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Vandalism part 34

Serge's 34th iteration of his own personal WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. Feel free to report anything you feel may need admin intervention. Sergecross73 msg me 00:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is one citation for the change I made: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starset/comments/1cixg4m/metalcore_starset_album/. There are multiple more citations. It is not vandalism. Do you have expertise in this band or music or why was this reversed? There was no justification. 173.59.8.222 (talk) 02:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reddit posts are not usable sources on Wikipedia per WP:USERG. Sergecross73 msg me 02:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, based on the editing patterns, I'm wondering if @125.160.112.170 might actually be blocked editor @JustYourImaginaryGuy. Not sure how to report this; I noticed you dealt with the latter editor before. RegalZ8790 (talk) 05:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I've blocked. Feel free to report incidents like this to me, and if I agree, I'll issue blocks or page protection as needed. Thank you! Sergecross73 msg me 13:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I figured this was okay, just wanted confirmation. Anyway, he's at it again, now with @125.160.115.29... RegalZ8790 (talk) 01:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 16:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sergecross73 Back for another round as @125.160.113.185. What can be done with an individual who has no intentions of respecting Wikipedia and its community? RegalZ8790 (talk) 06:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like someone else hit him with a WP:RANGEBLOCK. Hopefully that helps. Sergecross73 msg me 17:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, This user keeps reverting my changes saying they are vandalism. This IP traces back to the subject of the edits who has been using wikipedia to promote his own name, articles, and videos. He doesn't cite his work, he simply pastes it into other articles.

He has done this on the USNVGT page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_vs_Snakeand several others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/35.135.179.48

Surely this is against the terms. Thank you for looking into this. datagod (talk) 🍁 22:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding/restoring info without a source is definitely against policy. I don't know enough about these subjects to know who is correct in some of the disputes, nor am I following the accusations of self-promotion, but I'll warn them about the sourcing issues. Sergecross73 msg me 23:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These editors are definitely related, sharing similar usernames and making next to exactly the same changes. What do you recommend be done with the group of users? Should the article be protected based on this string of non-constructive edits? Panini! • 🥪 15:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Continuous block evasion and sockpuppeteering

Hi Sergecross73, hope thinks are going well with you. I've got a question, and you're usually my go-to admin for these kind of issues. For a month and half, there's been a person unnecessarily changing the leads of hip hop artists' articles. They mark all their edits as a minor one and occassionally leave unnecessary opinions in edit summaries. The main account is Maurice20111 (talk · contribs). Confirmed socks are WilliamNathan (talk · contribs), LeahAnderson2005 and Joseph231028 (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maurice20111/Archive). I'm also absolutely sure KingVonFan2011 (talk · contribs) is another (ANI'd, but to no avail). They also edited under changing IPs, such as Special:Contributions/2600:1007:A111:709:A1E0:9A8F:2DEC:4FD5, Special:Contributions/2600:1700:1BFB:5010:C965:9B83:9189:EB29 and Special:Contributions/2600:1007:A111:709:1CE4:C321:F5A9:7A49.

In my experience, sockpuppet investigations is too slow for continuous disruptive editing - there aren't any tools to do that quickly, but ANI didn't work last time. In your opinion, what's the best course of action here? It's not the worst kind of disruptive editing, but they do need to stop. Input is appreciated. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 19:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) For what it's worth, I have reverted multiple edits made by the sock. From where I sit, obvious WP:DUCK situation. JeffSpaceman (talk) 23:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. If you can indef KingVonFan2011 as an obvious sock in the meantime, I'd appreciate it.

Before I do anything - what was the result of the ANI case? Was there opposition to blocking/seeing them as a sock? Or did it just close due to inaction/indifference? Sergecross73 msg me 23:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Inaction I suppose? soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 03:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, just making sure there wasn't differing views on him being a sock. I've blocked him, as I see what you both are talking about here.
Sadly, your options are limited outside of SPI. You can find a friendly admin who can help with WP:DUCK blocks (me), or find a Check User who can run CU scans for you (not me - I don't have that access.) I have a pretty high tolerance for DUCK blocks for as long as it takes, but there will likely be times where I can't justify action too. Sergecross73 msg me 13:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your vigilance. If it's okay with you I'll send you a quick message if (when?) they return. So far they haven't changed their MO one bit, spotting them has been easy. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 20:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, no problem. I can do it for as long as you're motivated to spot and report them. My only request is that you don't get mad if I dont take action because I don't think there's enough evidence. (Not saying you would, I just say that to everyone.) Sergecross73 msg me 01:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That didn't take long: Leonard1245 (talk · contribs). One edit, but a) new account b) hip hop artist c) marking as minor d) same type of changing the lead. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 20:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, on KingVons talk page someone pointed out a IP range that was making similar edits too, so I'm not surprised. Leo has same target and naming convention for account too. Blocked. I'll start protecting repeated targets as well. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 21:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're back as Depeet1998 (talk · contribs). soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 15:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now back as this IP address. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 00:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking assistance with a case on WP:ANI

Hey there!

I'm thinking if you could you help have a look on this persistent deletion of content case? It's unbecoming with the repeated pattern of deletions by associated IP addresses. Appreciate your assist on this . Thanks hundenvonPG (talk) 02:27, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commented there, warned the editor too. Sergecross73 msg me 16:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Context

Hi my name is Marisoft69 and i want speak with you, I'm sorry for not including the source but it is due to an explanation all the news to get a source were in my native language Spanish or others other than English or some already seem like misinformation so I will have the explanation so that you and others can explain it to you, you just have to tell me the context and I will tell you, Goodbye Marisoft69 (talk) 02:22, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying or asking for here, but as I mentioned on your talk page, per WP:V, all content additions require a reliable source to verify that information. If you can't find a source to verify the information, do not add that information. If you can't follow this very basic rule, your account will be blocked from editing the English Wikipedia. Sergecross73 msg me 13:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)@Marisoft69: You may use Spanish-language sources if necessary. Non-English sources are much better than unsourced content. If you retrieved the information from a Spanish language news source, then please cite that source in your edits. Left guide (talk) 02:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Marisoft69 (talk) 05:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

The Music Barnstar
For your efforts in maintaining the order, neutrality, and integrity of the encyclopedia across Linkin Park-related articles in general, but especially the last few weeks while it's been a very busy topic area. Left guide (talk) 02:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I appreciate it. Same to you too - thanks for all your help around the website. Sergecross73 msg me 12:59, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

apologies

I didn't get very good sleep last night and my response on my talk page was less than civil. Someone's mowing the lawn now so I won't sleep, hopefully coffee will help. Genuinely my intention was always for the content to be gradually reintroduced to the project with reliable sources and "manual of style" tone CatTits10 (talk) 15:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it. It's good to address unsourced information, but I just wanted to make you aware of some of the issues that can be caused when it's not addressed optimally. It often takes a while to get the right balance between blanking, tagging, or sourcing it yourself. Sergecross73 msg me 15:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

edit summary?

what's with that edit summary on Lower Than Atlantis? Yeah I agree its easy to find sources for stuff like chart positions but not when there are 72345312574 other unsourced statements in the article that I also need to keep track of. I'm trying to cover as much ground as I can. Sorry if I'm spread thin. I don't understand why everyone is coming at me instead of the people who introduced the unsourced claims in the first place hahaha.

If nothing else, I'm spacing out the content in the article and tagging the claims so I can assess them on a one-by-one basis once I get around to it.

Peace, CatTits10 (talk) 20:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Much like your excessive blanking, you're now excessively spamming CN tags on things that are extremely easily sourced. Why not just fix them as you see them? I don't understand the rush to tag them. You keep complaining about "spreading yourself too thin". Why are you treating editing an encyclopedia as a race? There is no deadline, and the things you're tagging aren't particularly contentious or controversial, it's all basic statements like "(X) was the name of their 2023 album" type stuff.
Please slow down and do a little bit of work well, then a lot of it sloppily. You'd make more of an impact that way, and wouldn't have to keep stopping to explain/defend yourself. Sergecross73 msg me 20:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But actually reading the sources takes a really long time though and I'm concerned I will accidentally add a source that doesn't have the info I need if I try skimming it, and yeah I know there's no deadline, but let's not lose track of the fact that I am doing chores on this project that should have been done two decades ago and I have a high sense of urgency to finish these projects, especially since I already went to the trouble to get rid of all the clutter. You keep saying to bring sources instead of deleting, but that is overwhelming considering the immense amount of WP:cruft present on some of these pages, I feel like I am sifting through a g*ddamn dumpster. It's a jungle in there, Serge.
Peace, CatTits10 (talk) 20:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know, I've been doing this for 15 years. You've got to pace yourself or it gets overwhelming. You've got to control yourself. Your sense of urgency is going to get you blocked, and then you won't be able to get anything done. Seriously, you've got to turn it around. I would not be surprised if you get temporarily blocked from the current ANI discussion going on. This is not a threat - I'm letting ANI largely handle this one - but rather an observation from someone who has seen this many times before. Wikipedia is a collaborative project - part of that is showing you're willing and able to work with others. Your responses there are coming off as confrontational and unwilling to change. That's not good. Sergecross73 msg me 20:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Redacted)
Trust me dude, I know what I'm doing. I may not have the level of experience you do, but I have a vision for these pages to have rich, valuable information with reliable sources and neutral tone. I'm going to try to chill out, but I'm just glad I've gotten these pages trimmed down to "ground zero" so they can actually be a viable project to work on. CatTits10 (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, let the record show I tried... Sergecross73 msg me 21:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:STRIKE. When it's a comment people have read and responded to, it's generally preferred you strike comment(s) you'd like to retract, rather than delete it outright, which is prone to causing confusion... Sergecross73 msg me 02:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's actually what I was trying to do
Cheers, CatTits10 (talk) 04:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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