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GFLOPs in Simplified Model B Changelog

What is the source of the GFLOP values in the Simplified Model B Changelog table? I would suggest that this should be cited.

Raspberry Pi Pico in the Comparison Chart

Should the Raspberry Pi Pico really be compared with the other Raspberry Pis?

The Raspberry Pi Pico is really different from the rest of the Raspberry Pis, and is much more like a microcontroller than the others. I'm not sure if comparing them in the same chart makes sense (and I believe that chart is already too long). Stevenruidigao (talk) 03:24, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Although I feel similarly, unfortunately the people running the Raspberry Pi foundation decided to confusingly name the Pico as a "Raspberry Pi", even though the RP2040 is more technically a microcontroller, while the rest of the Raspberries are more technically general purpose computers. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 03:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually like having it in the list because occasionally I want to decide if a PICO is good enough or even better (because benefits from programmed IO state machines) for a simple task or a ZERO is needed or better (for ethernet and full unix). Was actually signing up today because all Raspi Pi versions table was incomplete for PICO not showing any IO beyond "a UART" - no mentioning of 2nd UART, I2C, SPI, PWM, ADC, PIO and USB1.1 (however dedicated USB2 and USB3 columns exist). Although RP2040 page shows all details, being able to side-by-side compare PICO, ZERO and perhaps even compute module under Raspberry PI would be nice to have. Andre Postoluck (talk) 00:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raspberry Pi do more than SBCs

Raspberry Pi don't just develop SBCs: this has been true since they started work on their first Compute Module, which was released in April 2014. Compute Module products fall into the SoM category, or System on Module, and are described as being targeted at the deeply embedded market.

Additionally, in January 2021, Raspberry Pi released the RP2040 microcontroller chip, also known as RP2, which they developed. The ecosystem around this is described as being microcontroller-based.

Subsequent chips bearing the Raspberry Pi name include the RP3 and RP1. The RP3 is a Broadcom Application Processor (AP) together with a Micron SDRAM chip in a Raspberry Pi package. The RP1 chip is an I/O controller hub developed by Raspberry Pi.

To summarise, there are now 3 product lines, only one of which is covered adequately in the current page:

Single Board Computers (SBCs)
System on Module devices for the deeply embedded market
Microcontrollers, again aimed at deeply embedded systems

[and possibly 4. Silicon IP and chips for SBCs, namely the rpivid H.265 decoded in BCM2711 and BCM2712, and the RP1 I/O controller, also known as a 'south bridge'].

I would therefore propose changing the initial focus of the page from the SBC range, to the company itself. That way, discussion of the other devices could be more logically accommodated. Note that as of 2013 Raspberry Pi consists of two entities - the trading company, and the foundation. It is the trading company which develops and supports all of their products. The foundation is described as being 'platform agnostic' - i.e. it operates to further its charitably goals independently of the development and sale of Raspberry Pi products. It therefore follows that the focus of this page would be the trading company and its activities, there already being a specific page for the Raspberry Pi Foundation. Discuss. Andrewk7 (talk) 22:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The business entities are covered at Raspberry Pi Foundation, a separate article. This article should remain focused on the main product, the SBC. MrOllie (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It already includes non-SBC products. Are you suggesting removal of these? Andrewk7 (talk) 23:58, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Operating Systems for Raspberry Pi

This article omits important information wrt availability of operating systems (OS) for the Raspberry Pi. A cursory read of the article revealed the following omissions:

Real Time Operating Systems: FreeRTOS, Zephyr, and ChibiOS/RT are available and supported for the Raspberry Pi

Debian: Given that Raspberry Pi OS (nee Raspbian) is based on Debian, this is a MAJOR omission. Debian has offered image files suitable for direct transfer to an SD card for some time.

In other words: Users are not limited to using software supplied by Raspberry Pi to operate their hardware. The proprietary nature of the firmware however remains a stumbling block for true "Open Source Computing" .

19:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC) Seamusdemora (talk) 19:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are countless Operating Systems that can be made to run on the Raspberry Pi. However, that's not a threshhold for inclusion. For example, FreeRTOS, has no out-of-the-box option for installing on the RPI. The Pi really isn't a suitable platform for real-time OSes.

The article already has a section dedicated to available operating systems and provides a long list of them - and it also clearly identifies that Raspbian is based on Debian.

If you can find secondary sources that suggest that the OSes you've listed are directly installable on the RPI and suitable choices for it, then by all means add them. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 21:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]