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August 4, 2007WikiProject A-class reviewNot approved

Grammar error that need fixing

The sentence:

“For Helvidius, would be full siblings of Jesus, born to Mary and Joseph after the firstborn Jesus.”

is missing the word “those” after the first comma. 98.144.128.56 (talk) 17:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it. You're right. Thanks! Rafaelosornio (talk) 10:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2024

Typo in "Names and Titles" section. Please change "BMV" to "BVM" ((Blessed Virgin Mary)) Gleitzeit (talk) 23:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 23:17, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2024

Sentence "She is a central figure of Christianity" should be changed to "She is an important figure of Christianity". While not entirely wrong, the current version may be misleading – central figure of Christianity is Jesus, obviously. Arateniz (talk) 07:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Left guide (talk) 09:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2024

Mary name was changed in the letter centuries 103.244.240.97 (talk) 06:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Remsense 06:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biographical Information

Like all other real historical persons, "Mary, the mother of Jesus" should have a biographical section which states her date of birth and death, as any other real historical person. And if no, there should be a section on any history or controversy about this. 2601:18F:E80:894B:612E:BF10:BF5C:2EA4 (talk) 12:32, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no "controversy" - we just don't know either (as with many people who lived this long ago). Johnbod (talk) 12:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mary's age when giving birth to Jesus

@Sinclairian you have reverted both of my edits which suggest that Mary was 16 when giving birth to Jesus, the problem with your reverts is that you didn't change the citation in any way you just kept it the way it was before the edit. The Citation was: "According to the the apocryphal Gospel of James, Mary was approximately 13–14 years old when giving birth to Jesus.", this is wrong and I cited that in my edit and quoted that she was 16 when having Jesus as it says in chapter 12 of the Gospel of James: "And she remained three months with Elizabeth; and day by day she grew bigger. And Mary being afraid, went away to her own house, and hid herself from the sons of Israel. And she was sixteen years old when these mysteries happened." [1] In fact the citation had this article: [2] which doesn't say that according to the Gospel of James she was 14 but according to other apocryphal writings, however that same source says this about them: It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. The same source the citation uses says the apocryphal writings which state that Mary was 14 here are unreliable so they shouldn't be used to know Mary's age when giving birth to Jesus. The second problem here is that if she really was 14 why did Luke the Evangelist call her a woman in Luke 1:42? The Third problem here is that the citation also uses the Jewish customs surrounding marriage at the time, however Michael Satlow states that In Palestine, men married at around thirty to women who were ten or fifteen years younger.[3] So the age of consummation would be 15 to 20 years old so its very possible using this that Mary would be 16 at the Annunciation. Olek Novy (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]