Talk:Dave Stewart (musician, born 1950)

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The article reads more like a review of Stewart's career then an objective view over his work. It is actually an interesting read, but it doesn't fit in an encyclopedia I think. - Velour 04:31, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's incomplete.. When I've finished it it will be more encyclopaedic (Nighttripper 16:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC))[reply]

It was almost all POV. I've removed most of the bio. Chiok 14:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've re-written the bio and removed the POV tag. Bondegezou 10:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added Khan to the discography

Does he play trombone? I ask because a David Stewart plays trombone on Michael Nyman's The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, or is this yet another British musician like David A. Stewart, only not notable enough to have his own Wikipedia article? --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 April 2024

The request to rename this article to Dave Stewart (musician, born 1950) has been carried out.

If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

– Both of these titles are ambiguous with Dave Stewart (Eurythmics). Don't like the proposed title for the second case but I'm unable to come up with anything else. This was originally brought up on WP:DISCORD. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 16:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The third page, Dave Stewart (Eurythmics), was added by – robertsky (talk) for further consideration at 16:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, although even Dave Stewart (Eurythmics) is a suspect disambiguator.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Reopened the discussion due to a related request at RM/TR. – robertsky (talk) 16:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc., @Btspurplegalaxy, @Doomsdayer520, @Pppery, @Ortizesp, @Necrothesp: I have reopened the discussion in light of another request at RM/TR. – robertsky (talk) 16:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At WP:RM/TR, a request to move David Stewart (Dynamite producer) to David Stewart (English producer) was made. However, upon further discussion, we realised that Dave Stewart (Eurythmics) had to be moved as well. As such upon urging from 162 etc., this discussion is being reopened. The moves made previously has been reverted as well. Given my participation in the RM/TR discussion, I will refrain from closing this discussion. However, I would propose that the articles to be moved as such:

The Eurthymics dab move was suggested by Btspurplegalaxy in the RM/TR discussion.

The Dynamite dab move was suggested by me in the RM/TR discussion, upon further search on Google, with rationale as follows: possible to slide this under WP:ABOUTSELF: David Stewart (English producer, born 1989)? He had been wishing himself happy birthday on his social 32 in 2021, and 33 in 2022 around December each year, and his sister had referred to him has her older brother by five years in various interviews in 2022 and in 2017. She's born in Jan 1995, while if his socials are right, Dec 1989. While we tend to go by calendar year for age calculation, their natural age difference is 5 years and 1-2 months apart. Anecdotally, I have known of Dec-Jan siblings counting it this way as well..

However, Pppery felt that the rationale is a bit too OR-y.

Discussion at RM/TR for: David Stewart (Dynamite producer) → David Stewart (English producer)

David Stewart (Dynamite producer) → David Stewart (English producer) - I believe the current title of the article may not be the most fitting. I would suggest changing it to another the disambiguation name. Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 00:11 22 April 2024 (UTC)
@Btspurplegalaxy: But Dave Stewart (Eurythmics) is also a record/music producer, and English. Any other suggestions? – robertsky (talk) 10:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per David Stewart (footballer, born 1869) and some other examples at the David Stewart disambig page, I believe the next option here would be David Stewart (producer, born XXXX). Unfortunately his year of birth is not given in the article (or in his father's article) and I can't find it in any reliable source. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend updating the reference to Dave Stewart (Eurythmics) to either Dave Stewart (English musician, born 1952) or simply Dave Stewart (musician, born 1952). This ensures clear disambiguation, as Dave Stewart's birthdate cannot be verified, leaving only the producer disambiguation. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 14:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Btspurplegalaxy, @Doomsdayer520: possible to slide this under WP:ABOUTSELF: David Stewart (English producer, born 1989)? He had been wishing himself happy birthday on his social 32 in 2021, and 33 in 2022 around December each year, and his sister had referred to him has her older brother by five years in various interviews in 2022 and in 2017. She's born in Jan 1995, while if his socials are right, Dec 1989. While we tend to go by calendar year for age calculation, their natural age difference is 5 years and 1-2 months apart. Anecdotally, I have known of Dec-Jan siblings counting it this way as well. – robertsky (talk) 16:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 17:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This feels a bit too OR-y for my taste. And in any event as the current title resulted from a seven-day move discussion any new moves would need one as well. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robertsky: It seems that there is some debate about this, and the closure of the RM[1] may have been premature. I urge you to consider undoing the close and relisting. 162 etc. (talk) 18:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc. different pair of articles though? – robertsky (talk) 18:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't? 162 etc. (talk) 18:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc. hmm... upon relooking at the RM, I will have it reopened later, and include this. – robertsky (talk) 12:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsed above was the discussion at RM/TR, copied here for our benefit to follow the conversation. – robertsky (talk) 16:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the record I am fine with the move of Dave Stewart (Eurythmics), except I don't think "English" is necessary, and Dave Stewart (musician, born 1952) would suffice. But see Talk:Dave Stewart (Eurythmics)#Requested move 30 October 2023. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery, to continue the RM/TR discussion, on the birth year of the Dynamite producer, although it may feel OR-y (of which I agree, it was a hard one hour of trying to find direct secondary sources, but all I found were these (linked above)), there is some allowance as routine calculation provided that there's a consensus on this. As such, opening this up as a point for discussion. – robertsky (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]