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Some baklava for you!

Hi Abhay Tiwari subh.vokk (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Barbie Real World map controversy

Could you come to the Barbie (film) article and look into the #Nine-dash line controversy section? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 08:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It looked OK to me. do you have a specific concern? Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't know. I just wanted you to check if there's any bias or error in phrasing, quotation, etc.. JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 10:48, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A beer for you!

Enjoy Denisarona (talk) 08:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A bit early in my day -- I just finished breakfast. I'll enjoy it later. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Date sensitive information

Would this work [6]? Vacosea (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. An editor with source-supported updated info could notice this and update it easily, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:16, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wilkins Coffee moved to draftspace

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The redirect Full Metal Jacket should redirect to the disambiguation page. Existing links in articles needs to be changed. Blockhaj (talk) 12:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why we are going back and forth about this, but here's what appears to have happened; see here:
  1. You created a new redirect named Full Metal Jacket redirecting to the Full Metal Jacket (movie) article
  2. You then changed the redirect target to Full metal jacket [7]
  3. I reverted that [8]
  4. You unreverted back to the error [9]
  5. I un-unreverted [10]
Wikilink references in various WP articles are a separate issue. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 12:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What error? I moved the article "Full Metal Jacket" to "Full Metal Jacket (movie)" so that page name can be redirected to the disambiguation page full metal jacket, which covers both spellings. Previously the movie article sat at "Full Metal Jacket" with "full metal jacket" redirecting to it. That is erronous since the name can refer to several things, especially the ammunition from which the movie got its name. Blockhaj (talk) 13:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Blockhaj, besides the above, the move was undiscussed. You broke many many links with the move. Please establish consensus with a requested move discussion. older ≠ wiser 15:48, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this needs to be worked out by editorial consensus. I took a quick look at how the articles are currently disambiguated and it looks OK to me except that I would add
For other uses of the term full metal jacket in various capitalizations, see Full metal jacket (disambiguation).
to the Full Metal Jacket Diary article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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CS1 error on Philippine Military Academy

Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Philippine Military Academy, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

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Checked. I just ref-ized a source citation already present, assuming good faith. It may or may not be verifiable, but I am not able to check that. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:44, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish-American War

Hi, I'm Hannahlouise5678 (talk) 11:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC). In the article - The Spanish-American War, you marked a citation as FV in the section - 'aftermath in acquired territories.' I've just double-checked the reference and quote, and it is referenced correctly.[reply]

Also, in your comment you mentioned POV OR, would you be able to comment further on which aspects of the edit that refers to, I would like to alter the section if it doesn't have neutrality. Thank you! Hannahlouise5678 (talk) 11:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for pointing that out. Placing the fv tag was a clear error on my part; I've removed it. I had checked the source and I don't know how I missed seeing that the snippet quoted is in there. That quote states a 2008 characterization by the author of the source cited, Sam Erman. I don't recognize that name, but I'm not an academic. In any case, I don't know if his characterization is reliable enough to support framing it as fact that those words marked the legislation mentioned. That sort of thing is common in WP, but it seems POVish and ORish to me. I didn't do any research on this, but I suspect that there might be other published sources of comparable reliability and significance but with with differing viewpoints. Perhaps a bit of research is in order in the interests of WP:DUE. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 13:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rewording that fails logic

Hi Wtmichell, see if you agree with my edit here. I believe your wording here was clear and corresponds to the intent of the statement. It was changed here, now it makes no sense as legality is a state of. Wjereas laws make provision for penalties, the legality of an act can at most make references to such attendant penalties. [FWIIW, the account that made the change is blocked for disruptive editing] Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 10:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with that. Thanks for asking. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Wilkins Coffee

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List of sovereign states by date of formation

As you can see in my edits, the "clarifying quotation" was retained in both cites as seen here The sovereignty of a State is co-extensive with its territorial limits — and here (quotation retained). What you did was introduce a citation error back into the article seen here (that I had fixed}, and duplicated the same ref again as seen here - ref 19 and here - ref 108 (that I had fixed} (with the same quotation you claimed I removed). In the future, please be more careful when reverting valid edits. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 23:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I walked thru the versions.
  • This one had a maint/error reading harvnb error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFBautista2009.
  • In this one, you cleaned that up by re-using another cite.

I: clearly missed seeing that the quote at issue was present in the re-used cite. My error. However, on taking this fresh look at this, I question the appropriateness of that quotation in a citation asserting (in the other ref to that cite) that the date of the latest territorial change of the Philippines was 2012. Offhand, I think not -- but that is an entirely separate issue. I may bring that up separately on the article talk page. Thank you for your cleanup work, and I apologize for havig gotten in the way of that with a ham-handed edit. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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First Philippine Republic

I think i have sorted the First Philippine Republic formatting issue now, by moving the notelist out of the List of cabinets of the Philippines article. Can you see if it affects any other related articles? Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any other articles are involved. I introduced all this complication long ago in an attempt to avoid having two separately-maintained tables that could bbe counted on to get out of sync. It's been a headache ever since. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
there are different ways to transclude sections, and they appear all the time on soccer tournament articles to maintain information to be in sync. Transclusion is my friend ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of cabinets of the Philippines sandbox

Hello, did you intend List of cabinets of the Philippines sandbox to be created in main space? Wikishovel (talk) 04:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no. my error. I'll remove it. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Territories of the United States

Re: the text "granted independence on July 4, 1946 by the Treaty of Manila", MOS:YEAR shows that for mdy-formatted dates like involved here, "A comma follows the year unless other punctuation obviates it." AWB typos correct this accordingly, and anyone using AWB to fix typos will come across this and fix it again. To be clear, I'm not blaming AWB - I'm saying AWB is correct per guidelines and I take responsibility for the correct typo fix I made with it. This is not a big deal for the time-being, but I hope you will revert the revert. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 16:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviving the PH history taskforce

Hey! I noticed that you've been active in editing some Philippine history related articles. I'm currently trying to gauge interest in reviving the old PH history taskforce and would like to invite you if you're interested. What do you think? Cheers NyanThousand (talk) 08:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. That is a major topical interest area for me, with focus on the 1896-1946 time period. I'm not currently interested in the mechanics of administrating or managing a task force, but please keep me in the loop. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reference style

Just noted your recent clean up of Paracel Islands references into Havard style. Are you using the Havardb template rather than the more concise sfnp template (which I have never used myself but does same thing) because article style started using ref entities ? Just asking as someone more interest in geology than history and I know how to use sfn and efn correctly in a new article which most do not, and do not want to use sfn template shorthand wrongly. ChaseKiwi (talk) 19:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To answer your question directly -- yes; harv style shortened footnotes predate rp and sfnp in this article
WP generally tries to make life easy for users who use it as a resource. As a WP editor, I try to keep that in mind. Inconsistency in citation styles within an article introduces needless difficulties for users. I should probably have replaced the {{sfnp}}s with {{sfn}}s using the optional p= parameter, but I'm comfortable with {{harvnb}} and used that by habit. See here -- please do take a look at it.
Without trying to describe how it came to be this way, I'll note that inline parenthetical referencing was used early on in WP and became deprecated in favor of shortened footnotes. However. the {{rp}} template, which presents pageno information for a footnoted cite inline rather than in the footnote, survived that deprecation. At some point, {{sfn}} appeared. To an editor, sfn looks like harvnb except that it doesn't need to be wrapped in a Ref. Some time later, {{sfnp}} appeared, uses the inline style of rp to present the pageno info.Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As is apparent from my strikeouts above, I misunderstood sfnp -- I thought that I had looked at how one instance was rendered and seen the pageno inline in rp style. Apparently, my deconstructing the snmps into Ref'd harvnbs was not needed. I don't think it's a problem as it is now, so I won't change it back. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, although I believe snf and snfp substute the call to harvnb for quicker load times. ChaseKiwi (talk) 03:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you get to read Tonnesson which I have tried to send you ChaseKiwi (talk) 01:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Verification doi

I have now investigated as far as possible for me lack of doi that you discovered at Territorial disputes in the South China Sea at Agusman article. The paper in the journal website is definite and the author seems to be a lawyer high up in Indonesian Foreign Ministry as well as holding academic posts so its not really an uncontaminated secondary source but could have been written and published with an eye of getting Indonesia's evolving position in print. I found an apparent pre-print of the article as well as the accepted version with minor content changes. I have also identified at least one other recent paper in journal where doi reported and not assigned example. Not sure how long is reasonable to wait for doi to be registered so not sure if best to remove the doi and add access-date to the url instead. ChaseKiwi (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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