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Inconsistent Death Toll

In the Casualties section of the article, it's said that 45 people died, but then a gender breakdown adds up to 46 deaths. These can't both be true, but I can't find any sources besides the Reuters source used that claims that 46 people died, so I believe it may have accidentally counted the girl that survived as one of deceased. Does anyone have more details on this?--Elipticon (talk) 13:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Normally reliable sources make mistakes, but we don't have to follow them. It's even worse than you suggest as it says 31+15 passengers died, thereby excluding the driver, making it 47 in all. The "31+15" should be deleted (I also couldn't find any such breakdown in any other reference, all of which have 45 deaths) and, indeed, better to remove that Reuters reference altogether. It is also used to claim that Ramaphosa "pledged support to the nation [ie Botswana]", though that is not in the article, at least as of now. It is clear that that Reuters article has been revised over time, but that cannot now be verified as they prevent archiving (another reason not to use it). - Davidships (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism

First paragraph in the background section is straight up plagarized from this article: https://www.dw.com/en/south-africa-bus-crash-leaves-dozens-dead/a-68695354

If we could get a change to this part it would be great Sharrdx (talk) 03:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

I've tagged this article as its notability is tenuous. Individual events are not notable unless they have significant long-term coverage; per WP:SUSTAINED, Wikipedia is a lagging indicator of notability and simple news coverage is not sufficient. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible vandalism?

Hi, is this nonsense about "unlucky" and "lucky" in the lead relevant or is it just vandalism? I am not bold enough to edit it so, I am just raising awareness.

EDIT: Apologies, it was fixed in the time it took me to write this. SynthGuard (talk) 18:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s an LTA IP who prolifically targets disaster related pages. Said IP should always be banned long term. Borgenland (talk) 01:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]