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On 14 February 2011, David Miscavige was linked from Slashdot, a high-traffic website. (Traffic)

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On 1 December 2009, David Miscavige was linked from Slashdot, a high-traffic website. (Traffic)

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Evasion of service

Is it worth mentioning in the article that Miscavige has for some reason been evading service for the human trafficking lawsuit between April and September 2022 (Scientology staff members telling process servers that "he doesn't work here and doesn't live here" at whatever building at which they try to find him)? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 20:46, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where has this been reported? —C.Fred (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done Yes, it's worth mentioning in the relevant section. Cambial — foliar❧ 13:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Change David Miscavige’s title from “Cleric” to “Cult Leader” 2607:FEA8:86A1:EE00:C96C:4D:4AFE:2E16 (talk) 23:24, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question: The word 'cleric' appears nowhere in the article, and the page is already listed under Category:Cult leaders. What do you want changed? Tollens (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Height of David Miscavige

Height is irrelevant information to include in the infobox. This is not normal. Boomer tomb (talk) 03:11, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The height was removed at 21:26 UTC on December 27, 2023. Boomer tomb (talk) 01:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weirdness about the archives of this page

Why is archive 4 from 2014 to 2021, and archive 5 from 2017 to 2018? They shouldn't overlap. They should be in chronological order. Boomer tomb (talk) 03:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the edit history, a user manually created Archive 5 on 21:33, 23 August 2018 but didn't update the archive page counter from 4 to 5, so newer bot-archived threads have been going into #4. I moved the archive-5 threads into archive-4 in their correct order, blanked archive-5 and requested it be speedy-deleted. Further archives should now get added to the end of archive-4. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 11:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Titles

@Grorp: I just crossed-checked the references for "Captain of the Sea Org":

Amy Scobee's book does not say this at all.
Janet Reitman's book makes the statement but does not reference anything.

"C.O.B." (from Westbrook's book) is the only one that we can really be sure of. I'd prefer to prioritize academic sources such as Westbrook's book; these types of sources fit better with Wikipedia's NPOV and RS guidelines.

Since we can't agree on what Miscavige's currently used titles actually are, I'd suggest writing about this in a section below after sufficient research is done, but not in the introductory paragraph since it's contested. We're not even sure about whether the sources are backed by sufficient research.

Per MOS:LEAD, we are supposed to provide an accessible overview of the topic. If we have doubts about WP:V or WP:POV, then that shouldn't go in the lead section.

As a result, I've decided to put just "C.O.B." in the lead section for now. Please make discussions in the talk page, and I'm sure we can work together to improve this article.

Thanks for your work on Scientology articles by the way. I'm not opposing your edits per se, but am simply suggesting that we should collaborate in talk pages rather than making unexplained edits and reverts without discussing the reasons behind them. DjembeDrums (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]