Wikipedia:Requested moves
Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontroversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.
Page moves requested on this page may be actioned if there is a rough consensus supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator.
- If you want to merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
- This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.
Instructions
What to do on the talk page
- Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:
- {{move|new name}}
- replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article. This produces the following text on the page where you inserted it:
This template must be substituted. Replace {{Requested move ...}} with {{subst:Requested move ...}}.
To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.
What to do on this Requested moves page
To aid the administrators, add a line with the days date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.
- ===[[date]] [[year]]===
Requests added to "Requested move" a page should have the following format:
For a single page move to a new name add a line at the top of the section under the date line:
* [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~
For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.
Notices
- Please add new notices to the top of this section.
- Talk: Public Broadcasting Service - Public Broadcasting Service → PBS because I feel sure this is the way the network has been known as by most Americans within the past 20 years. Georgia guy 22:18, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk page / Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis → Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis ::EdwinHJ | Talk 22:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Liberal Party (Denmark) – Liberal Party (Denmark) → Left (Denmark) {accurate translation of Danish name} — Soman 17:04, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Liberals for Forests → liberals for forests – {The official name is in lowercase.} — matturn 16:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Liberals for forests → liberals for forests – {The official name is in lowercase.} — matturn 16:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC) Note that merging will have to take place. The second article is more detailed (and yes, authored by me.) - matturn 16:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Image talk:Model.png – Image:Model.png → Image:Kalman_filter_model.png - it's much too general a name as it is. I'm the image creator. — ciphergoth 17:00, 2005 Apr 17 (UTC)
- Chicago, Illinois → Chicago, following most common usage. Dralwik 15:22, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Bihar → Bihar (disambiguation), and Bihar (India) → Bihar. This is in line with Wikipedia policy on primary usage of terms, and also brings the article on this Indian state into line with all the others. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- This seems to have been done some time ago, but someone has been trying to fork Bihar over the redirect at Bihar (India) and blank Bihar (disambiguation). I've reverse this vandalism and protected the redirect. Nothing to stop someone discussing moving in the other way (to move Bihar back to Bihar (India) and Bihar (disambiguation) to Bihar) --Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:18, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Jordan College, Oxford &ndash Jordan College, Oxford → Jordan College More common reference. Fictional places expressly need not (and I think for the sake of clarity, should not) use the same naming conventions as their real counterparts. Alai 06:49, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Armed force – Armed force → Armed forces – An armed force is any group of people acting together, with weapons. But this article is about the armed forces (or the Armed Forces), a country's national military organization. —Michael Z. 2005-04-17 00:16 Z
- Durable Good → Durable good following naming conventions. Gazpacho 21:36, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:K-9 – K-9 → K9 – on the model of most other letter-number combination dis-ambiguation pages. Georgia guy 15:45, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Winstrol – Winstrol → Stanozolol – In accordance with the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Drugs naming policy, the drug should be referred to by it's IIN. --Defsac 14:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Macintosh Quadra 575 – Macintosh Quadra 575 → Macintosh LC 575 – Doing the Wikipedia:Google test, I found that "LC 575" brought the most hits out of the three names of the computer (LC 575, Performa 575, and Quadra 575). --KelisFan2K5 14:11, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Sakura – Sakura → Cherry_blossom – {What is "sakura"? "Cherry blossom" is already a redirect to "Cherry" so I believe this move requires adminstrator help.} — --Outis 07:26, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Terfenol → Terfenol-D. Yet another cut and paste move repair. (Is there a better place to be putting these?) —Korath (Talk) 00:17, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Theory of Cognitive development – Theory of Cognitive development → Theory of cognitive development – {Content has been merged into the former page, but the latter is a better title} — Matt 00:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:X2 (disambiguation) - X2 → X2 (movie) and X2 (disambiguation) → X2 - On the model of X1 and X3, which have dis-ambiguation pages at the respective titles. Georgia guy 20:36, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Al Wolters Hi! Is it possible to move the Al Wolters article to Albert M. Wolters please? I couldn't do it using the move facility as there is already an entry under Albert M. Wolters. Once it is moved I can then combine the two articles. Thanks, Steve Bish 15 April 2005
- The information at "Albert M. Wolters" was a stub. I copied it to "Talk:Al Wolters" and made "Albert M. Wolters" a redirect to "Al Wolters". Philip Baird Shearer 17:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:5-5-5 – 5-5-5 → 555 telephone number – the original title is bad, but the move must be done by admin because I already started a duplicate article at the logical destination (because I didn't find the original article. because the original title is bad...). — Chinasaur 03:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Cantonese (linguistics) -- User:Yuje/drafts/Written_Cantonese -> Written Cantonese. The current page is a redirect, and I want to move my draft, along with the entire history to the page. --Yuje 01:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Elephant Talk (newsletter) -> Elephant Talk. I want "Elephant Talk" to take you the new article about the newsletter (instead of redirecting to Elephant Talk (single)), because people are more likely to be looking for the newsletter than the obscure single release. --Discipline 17:12, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Bright Eyes — Bright Eyes (band) → Bright Eyes. I moved "Bright Eyes" (a disambig page) to "Bright Eyes (disambiguation)", because the vast majority of links to the disambig page were referring to the band. --Tothebarricades.tk 19:24, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Tony LaRussa – Tony LaRussa → Tony La Russa – {Name misspelled; La Russa has a space in the middle; often confused with parallel baseball manager Tommy Lasorda, whose name has no space after the "La"} — Coll7 17:48, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) → Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The page that was moved to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) needs to be moved back to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The fairy tale that Walt Disney's film originates from is simply titled Snow White (there are two fairy tales; both are mentioned in the article), not Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I am already working to get moderator assistance to do this. --FuriousFreddy 14:18, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:
Poland's Reconstuction Movemen→ Poland's Reconstruction Movement. Simple cut and paste move repair. —Korath (Talk) 03:27, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)- The page was moved to Ruch Odbudowy Polski (already pre-linked by several pages); the former name is listed at WP:RFD. DmitryKo 19:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk: Dong (currency) - Dong (currency) → Vietnamese dong EdwinHJ | Talk 17:27, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Non-sexist language – Non-sexist language → Gender-neutral language – I want the article to be titled with the more commonly used term (more than twice as many Google hits) and the less loaded/POV term — Blackcats 23:50, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Disney (disambiguation) - Disney (disambiguation) → Disney - Disney currently redirects to The Walt Disney Company; using it for disambiguation seems more appropriate. —tregoweth 23:11, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Template talk:Unknown – Template:Unknown → Template:No license – To clarify the usage of the template, and to maintain a consistant naming scheme. — BesigedB (talk) 16:40, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Fort Benning, Georgia -- Fort Benning, Georgia → Fort Benning — It's not a municipality, its a military base, therefore it is not apropos to have the state attached. It used to be that way, but somehow it got moved to Fort Benning, Texas (which needs to be deleted entirely because there is no such place). –radiojon 05:52, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
Voting time extended
Voting on the following move requests have been extended to allow for more votes. Please visit them and post your opinion.
- Talk:Dioscorus I of Alexandria – Dioscorus I of Alexandria → Dioscorus of Alexandria (needs more votes)
- Talk:Zürich – Zürich → Zurich (large, nearly even vote)
- Talk:Karkonosze – Karkonosze → Giant Mountains (needs more votes)
Procedure for admins
It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).
Major history
There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:
- The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined here. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (e.g. duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
- Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself). This process also works where edit histories cannot be merged because edit history compression prevents one page being deleted.
- Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)
Minor history
A minor history on the other hand contains no information, e.g. the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.
Tidying up
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.
When you remove an entry from this page (whether the move was accepted ot rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected.
It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.
Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.
Blocked history mergers
If block compression stops the required merge of a copy/paste move then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.
This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done when the issue is resolved.
Additional notes
A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page
To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over):
==Requested move== * the reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]] ::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> ===Discussion=== ::''Add any additional comments''
If an section called "Requested move" alreay exists on the talk page then expand the title to:
==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! -->
Multiple page moves
For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
For block moves:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
- ...
- page to be moved n to target page n
- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
An example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
- The Levellers to Levellers
- the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~
Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
- Second world to Second World and
- Third world to Third World
- This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~
Relevant policies and guidelines
PLEASE NOTE:
- Many moves can be accomplished by a registered user without administrator assistance by using the "Move this page" button.
- Requested moves is not the proper place to request renaming images or categories.
- To renamed category see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion:How to use this page point 5.
- To rename an image. re-upload the image with the name you want, change the links on the relevant pages then delete the old one with a request to Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion.
- It is also possible to ask an administrator to intervene directly see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and Wikipedia:Requests for sysop attention.
In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:
- Wikipedia:Naming conventions
- Wikipedia:Proper names
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style
- Wikipedia:Disambiguation
- Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
- Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers
- If a river page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Requested moves