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Worlds oldest living person
i think everyone who has had this title should at least have a page misao okawa had significant coverage from lots of news sources Wwew345t (talk) 21:38, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- First of all, writing in E. E. Cummings style is unhelpful for communication. Secondly, on what basis do you disagree with the outcome of that AfD? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:02, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Well most of your afds were based on "just because your old you arent notable" while that makes sense for serval articles misao okawa was the oldest living person for almost 2 years and got significant coverage by the media for it most of the other recent worlds oldest people titleholders have pages including mrs okawas two of mrs okaws immediate successors (Susannah myshatt jones and Jerlean talley) Wwew345t (talk) 14:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just because someone kept breathing doesn't mean anyone cared. Where are the sources about Okawa that provide any meaningful coverage of her life? All we could find were things basically saying "she still has a pulse", and then when she died say "she had a pulse and now doesn't". If there's something more in-depth I'd be happy to see it, despite my signature I don't speak any meaningful amount of Japanese so I know I'm starting from behind. Give us some links. And I'm also a bit leery of calling then "title holders" and similar, for reasons someone laid here many years ago. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- "So what if she lived long who cares?" That's a terrible argument all you have to do is search her up and you'll see tons of corvgare of her death and recongization as worlds oldest person clearly people care about longevity otherwise it woudlnt be picked up by lots of news soruces just because you don't care doesnt mean no one else does 2603:7080:393C:DD00:FC0A:37CE:7105:C53F (talk) 17:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Didnt realize I got logged out but I look back at t he se adds and I see the same 4 people on them seems like you dogpiled on longevity arcitles with other editors and you've gotten called out on that serval times it seems when you were doing that Wwew345t (talk) 17:31, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- If you even bother to do a standard Google search youd see that there are more then 10 pages of news sources covering her the argument that "longevity does not equal notability" is a opinion at best and should not have even been considered as actual reason for deletion Wwew345t (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- So post a few of those links here, then we can assess them. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Here are a few for Misao:
- 1. BBC, 2. NPR, 3.Live Science (less well known, but rated Green by newsguard according to wikipedia), 4. The Guardian, 5. WSJ EytanMelech (talk) 23:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- exactly this page was just many of a well intentioned but extremely misguided "clean up" done a few years back but instead of cleaing the category up all it achieved was the almost complete annihilation of the topic via flooding the loga with AFDS in which the same 3 people rehashed the same argument again and again withought bothering to even look if what they are saying makes any sense I also notice that if someone comes up with a semi competent argument the afd falls flat on its face which kinda shows how pointless this "cleanup" (a better word would be completle massacre of the topic) misao okawa is more relevant then most articles he will ever be plain and simple Wwew345t (talk) 01:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- To prevent premature nuking by anyone I have established a draft article for her with 14 different RS to prove a point. It should remain in draftspace at least until other outgoing AfDs on supercentenarians such as Berg and Francis have been resolved. EytanMelech (talk) 01:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- There are tons of old and really flimsy argued afds that were done in 2018 btw Wwew345t (talk) 22:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I hope to help reform that mess Wwew345t (talk) 22:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- There are tons of old and really flimsy argued afds that were done in 2018 btw Wwew345t (talk) 22:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- To prevent premature nuking by anyone I have established a draft article for her with 14 different RS to prove a point. It should remain in draftspace at least until other outgoing AfDs on supercentenarians such as Berg and Francis have been resolved. EytanMelech (talk) 01:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- exactly this page was just many of a well intentioned but extremely misguided "clean up" done a few years back but instead of cleaing the category up all it achieved was the almost complete annihilation of the topic via flooding the loga with AFDS in which the same 3 people rehashed the same argument again and again withought bothering to even look if what they are saying makes any sense I also notice that if someone comes up with a semi competent argument the afd falls flat on its face which kinda shows how pointless this "cleanup" (a better word would be completle massacre of the topic) misao okawa is more relevant then most articles he will ever be plain and simple Wwew345t (talk) 01:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- So post a few of those links here, then we can assess them. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- If you even bother to do a standard Google search youd see that there are more then 10 pages of news sources covering her the argument that "longevity does not equal notability" is a opinion at best and should not have even been considered as actual reason for deletion Wwew345t (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Didnt realize I got logged out but I look back at t he se adds and I see the same 4 people on them seems like you dogpiled on longevity arcitles with other editors and you've gotten called out on that serval times it seems when you were doing that Wwew345t (talk) 17:31, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- "So what if she lived long who cares?" That's a terrible argument all you have to do is search her up and you'll see tons of corvgare of her death and recongization as worlds oldest person clearly people care about longevity otherwise it woudlnt be picked up by lots of news soruces just because you don't care doesnt mean no one else does 2603:7080:393C:DD00:FC0A:37CE:7105:C53F (talk) 17:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just because someone kept breathing doesn't mean anyone cared. Where are the sources about Okawa that provide any meaningful coverage of her life? All we could find were things basically saying "she still has a pulse", and then when she died say "she had a pulse and now doesn't". If there's something more in-depth I'd be happy to see it, despite my signature I don't speak any meaningful amount of Japanese so I know I'm starting from behind. Give us some links. And I'm also a bit leery of calling then "title holders" and similar, for reasons someone laid here many years ago. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Well most of your afds were based on "just because your old you arent notable" while that makes sense for serval articles misao okawa was the oldest living person for almost 2 years and got significant coverage by the media for it most of the other recent worlds oldest people titleholders have pages including mrs okawas two of mrs okaws immediate successors (Susannah myshatt jones and Jerlean talley) Wwew345t (talk) 14:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Related discussion is ongoing at Talk:List of British supercentenarians. --Randykitty (talk) 08:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
How old is too young?
What is the minimum age requirement for an article to be part of longevity? Roasted (talk) 13:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
How to live till 100
About health advice from (super)centenarians: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/24/health/long-life-advice-centenarian-partner-content-wellness/index.html --Randykitty (talk) 09:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)