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Hi DIVINE. A volunteer forwarded me an email that you sent yesterday to UTRS administration, in which you appear to have been contacted by someone calling themselves "Ivan" who appears to be impersonating me. I want to assure you that this person is not me. My real name is not Ivan, and I only email users through Wikipedia's "email a user" function in which case you would receive a masked email from wiki@wikimedia.org which indicates which user sent the message. I do not email users directly unless we've previously established communications, and I do not do private investigations except within the scope of checkuser, and any findings from checkuser investigations are posted publicly to the extent that our privacy policies allow.

I strongly suggest you do not communicate with this person any further. If you want to submit information about paid editing you should send it to paid-en-wp@wikimedia.org, and never to anyone else.

I am restoring your talk page access so that you can respond to the WP:AN discussion about your block. DO NOT post any personal information about yourself or any other editor anywhere on Wikipedia. If you have any comments for the discussion please post them on this page and somebody will copy them to AN. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Ivanvector First of all, I would like to thank you for restoring my talk page access and allowing me to make my points clear here. I have already mentioned many things on my #UTRS appeal, and currently, I have 35 watchers and 1,179 pageviews on this talk page. It will not be wise to explain many things here. Still, I would like to address @Usedtobecool concern: @Usedtobecool Till now, I have not filed any official complaint against you anywhere, and I won't be doing that. You need to be relaxed and continue your daily routine of editing, sorry for the inconvenience. Regarding your concern about ANI, can I communicate with you via email if it is possible? Thank you DIVINE 13:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know, DIVINE, and thanks! About email though, I just can't imagine what we'd talk about. I already shared everything I could find, at AN. It's up to the community now. If you wish to share private evidence about yourself or other editors, you'll have to do that with a functionary or arbcom. They can then anonymise the content and ask my opinion if they need it. Best, — Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:13, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Take care @Usedtobecool. I asked you about email communication because you raised some concerns on AN but I have already emailed you. You don't have to respond if you feel not to. DIVINE 14:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to reiterate what I and Ivanvector already said, if you want to submit information about paid editing you should send it to paid-en-wp@wikimedia.org. Also, if anyone sends you and email claiming to be an admin, you can send it there as well. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will send that to @Ivanvectoras they were mentioned beforehand and they were the blocking administrator :) DIVINE 16:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ivanvector* my auto typing my bad @pakoda DIVINE 16:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This user is asking that his block be reviewed:

DIVINE (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Please check UTRS appeal #87097 too as my TPA was revoked before. Just to note that most of the users to whom my tagged at COI notice has been found using multiple accounts and has been blocked by CU. About legal threats I have personally apologized user:usedtobecool about my actions and behavior. About their all concerns which they mentioned on AN I have made them clear that I haven’t filed any official complaint against them anywhere and will not do that also you can verify that in my talk page. Also, I request you to note that whenever I get into AN my anxiety level rises too much which I had also mentioned in AN. While user: Bivhuti45 was dragging me off being a sock puppet and was making personal attacks at me, I requested admins to check them out multiple times but finally rogusill has blocked them too due to their UPE and ignoring multiple COI warnings. Also, I cannot deny that I haven’t made mistakes. I Have done many, but I want to contribute further to keep those mistakes in my mind and disclosing all of my previous coi/upe editing which I have done. Please consider my unblock request thankyou. DIVINE 20:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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{{unblock reviewed |1=Please check UTRS appeal #87097 too as my TPA was revoked before. Just to note that most of the users to whom my tagged at COI notice has been found using multiple accounts and has been blocked by CU. About legal threats I have personally apologized user:usedtobecool about my actions and behavior. About their all concerns which they mentioned on AN I have made them clear that I haven’t filed any official complaint against them anywhere and will not do that also you can verify that in my talk page. Also, I request you to note that whenever I get into AN my anxiety level rises too much which I had also mentioned in AN. While user: Bivhuti45 was dragging me off being a sock puppet and was making personal attacks at me, I requested admins to check them out multiple times but finally rogusill has blocked them too due to their UPE and ignoring multiple COI warnings. Also, I cannot deny that I haven’t made mistakes. I Have done many, but I want to contribute further to keep those mistakes in my mind and disclosing all of my previous coi/upe editing which I have done. Please consider my unblock request thankyou. [[User:DIVINE|<b style="color:#29F">DI</b><b style="color:red">V</b>]][[User talk:DIVINE|<b style="color:#080">I</b><b style="color:#808">N</b>]][[Special:Contribs/DIVINE|<b style="color:#FA0">E</b>]] 20:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=Please check UTRS appeal #87097 too as my TPA was revoked before. Just to note that most of the users to whom my tagged at COI notice has been found using multiple accounts and has been blocked by CU. About legal threats I have personally apologized user:usedtobecool about my actions and behavior. About their all concerns which they mentioned on AN I have made them clear that I haven’t filed any official complaint against them anywhere and will not do that also you can verify that in my talk page. Also, I request you to note that whenever I get into AN my anxiety level rises too much which I had also mentioned in AN. While user: Bivhuti45 was dragging me off being a sock puppet and was making personal attacks at me, I requested admins to check them out multiple times but finally rogusill has blocked them too due to their UPE and ignoring multiple COI warnings. Also, I cannot deny that I haven’t made mistakes. I Have done many, but I want to contribute further to keep those mistakes in my mind and disclosing all of my previous coi/upe editing which I have done. Please consider my unblock request thankyou. [[User:DIVINE|<b style="color:#29F">DI</b><b style="color:red">V</b>]][[User talk:DIVINE|<b style="color:#080">I</b><b style="color:#808">N</b>]][[Special:Contribs/DIVINE|<b style="color:#FA0">E</b>]] 20:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

DIVINE 20:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will carry this to AN, and perhaps the UTRS ticket too as only admins can see it.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou for being always kind @Deepfriedokra :) DIVINE 16:48, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The UTRS is too convoluted. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Deepfriedokracan i email you to make it clear? DIVINE 16:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't. If you mean to post to AN, then please post it here and someone can carry it over. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn’t mean but before me someone else did and i per Ivanvector suggestion i wont or no longer willing to discover my identity here rather it’s email. DIVINE 17:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes no particular sense, but I don't want content emailed to me and anything the community needs to consider can be posted here, and please do not post your PII or anyone else's. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t understand about PLL but i want you to look all AN communications posted by me and my communications over there and my multiple requests. Additionally, impersonating @Ivanvectorbeing admin is not more than worthy while the information was Oversighted :) DIVINE 18:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that @UtherSRGwasn’t interested before and they clearly mentioned not to involve them at AN before. DIVINE 18:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Deepfriedokraalso post my utrs request up at ANI everything DIVINE 19:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Deepfriedokramany peoples non-admin mostly don’t know about UTRS appeal #87097. Can you highlight there? DIVINE 19:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PII. Personally Identifying Information -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. 87097 please post everything at AN
DIVINE 19:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also Wikipedia say this when you google PLl Phase-locked loop DIVINE 19:43, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's PLL, not P I I. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. UTRS87097 please post everything at AN
DIVINE 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Someone please post this history to AN: #UTRS87097
Why should you be unblocked?
I want to request my account to be unblocked because: 1. I have accepted my mistake of self-promoting myself (which i consider as a biggest mistake which i ever made but i tried to hide because i didn’t wanted to reveal my identity) but creating autbiography was my bad. 2. I have created few UPE articles, few COI articles which i accepted but to show the proof or verify them i don’t have much evidence so i can’t blame me much but during off wiki communications with a admin who didn’t reveal their identity, they suggested me to keep those in my mind. 3. I am willing to disclose all the paid works or COI previously done by me which are just few in numbers and most of them are already deleted or about to get deleted anyway. 4. I didn’t threatened to post public information on User:Usedtobecool but i mentioned that i might/know them but i wont dox their identity as doxing is big no which is OS’d now but can be checked by any reviewing administrator. To note: 1. I have never missued my previous rights being NPR, Rollbacker or PCR and my efforts to fight vandalism should be atleast remembered/recognzied. 2. We all make mistakes and the mistake was a legal threat but that only came in my mind because User:Otucha used word killing and User:Usedtobecool mentioned my facebook profile, my university name on ongoing discussion multiple times at AN to the public which i felt was doxing. 3. I quited arguments and accepted that it was me with all of myself where the topic was quite different about the connection. 4. My connection with user:Tulsi has been shared to the admin who communicated with me on off-wiki via email which i provided on User:Usedtobecool talk page which was OS’d and i created their draft only because they used to ping me every time to create their draft which i ignored most of the time but at last i submitted on Draft space. 5. I have been on wikipedia since 10 years at the age of 16 and i tried to learn but i started being active with contribution mostly and the starting articles which i created were the act of learning phase and i have never ever missused or use multiple accounts or has violated Sockpuppet policy. I have been reported to SPI multiple times but nothing has been proven yet but still checkusers can re-check from depth. To conclude myself: I want to apologize to the community for my numerous mistakes which i did, i had done before and i will try to avoid or not to do in future but cleaning up draftspace, checking upon new articles, fighting with vandalism were my favorite work if i get a chance i will be back and continue doing that. I also think in deep about Spicy comment before and declining suggestions but we all learn from our mistakes, we are human beings. Please also check the articles which i have created for the community and the time and effort which i have given to the community. I have given my almost half of the age while volunteering here at community and i would like to continue doing that without any afraidness of getting caught or without being afraid of revealing my identity which has been already done by others and by me myself. Thankyou very much for re-considering.
+ Deepfriedokra
2024-04-05 19:58:00
No one threatened to kill you. Perhaps your ability to understand English is insufficient.
Additionally: User:Tulsi personally requested and ask my photos to send them for commons purposes. I sent them with my willingness before. I also want to clarify that i have never met them in personal life but yes has communicated via social media.
Deepfriedokra
2024-04-05 20:14:13
Access to this entry is restricted.
DIVINE
2024-04-05 21:02:11
In my first UTRS appeal i wrote it myself than asked ChatGPT to rewrite it in grammatical order which i often does to make my grammatical error clearer. I got the email same time after getting blocked from name Suka Ratom which was quite different but this was it and they claimed to be an investigator and they also mentioned they cannot reveal their identity but while they sent me email it was written IVAN so i thought it was Ivanvector.: Hi, Thank you for providing an avenue to discuss with you off-wiki. I'm curious — could you submit any and all evidence to me here? Appreciated. Ivan
DIVINE
2024-04-05 21:09:56
Additionally here is another part of their email who called themselves Suka Ratom on email: By gang, do you mean a UPE group? Could you provide evidence that User:Otuọcha has threatened you? Otuọcha has brought on issues but that is a problem for a different forum. The reason I am contacting you via email is to remain anonymous. I'm sorry, but we can't disclose much as this is an on-going investigation.
System
2024-04-05 21:59:03
Action: account verified
DIVINE
2024-04-07 20:29:14
Just to note that most of the users to whom my tagged at COI notice has been found using multiple accounts and has been blocked by CU. About legal threats I have personally apologized user: usedtobecool about my actions and behavior. About their all concerns which they mentioned on AN I have made them clear that I haven’t filed any official complaint against them anywhere and will not do that also you can verify that in my talk page. Also, I request you to note that whenever I get into AN my anxiety level rises too much which I had also mentioned in AN. While user: Bivhuti45 was dragging me off being a sock puppet and was making personal attacks at me, I requested admins to check them out multiple times but finally rogusill has blocked them too due to their UPE and ignoring multiple COI warnings. Also, I cannot deny that I haven’t made mistakes. I Have done many, but I want to contribute further to keep those mistakes in my mind and disclosing all of my previous coi/upe editing which I have done. Please consider my unblock request thankyou.
Yamla
2024-04-08 11:43:47
Action: reserve
Yamla
2024-04-08 11:43:56
Action: set status as DECLINE
Yamla
2024-04-08 11:43:56
You have an open appeal of this block on your user talk page on Wikipedia, which means your appeal will be handled there. Please be sure to monitor your talk page for updates on the status of your block appeal. DIVINE 20:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Asking to take you to an ani is personal threat Usedtobecool while ani is for everyone? DIVINE 20:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have pasted the contents from UTRS. Not in exactly the format you posted above, as I was doing so (and announced I was doing so) before you posted the above. Note that I made no changes to the contents whatsoever, simply copied and pasted with absolute minimal formatting changes. Also note I am not monitoring this talk page, so will not respond to requests to modify my paste because I literally won't see such a request. --Yamla (talk) 20:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I requested them multiple times, please @Yamla: do this it’s my request as they need to know everything as there’s no hate and debate :) DIVINE 20:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
leprovacknc vote cannot be considered as legitimate they mentioned me and invited me before they have COI so. Additionally, its not RFA its AN, are you supporting me to be an admin? DIVINE 21:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who doxed my identity at AN was @Usedtobecool@Lizthere identity was never doxed if you were mistaken. DIVINE 21:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their vote should be ignored as they were involved before with conflict of interests: Decline per Novem, Lepricavark, and at the pace that they've been pinging participants of this discussion, removing TPA again may be in order. Also noting that they've sent me two unsolicited emails via the Wikipedia interface--I have not bothered to read them. signed, Rosguill talk 4:46 am, Today (UTC+7)
Decline per all of the above. Rosquill's point about unsolicited emails and pinging participants of this discussion is worrisome to me and indicates to me nothing about this editor's conduct would change if they were unblocked. Philipnelson99 DIVINE 22:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguilldo you accept/deny that you and user @Usedtobecool are not in daily communication? And do you deny that rfa vote of @Usedtobecool ring a bell of something Suka Ratom? DIVINE 22:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, this is not my personal attack but just an question from an block user to an active administrator DIVINE 22:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, Suka Ratom was not me. It could be anybody who saw your activities in the hour before you were blocked. You said you had evidence about UPE activities of multiple accounts. So, it could be someone from Wikipedia who was interested. If they used Wikipedia email, you should have their username. If they didn't, maybe they saw you post your personally identifying information and found your email from there, but that's why that was a bad idea. I am guessing you meant AN not RFA? Because I see that I wrote just four words at Rosguill's RFA, I don't know how that could be evidence of anything. And Rosguill and I are not in daily communication. I've sent them a few emails ever when I felt I had something to say about admin matters they could help with; they've replied only through taking or not taking onwiki actions informed by them. That's further evidence for you that I am not the only one who values their anonymity on Wikipedia; not everyone who tells you in an email that they prefer to remain anonymous is me. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@UsedtobecoolSuka Ratom in email talk about my topic ban, afd and afd etc which you mentioned in the AN. Additionally, they mentioned multiple times they are in touch with @Rosguilland two other admins multiple times. The texts are identical to eachother DIVINE 07:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying I doxxed your identity by suggesting decline in the unblock discussion...? Philipnelson99 (talk) 23:03, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that my vote should be ignored. My only conflict of interest is participating in the prior community discussion at AN. Philipnelson99 (talk) 02:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blablubbs

@Blablubbs: there is nothing new to worry there’s no sherlock afraider holes here pleaase go the creator CU for Andrea Diprè DIVINE 20:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I am struggling to understand this message. Could you rephrase your query? What is it you want me to do? And why do you want me to do it? --Blablubbs (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
can you please recheck justin jin entrepreneur, shewasafairy and iamtla please go incognito to swapd dot co they are really something and will come back with multiple upe or socks their use claims. TLA and shewasfair and the rest was small portions of them DIVINE 21:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also follow or try to connect Andrea Diprè article creator DIVINE 21:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
sorry for my bad grammar i do have some anxiety and i am Nepali my mother language is Nepali please don’t mind me DIVINE 22:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Deepfriedokra

@Ivanvectoronly gave me the access to my talk page was to response at my unblock request, you pasted my last convo but didn’t pasted my previous convo and nobody will hate you to paste my response while you just have to do CTRL+

Sometimes AN can be mislead by some groups/user DIVINE 20:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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