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This sentence in the opening section erroneously names Trump, when it presumably meant Melania:

Trump grew up in Slovenia (then part of Yugoslavia) and worked as a fashion model through agencies in the European fashion capitals of Milan and Paris, before moving to New York City in 1996. 2603:8000:3F01:90CD:1A1:427F:456E:F6A2 (talk) 13:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump, as in Melania's last name. Who else? Dimadick (talk) 14:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is very poorly written. Her main claim to fame is her being the wife of DJT. Using her last married name to identify her in the same article as using it for him is really poor writing.98.21.68.176 (talk) 02:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False Statement....not

"Despite Donald Trump's loss of the 2020 election, Melania ended her tenure by endorsing his false statement that he had been the legitimate election winner."


The word "false" should be deleted from the above sentence and only the word "statement" should be included'.

By adding the word False, you are stating YOUR opinion and not the facts. 2601:680:CC00:FDD0:C9C0:3D21:B085:7F3A (talk) 06:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not opinion. It is the result of scores of court cases, recounts, and investigations and well sourced. O3000, Ret. (talk) 21:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2024

It says In 2005 Trump married Donald Trump. What does this mean? 2001:579:C250:2AD:4FE6:FB6E:B81C:2AC0 (talk) 21:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sorry for the confusion. In formal documents, it is customary to refer to people by their last name. Melania Trump's last name is Trump. "Trump married Donald Trump" means that "[Melania] married Donald Trump."
Not done for now: If you believe it should be reworded for clarity, please reply with a specific request for the article, such as "change X to Y", verbatim. Otherwise, your request isn't likely to be accepted.
— Urro[talk][edits] ⋮ 21:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: Null edit request. It means the subject of the article married Donald Trump. Objective3000 (talk) 21:36, 11 February 2024‎ (UTC)[reply]

Grammar in "Life in the White House" is incorrect

In the first paragraph of "Life in the White House" it is stated that "In her first year, Melania gave only eight speeches, compared to 74 by Michelle Obama 'as' 42 by Laura Bush.". I believe "as" should be replaced with "and". Elliespaghellie (talk) 05:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for catching that! It's fixed now. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Nominator: Thebiguglyalien (talk · contribs) 07:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 02:08, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

  • ”Melania Trump (born Melanija Knavs;[a] April 26, 1970) is a Slovenian-American former model who served as the first lady of the United States from 2017 to 2021 as the wife of President Donald Trump.” That sentence might be a bit too long. Maybe “Melania Trump (born Melanija Knavs;[a] April 26, 1970) is a Slovenian-American former model who is the wife of President Donald Trump. As such, she was the first lady of the United States, serving from 2017 to 2021.”
  • ”She changed the spelling of her name to Melania Knauss” For conciseness, consider changing to “She changed her name to Melania Knauss”
  • ”They began dating, and she began adjusting to a more lavish lifestyle.” Maybe change to “They began dating, and she adopted a more lavish lifestyle.”
  • ”In the month leading up to the election, she was forced to respond to the Access Hollywood tape that had caused a scandal for her husband.” remove had
  • ”Her father Viktor Knavs first worked as a chauffeur, and he eventually sold car parts for a state-owned vehicle manufacturer as he made connections with the communist party.” Maybe changed to “Her father, Viktor Knavs, worked initially as a chauffeur before he began selling car parts for a state-owned vehicle manufacturer as he made connections with the communist party.” Might just be my personal preference though.
  • ”Her mother Amalija worked as a patternmaker at the children's clothing manufacturer Jutranjka in Sevnica.” Add Amalija‘s last name.
  • ”At the time, she had wanted to be a fashion designer rather than a model.” Remove had.

Referencing

  • I have done a spotcheck on 3 sources [3], [150], and [175]. Just a minor concern is reference 2, from the “Dolenjski list”, a reliable source?

Final comments

750h+ Given the scope and contentious nature of this article, it would probably be better if it were looked at by someone with a lot of experience nominating and reviewing at GAN. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, a second opinion has been added.  750h+ | Talk  00:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

I am new to this process. A few notes:

  • There is and she began adjusting to a more lavish lifestyle. [...] After encouraging Donald to run for president in the 2016 presidential election in the lead and Melania was the one who finally convinced Donald to campaign for president in the 2016 presidential election, telling him that he either needed to do it or stop talking about it. in the body. -- By my reading (of the surrounding content as well) this second statement could be interpreted in a more negative way, and probably wasn't "encouragement".
  • There are "story elements" in the article like:
    • The campaign longed to get Melania more active, as she was in a unique position to humanize Donald and to appeal to the American Dream from an immigrant's perspective.
    • Melania Trump was involved in the vice presidential selection process, meeting with the top contenders, and her approval of Mike Pence contributed to his selection. The deciding factor, in her mind, was that Pence was not as ambitious as the other contenders and would not seek to undermine Donald. (This one seems to be overstating things—not that I am at all sure.)
    • No one in the Trump campaign had previewed the speech, when political campaigns typically have several people scrutinize such a speech. (This probably should be attached to a name, and cannot be said in Wikipedia's voice (because the nature of the info is unreliable)) ... It also contradicts mildly with the following was a misunderstanding.
    • An anonymous person who was with Donald when the news broke reported that "red was coming up his neck to his ears". An anonymous person should not be quoted.
    • angry that he may have ended his candidacy with his comments this is spin (implying support, where it cannot be stated as fact)
    • Those around Melania noticed that she was generally happier by mid-2018. By this time, she had reached a more advantageous marital agreement that ensured Barron would be given a fair inheritance. This sentence implies things that should be either an attributed accusation or struck out as BLP violations.
    • and he valued her loyalty as she did not seek public attention of her own another implication here that I am not sure about, attribution to Jordan seems due
    • For her final months in the White House, she stopped visiting her office in the East Wing, instead staying in the White House residence dressed in terrycloth bathrobes. huh?
    • Also, her not being involved in the 2024 election is a single sentence, when her involvement in the 2016 election was covered quite extensively. The subject is probably terribly political, but a single sentence and no mention of there being *whatever it can be described as neutrally* seems too short.

Anyway, not a review, as I don't feel I can judge the topic with enough authority. ~ JackTheSecond (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Views on Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories

Can a new section be added about her birther views. 88.97.108.45 (talk) 17:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the Obama-related hoax? We would need reliable sources saying that she believes it. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having read the sources used in this article, this isn't something that's given meaningful coverage in biographies about her. Even if it's verifiable, it would likely be a minor aspect that's more appropriate for Donald's article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pussy

I wonder what the editors were thinking when they claimed "pussy" means vagina?? ("grab them by the pussy - with pussy being slang for vagina") Only the anatomically clueless could believe that grabbing a woman "by her vagina" wouldn't result in serious injury. A quick search online shows the term is slang for (among other things) vulva or vagina and the editors made a pretty egregious blunder. Or perhaps their references did? I didn't track them down, because it is obviously wrong. I don't agree that anatomically pussy only refers to vulva or vagina. I've heard it used to refer to the female groin, crotch, and even pubic mound - as well as the vulva and vagina. I'd politely suggest if an editor doesn't know which part can be "grabbed" then HE (obviously a he) should refrain from editing that section. I do think that it's possible that Trump meant "grope" and used the more neutral term, grab, for that. What he meant exactly can't be known based on the tape. Certainly, it was intended to demean these women and it seems clear he was implying such an assault wouldn't be objected to.98.21.68.176 (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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