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Somaliland Recognition

Somaliland MFA announced that Ethiopia will recognize them with the memorandum of understanding released today and signed by Ethiopia's Prime Minister. It's not speculation.

https://twitter.com/somalilandmfa/status/1741938472884023507

https://twitter.com/somalilandmfa/status/1741938490428768714

Signed Memorandum

https://twitter.com/somalilandmfa/status/1741935770246558116 MumpsimusManchuMagi (talk) 03:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A statement published on X, formerly Twitter, by Abiy’s office welcomed the agreement but made no mention of recognition of Somaliland, only committing to “advance mutual interests through cooperation on the basis of reciprocity--The Guardian Article, Ethiopia hasn't made their recognition official *yet*. Probably a good idea to hold off explicitly stating it for the moment. Zinderboff(talk) 06:50, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recognition would definitely need to come from the Ethiopia side, and be explicitly reported as recognition by reliable secondary sources. CMD (talk) 10:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you look on the somaliland twitter, the recognition agreement has been signed now 92.40.219.220 (talk) 15:13, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need more than Somaliland twitter to confirm, Ethiopia needs to explicitly state their recognition through official means, which might come soon, but for now we have nothing Zinderboff(talk) 12:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead length

I know through previous efforts and discussion the length of the lead was greatly reduced from its previously overly lengthy state. But now I noticed the lead suffers from the reverse and is way too short to summarise the information presented within the article.

See MOS:LEADLENGTH, an article of this length should have a corresponding lead of three or four paragraphs, now there's only two. Zinderboff(talk) 12:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The cut lead text was mostly excessive history, which should not be added back. New paragraphs should be crafted to cover politics, administration, economy, demography, and culture. CMD (talk) 13:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[[User:Flappiefh] I wanted to ask you if you have time if you wanted to fix ur map about Somaliland where it says Territory claimed but not controlled and update it on par with the current state of the Somali civil war controll map. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Civil_War Since Somaliland has lost controll of alot of land much more than what your map shows.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobroon (talk • contribs) 16:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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outdated info, Somaliland is recognized by one other country as of January 2024, Ethiopia https://citizen.digital/opinion-blogs/opinion-how-ethiopias-recognition-of-somaliland-can-aid-in-its-quest-for-international-recognition-n334257 Rickman785 (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thickynugnug (talk) 04:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The image below shows the land controlled by the self-proclaimed government of Somaliland as of August 2023 as the government no longer controls the Sool, Sanaag, Ayn (Buhoodle) region of Somalia.

File:Somaliland

Land controlled by Somaliland self-proclaimed government as of August 2023

https://www.kormeeraha.com/2022/01/20/no-somaliland-recognition-without-sool-and-sanaag-on-board/ Waraabe12 (talk) 03:39, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I've made the change on Commons, so you might need to refresh the page. Alaexis_¿question? 10:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refuse to accept description on SL status from reliable sources such as BBC

I added a reliable source that describes SL status, but there is a continuous attempt to refuse that by a person known as Buufin. The person reverts the change and removes the source provided and continuously tries to vandalise the page. What can we do stop that? How is it possible to remove a fact supported by a source? Shahad9900 (talk) 12:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've said it many times, and I'll say it again. Somaliland is no longer classified as a self-declared state because the Republic of China (Taiwan) recognizes it. Buufin (talk) 20:38, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable source and up-to-date that still describes SL as self-declared was attached. The provided source is cited clearly in the text. On the other hand, you cannot provide any source that states Taiwan recognition is enough to not consider it as self-declared. On the contrary modern popular sources still shares and describes SL as self-declared. Your change also must be removed immediately following Wikipedia policy in content removal as it is inaccurate and with no citable source. We will hear from the community, but you are violating Wikipedia edit policy. Sharwa (talk) 21:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be some disruptive editing behaviour, and unwillingness to accept cited source. I urge members of the community to interfere to build consensus on this matter Shahad9900 (talk) 19:57, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buufin did the right thing. Jethro1945 (talk) 11:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]