
  1. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. as I have stated above, the Dodgers are one of the two most important baseball franchises. The New York Yankees have dominated on the field with by far the most championships. On the field, the Dodgers are approximately on par with St. Louis Cardinals and well above the Chicago Cubs and Boston Red Sox. However in the executive offices they are by far the most influential franchise. Jackie Robinson Day is an indication of how significant their racial breakthrough was. By hiring the first full time Spanish language broadcaster and then building up a Spanish language broadcast network that transmits in dozens of countries, they have had broadened the sport making kids all over Latin America dream of playing in the major leagues. For many this dream has come true. Then by being the first team to raid Nippon Professional Baseball talent (Hideo Nomo), the first team to play a South Korean baseball player (Chan Ho Park), the first team to play a Taiwanese player (Chin-Feng Chen), the first MLB team to allow a female sports journalist into a locker room (Anita Martini), and First MLB team to employ a female lead trainer (Sue Falsone, 2012), they became the most influential team in baseball.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nominator and TonyTheTiger. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Not an expert in baseball, but I'm seeing that we're getting over quota in the games, sports and recreation section. --Makkool (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Essendon Football Club

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The Blue Rider 15:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Not sure why Australian rules football, a sport that has zero importance outside Australia, needs two teams. It seems like Essendon is the worse of the two on the list so I think we can remove them.

Support Remove Essendon
  1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 01:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 09:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support not vital at this level. I'd also be tempted to swap Carlton with Collingwood. Gizza (talk) 01:36, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 20:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
  6. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 09:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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Remove FC Porto

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The Blue Rider 15:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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They are definitely a storied club but they are arguably not even the best club in Portugal (that honor may go to SL Benfica). No major international dynasties like the other clubs on this list and no history of being extremely rich and globally connected and supported like PSG/Chelsea. I know about FC Porto and its history because I like and follow soccer but I do not think it has the name recognition of the other teams on this list to warrant a spot here. As a sidenote, when we do clean up this list a bit, I want to add a proposal to include at least one historic South American club (such as Boca Juniors or Santos FC - both clubs achieved more international success than Porto and have arguably contributed more to the game through their history). Let me know what your thoughts are on that idea.

Support
  1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support per nom. --Makkool (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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  1. FC Porto has more international honours than Benfica and it was a very strong club during the 1980's, 2000's and 2010's, winning 2 Champions. One thing you have to understand is that football clubs in Portugal exerce a lot of power in politics; and they have been involved in multiple scandals, such as Apito Dourado, Luís Filipe Vieira, Football Leaks and many other non-notable corruption investigations. The Blue Rider 11:59, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
    Fair points. But a couple of things: SL Benfica is the most decorated club in Portugal, they rank 8th in UEFA's all-time club ranking as opposed to Porto in 9th, they were voted 12th in the FIFA Club of the Century rankings (Porto isn't on this list at all), and 9th in the IFFHS Top 200 European clubs of the 20th century rankings list (Porto is 29th). So Porto may not even be the most notable team in Portugal. On top of that, many clubs are heavily involved in their country's politics (think Francisco Franco and Real Madrid) and involved in corruption scandals (e.g. Calciopoli and Juventus). Both the examples I listed are more notable pieces of evidence for each of these topics than Porto's respective involvements with theirs.
    It really pains me to remove it because I know they are significant but when we only have a quota of 50 teams, I'm just not sure what else we can remove at this point (especially if we want to look into including at least one woman's team). I would actually propose increasing the sports teams quota to 60 so we wouldn't have to deal with these tough decisions but I'm not sure how popular that would be. Aurangzebra (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
    SL Benfica is the most decorated club domestically but not internationally. FC Porto is almost always ahead of Benfica in the UEFA Club coefficients. If FC Porto has to be removed then will only support it if AFC Ajax  5 also is, since Portugal is a more important country regarding football than the Netherlands. The Blue Rider 01:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
    Don't know if I agree with either of those things: Netherlands has been runner-up at the World Cup 3 times (as recently as 2010), Portugal's best finish was 3rd in 1966. They have achieved similar performances at the Euros and there are 4 Dutch players (maybe more? gave up counting after I searched for the obvious ones) in VA5 sportspeople versus 3 Portuguese. I specifically did not choose Ajax here because of their Golden Age in the 1970s with Johan Cruyff  4 which was arguably the best European decade for any club outside the big 5 countries.
    Once again, I do think Porto is notable, I just had to make a judgment call for what to cut to hit quota. Ideally, we add more quota for sports teams. I have no clue why we can only have 50 sports teams but 100+ video games. Aurangzebra (talk) 03:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Dog agility

NO CONSENSUS
Makkool (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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A popular type of animal sport with international participation. --Makkool (talk) 13:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. --Makkool (talk) 13:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Weak support; slighty popular I suppose. The Blue Rider 14:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Fix The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy link in the Film section to the page for the 2005 film instead of the book

Done on 26 January. The franchise The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was moved from the Arts page to Society, under Mass media. --Makkool (talk) 13:33, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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Pretty simple request I hope. In the section Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Arts#Specific films, the link for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy leads to the book page, rather than the page for the 2005 Film, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Sorry if this is the wrong way to ask for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwamplero (talk • contribs) 23:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Great catch! Just went in and fixed this. Though it does lead me to start thinking about why The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (film) is even on this list... I think I'll start another thread because this film is certainly not anywhere as notable as the others on this list. Aurangzebra (talk) 00:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
What was listed was The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which is that franchise and what was proposed to be listed. The Blue Rider 00:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh my bad, undid it. Aurangzebra (talk) 00:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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