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Controversial Definitions Section

The "Controversial Definitions" section is supported by a single citation. That citation is a highly specialized, specific, and individualized point of view by a single Israeli Army general. In no way does this citation support even the notion of general "controversy" in the definition of "Terrorism." I'd like to begin a discussion about striking the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnadams11 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Causes section

"Ending perceived government oppression" can be changed to "Ending perceived government oppression (for example Suffragette bombing and arson campaign^[1].

References

^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:d591:5f10:316e:b09b:a12a:56ad (talk • contribs) 17:58, 17 July 2021 (UCT)

Combining "Historical background" and "History" section

To me, this is a no-brainer, but given the scope of the edit I thought it best to just gauge opinions. It seems the "Historical background" and "History" sections cover essentially the same information, so I propose we incorporate all the information in the "History" section into the "Historical background" section, retaining the latter subheading. Yr Enw (talk) 06:57, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (Summoned by bot) why is this an RfC? It doesn't seem from the question that there's been in any previous contention regarding this? If not then this is a waste of resources making an RfC about it. Just be bold and do it and come back if and when there is disagreement, or better yet just have a normal discussion first. TarnishedPath^talk 08:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. My hesitation was given how large a change it is to the structure of the article, but will follow your advice. Yr Enw (talk) 08:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Yr Enw I'd suggest removing the RfC template. If there's a revert have a discussion to see if you can come to consensus before thinking about an RfC again. TarnishedPath^talk 08:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Historical Background" section example request

Someone requested an example for the line:

"Most scholars[example needed] today trace the origins of the modern tactic of terrorism to the Jewish Sicarii Zealots who attacked Romans and Jews in 1st-century Palestine."

I can find mentions of this in the book "The History of Terrorism: From Antiquity to Al Qaeda" by G Chaliand, A Blin. This particular source seems to have a lot of credibility, and has also been widely cited, but I'm not sure about "most scholars". However, if only a particular example was required, then perhaps we should add a citation?

IsfahanKaAasmaan (talk) 21:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it was already cited. Ben Azura (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Famous terrorists" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Famous terrorists has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 22 § Famous terrorists until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 22:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Demographics of terrorism" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Hamas is anti-Zionistic, not anti Semitic.

under religious terrorism, the paragraph about Hamas says they are anti Semitic. however, they are anti-Zionistic. They are not the same thing. Bobkhan1234 (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arabs are are sometimes described as semitic. Is it that Hamas are opposed to the state of Israel, rather than hating the jewish people as a racial group? Isn't there a need for clarification here. Especially as Wikipedis defines "semitic" as an obsolete ethnic term. Does Hamas have any views on descendants of Jews for whom Palestine was their homeland? Rwood128 (talk) 12:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of Algeria?

The Algerian revolution was one of the first cases of the use of the term terrorism to justify the actions taken by the French military, to directly quote the article on the Algerian war "the mission of the French Army was "ensuring security", "maintaining order" and "pacification" (...) The FLN were referred to as "criminals", "bandits", "outlaws", "terrorists" and "fellagha"." The mention in this article as terrorism only being widely used after the 70s is highly misleading for this reason. I feel like this merits at least more than a passing mention. Hexifi (talk) 02:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Controversial Definitions

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What I think should be changed: This section should be deleted.
Why it should be changed: The conceit of this section is based in one article that does not remotely support what the section argues. The paragraph seeks to suggest some broad "controversy" over the definition of the term "terrorism." The single citation is a study of a single army general, and that particular general's struggle with the term. One person's point of view would not itself create "controversy" around a common definition. If there was perhaps a more scopey academic study with this thesis, then perhaps the view could be supported.
References supporting the possible change:^[1]

Johnadams11 (talk) 00:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. Please obtain consensus for your proposed edit. TarnishedPath^talk 09:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have sought to do this on this very page. Sadly, I don't think there's much interest here one way or the other. What is the process for these kinds of changes, on a page that doesn't seem to attract much interest? Johnadams11 (talk) 16:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Beres, Louis René (1997). "Law and Politics in Israel: What Terrorism Means for the IDF Commander". The Brown Journal of World Affairs. 4 (2): 257–276. ISSN 1080-0786.

Inconsistent Spelling?

I noticed the article uses the term "mujaheddin":

More recently, Ronald Reagan and others in the American administration frequently called the mujaheddin "freedom fighters" during the Soviet–Afghan War

This seems like a misspelling of Mujahideen, or at the very least it is distractingly inconsistent as the term Mujahideen is used elsewhere in the article. 212.139.35.185 (talk) 14:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]