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September 29

I need to remove my ip address

I didnt realize that my ip address would be published when I edited an article. I am a new user. Marvmish (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@Marvmish: see Wikipedia:Oversight/FAQ#How to request suppression for how to request that. TSventon (talk) 02:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Marvmish (talk) 02:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Proper capitalization for title of reference with capitalized by H1 tag.

I'm working on DECA (organization) and have been trying to track down when the Collegiate Division of DECA stopped being referred to as Delta Epsilon Chi. I walked my way through archive.org until I found https://web.archive.org/web/20100708034614/http://deca.org/news/14/ . Clearly a press release, I thought the title of the reference should be the header of the Press Release, shown on the page as DECA ANNOUNCES EXPANDED FOCUS AND PROGRAMS; NEW MISSION. However, when I did a copy/paste, it pasted as DECA announces expanded focus and programs; new mission . When I went to the source of the web page, it appears to be in all capital letters because it is in an <h1></h1> pairing. So should the title for the reference be in ALL CAPS or not? (And I'm coming to the help desk because I have *no* idea where else makes sense to ask?)Naraht (talk) 02:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Naraht there's normally no reason to look at the HTML of a web page that's a putative source for an article. Whatever the means by which the browser shows (shouts) "DECA ANNOUNCES EXPANDED FOCUS AND PROGRAMS; NEW MISSION", please ignore the shouty caps --just as you'd ignore the color if this weren't black, the typeface, centring, etc. Render it as either "DECA Announces Expanded Focus and Programs; New Mission" or (my preference by far) "DECA announces expanded focus and programs; new mission". Incidentally, the H1 tag does not capitalize in any browser I've encountered, though CSS may cause it to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 07:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

DAB link in infobox

I was attempting to disambiguate links to Flag of Amazonas, but in the two pages that have the DAB links, I cannot work out how the link is made. The pages are: Amazonas Province (Brazil) and Amazonas (Venezuelan state). In both cases, the link is in the caption ("Flag") for the flag image in the infobox. Is the link coming from metadata in the flag images used somehow? Or in the infobox template? Or something completely different? Any advice appreciated. AukusRuckus (talk) 03:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@AukusRuckus: The link is made by {{Infobox settlement}}. You can override the target for the link by setting the flag_link parameter. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Duplicate arguments in template calls

I added two categories within a userbox regarding two web browsers in this edit here. That resulted in Category:Wikipedians who use Waterfox being placed in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. But the other category added in the userbox Category:Wikipedians who use Mozilla Firefox does not end up in the duplicate argument category. I can't figure it out. What did I do wrong? Why are not both affected? Or is there anything wrong really? --Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden: I seem to have fixed it with this edit to Template:User Waterfox, another of the templates displayed on the category page. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@John of Reading: I just spotted it incognito and wrote a draft that it had been fixed, then your reply popped up here in my logged in window after I clicked edit source ;) The issue didn't come from the userbox I thought it was, but one I edited a couple of hours earlier. But I didn't see that hidden category about duplicate arguments until after my edit on Template:User Firefox and Waterfox, so I thought the issue came from my latest edit. Perhaps it took some hours before it was registered and showed up. Or I just didn't notice. I saw the duplicate arguments just now, and it all makes perfect sense. Also cool to learn that it is possible to wikilink to a diff. Thank you. --Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden (talk) 18:59, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:EARWIG

Seems to be having problems that perhaps will last awhile. Does anyone have a decent substitute to recommend? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Don't we have TurnItIn credits? I think that's the next best option, but no idea how to use it. I think there was a discussion a few months back about how AI requests are using up all of Earwig's API calls by the middle of the month, but I don't remember where, or if any action resulted. Folly Mox (talk) 17:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I think Turnitin is what animates Copypatrol. I don't know that we can use it for anything else. @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, if you uncheck "use search engine", earwig will still work pretty well (most people plagiarize pretty obviously, from the sources they place as references). -- asilvering (talk) 00:56, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Finding the correct tag

What's the tag({{}}) i need to enter if an article contain direct word to word copy-paste content from another article outside wiki? VihirLak007 (talk) 15:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Assuming the content comes from a website that is not Wikipedia, you can use {{cc-notice}} on the references section: {{Cc-notice|cc=[insert license here (0/by4/bysa4/...)]|url=[insert URL here]}} Try making sure the URL is a permanent link to a version of the page if it is part of an editable wiki. ObserveOwl (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

(Pinging VihirLak007.) ObserveOwl (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@VihirLak007 and ObserveOwl: if content is copy-pasted from another website, then generally that will be a copyright violation and the process at Wikipedia:Copyright violations should be followed. {{cc-notice}} should be used for material that has been copied into Wikipedia as permitted under a compatible Creative Commons license. TSventon (talk) 19:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

That's correct, thanks. I assumed they were talking about copying from other wikis. ObserveOwl (talk) 19:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Unable to Use Translation Tool on English Wikipedia

I'm trying to translate an article about the company where I work from the Spanish Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia. However, I receive the following message: "On the English Wikipedia this tool is limited to extended confirmed editors, and the machine translation component is disabled for all users." I have a registered account that is over 4 days old and has more than 10 edits, but I'm still unable to use the translation tool. Could someone please assist me in understanding how to gain the necessary permissions or suggest alternative methods for translating and creating the article? Thanks you. Sabilla27 (talk) 15:41, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sabilla27 as explained at WP:EXTENDED "A registered editor becomes extendedconfirmed automatically on edit after the account has existed for at least 30 days and has made at least 500 edits" although your account was created over 10 years ago, you only have 42 edits, far short of the 500 required.
As for alternate methods, firstly, I suggest you check your company meets the English Wikipedia requirements for companies, at WP:NCORP as these are more onerous than those on most other language Wikipedias. If you think your employer meets these then you need to make a Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure as you were advised in 2021.
I dislike most "auto-translate" methods, but you could copypaste into Word + translate that, correcting all the templates and references, and crediting the source as Spanish WP. - Arjayay (talk) 16:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Sabilla27. One of the reasons that the translation tool is often not useful for English Wikipedia, is that (as Arjayay said), English Wikipedia often has stricter requirements about notability and sourcing than other language versions. While I haven't looked at them closely (and my Spanish is limited), in my opinion the sources in es:Metricool are nowhere near adequate for an article in English Wikipedia - and if the sources are inadequate, any article will be inadequate, and therefore any translation of the Spanish article in its present form will be unacceptable.

Most of the sources (and all the sources that are to be used to establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria on notability) must meet all three of the conditions of being reliable, independent, and having significant coverage of the subject (see WP:42 for more detail). Only two of the references there (nos. 2 and 7) even might be acceptable - the rest are either not independent of Metricool, or are blogs.

Note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

Also, the article has external links, which are hardly ever allowed inside the text in English Wikipedia, except in citations.

I recommend you treat this as creating a new article - which is difficult for an inexperienced user, and much more difficult for a user with a conflict of interest such as yourself.

In summary:

• first of all , please read about paid editing, and make the mandatory formal declaration of your status as a paid editor.
• Then please read translation and your first article, and start a completely new draft by finding the sources you need. (They don't have to be in English, or online, but they have to be reliable, totally independent of Metricool, and having significant coverage of the company).

ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Iamge and caption not working in infobox

I need help. I uploaded an image for the Dexter episode Love American Style and the caption and image section just isn't working and I've tried so many different things but neither is showing and it is making me very irritated. Could you please tell me what is wrong or correct the situation? Thanks. 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 16:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi 1zdoqnrh5 - as it clearly states when you preview your edit (you do preview your edits, don't you?) "Warning: Love American Style (Dexter) (edit) is calling Template:Infobox television episode with more than one value for the "image" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used. (Help)" - so as it explained you needed to delete the second "image" parameter - which I have done, so it works. - Arjayay (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm still kind of new to this editing thing so admittedly I do not preview edits. But thank you for your help. 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 16:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Spider in my room (Canada)

There’s this yellow and brown spider I took a picture of it and it told me too look up American grass spider but it came up in the search a a rabid spider 🕷️ @Aerol Leason I just don’t know how too add the picture please and sorry and please and thank you Diamonds 0666 (talk) 16:22, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Not in the Help Desk's pervue - try asking at the WP:Reference Desk. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:32, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@Diamonds 0666: Try uploading it to INaturalist. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

We need an update on wikipedia pages about areas in Bedfordshire

I've recently been looking at Wikipedia pages about areas in the electoral ward of Eastcotts and I am disappointed about the pages of Cardington and the second paragraph of Harrowden and more. These pages need to be updated. They still say that they are in the civil parish of eastcotts, which is not true because the parish abolishment of eastcotts was in 2019. I am struggling to find sources to tell the truth about them. We need to join together to stop this. 94.194.31.200 (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. It's great that you want to make sure Wikipedia is up to date, but no, it is not a major emergency, and we do not need to "join together and stop this". Also, much as we would sometimes like it to be about truth, Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth.

We are all volunteers, and work on what we want to work on. Wikipedia is riddled with out-of-date information and outright mistakes, and many of us will correct them when we come across them. But, as you've found, doing so often involves searching for sources, which can be difficult and time consuming.

I would have thought that a civil parish being abolished would have been reported in local papers, no? ColinFine (talk) 17:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

yea i get you colin. I couldn't find sources anywhere 94.194.31.200 (talk) 17:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

If it was papers i would have to send in a screenshot as a citation mate 😂 94.194.31.200 (talk) 17:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Well no, see WP:OFFLINE. Also, a lot of old newspapers are in internet archives these days, often WP:PAYWALLED like British Newspaper Archive but still. Things like google drive can be useful in sharing sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I see that citation 2 in Eastcotts says unequivocally that "The parish of Eastcotts shall be abolished". So what is it that you are missing? ColinFine (talk) 19:29, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Its other pages in the ward of eastcotts that im talking about, for example cardington 2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6 (talk) 19:45, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

That article says otherwise 2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6 (talk) 19:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

"Most of the RAF training station is in the parish of Eastcotts, as is the settlement of Shortstown," 2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6 (talk) 19:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Frances Kesselbein's page

The link at the bottom of the page which should be Frances Kesselbein's Leadership Forum seems to link to something else entirely. I'm not sure who can/should check or fix that. Thanks 96.255.127.16 (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

IP editor, thank you, it seems the website moved to a new .pitt.edu website and the old site has been used for advertising, so I have updated the link. TSventon (talk) 20:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Request that the article on the Pawn programming language be reconsidered

Dear Wikipedia administrators,

I am writing to request that the article on the Pawn (programming language), i was made a draft in my sanbox be reconsidered move soon for a featured article nomination. I believe that this topic is worthy of a more in-depth exploration, particularly given its significant role in game development for embedded systems. The history of Pawn and the reasons behind its popularity among developers would make for a fascinating and informative read.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 21:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Please help @Midori No Sora Putu Suhartawan (talk) 21:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Per Cremastra, I don't quite get what you are trying to explain here Putu Suhartawan. I also don't understand why you specifically pinged me for this, as I am not an admin.

Just because this topic is widely used for game developments doesn't mean it should immediately be a featured article. Featured article are considered to be some of the best articles on the Wiki and the nomination process is very tough as there are many criteria to follow.

I'm sorry, but your draft clearly doesn't meet FA standards at the moment. Nor is it ready for the main page yet. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 23:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Administrators have no more power over featured article nominations than any other editor.

It is unclear what you are trying to do here, because there are many things that are confusing or wrong about your comment

1. Pawn (programming language) does not exist (and was deleted); you linked to a draft in your userspace.
2. Featured articles are the very best of Wikipedia articles and they pass through rigorous review processes. Your userspace draft would not be considered because it is a draft. You would have to move it to mainspace, but frankly it is definitely not featured article quality.
3. You say you want the draft to be "reconsidered" which implies you nominated it for featured article status in the past and it failed. This, as far as I can tell, is not the case.

So, @Putu Suhartawan can you explain what you want to happen here? Cremastra (talk) 23:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, Mr. @Cremastra. I understand that the current article does not meet featured article standards. However, I plan to improve and expand the article to meet the required criteria.

I intend to move the Pawn (programming language) draft to the mainspace and will strive to improve its quality. I would also like to highlight that on the page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawn (scripting language), there was a fairly supportive discussion about the topic's eligibility for a main article.

I hope to gain support from the Wikipedia community to develop this article into a comprehensive source of information on the Pawn programming language.

Reasons to Maintain the Pawn Programming Language Article on Wikipedia

1. Historical Significance and Community:

Origin and Development: Pawn has a notable history, having been developed by ITB CompuPhase and gaining popularity among game developers. Its open-source nature has fostered a dedicated community.

Legacy and Impact: Pawn has been used in various game development projects, particularly for embedded systems. Its influence and contributions to the programming landscape make it worthy of documentation.

2. Educational Value and Learning Resource:

Beginner-Friendly: Pawn's syntax and structure are relatively straightforward, making it suitable for those learning programming. Its availability as a free and open-source language provides a valuable learning resource.

Game Development Applications: Pawn's use in game development offers a practical context for learning programming concepts and applying them to real-world projects.

3. Technical Relevance and Current Use:

Active Development: While Pawn may not be as widely used as some modern languages, it continues to be developed and maintained.

Embedded Systems: Its relevance in embedded systems programming ensures its continued use in specific domains.

Community and Projects: The existence of an active community and ongoing projects demonstrate its ongoing relevance.

4. Comparison and Context:

Relationship to Other Languages: Comparing Pawn to other languages, especially C, can provide valuable insights into its unique features and benefits.

Historical Context: Understanding Pawn's place in the evolution of programming languages can offer a broader perspective on its significance.

5. Potential for Future Development:

New Applications: Pawn might find new applications or be adapted for emerging technologies.

Community-Driven Evolution: Its open-source nature allows for community-driven improvements and innovations.

In conclusion, while Pawn may not be a mainstream language today, its historical significance, educational value, technical relevance, and potential for future development justify its inclusion on Wikipedia. The article can serve as a valuable resource for those interested in learning about programming languages, game development, or the history of technology. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 01:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I encourage you to improve the article and work towards WP:FA status. A good short-term goal would be, once the article has been moved to mainspace and you are sure it is notable, try nominating it for WP:DYK.

A side note: generally, don't assume anyone here is "Mr." or "Ms." unless they state their gender explicitly. Often, people don't. You can just call me "Cremastra". Cremastra (talk) 01:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

As it stands the draft is not even ready for article space, let alone for featured article status. For starters there is only one ref (it's used twice but they are both the same ref), a simple description of the language from the developer. There is nothing independent to show the notability of the language. Meters (talk) 01:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia administrators,

Thank you for your valuable feedback and encouragement. I understand that the current draft of the Pawn (programming language) article does not yet meet the standards for a featured article. I am committed to improving the article and working towards achieving WP:FA status.

As a short-term goal, once the article has been moved to mainspace and I am confident in its notability, I will nominate it for WP:DYK.

I would like to clarify that I will avoid assuming anyone's gender unless it is explicitly stated. I will address individuals by their preferred pronouns or by their username.

Regarding the article's content, I acknowledge that there is currently only one reference and it needs to be expanded. I will strive to include more independent sources to demonstrate the language's notability.

I appreciate your guidance and support. I am dedicated to improving the quality of the Pawn (programming language) article and ensuring it meets Wikipedia's high standards.

Thank you, Putu Suhartawan (talk) 03:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Putu Suhartawan, if you are using ChatGPT or any form of AI or LLM to formulate your replies, then please stop immediately. We only want to hear from genuine human beings in their own words here. Imagine that you took your small child to a local kindergarten and they told you that the child was not ready for kindergarten and to wait a while for the child to develop. Imagine that you then responded, "Forget about kindergarten. Give my child a PhD degree." Do you think that anybody at that school would take you seriously? Cullen328 (talk) 06:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Cullen328,

Dear Wikipedia administrators,

Thank you for your valuable feedback and encouragement.But actualy i think the Pawn (programming language) article, need to be accepted like another wiki in another languange. In the wiki data about this topic was explain how it can be right?

Thank you,

Putu Suhartawan (talk) 12:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Putu Suhartawan That wasn't encouragement, it was a request not to use LLM when replying here. A pawn in the context of that Wikidata link is a chess piece and has little or nothing to do with your proposed article about a programming language. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Not be a chess article, but please think only and just only the Pawn (programming language) article. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 14:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Putu Suhartawan, please understand that the list of qualities you give above, apparently as a justification for arguing that Wikipedia should have an article on Pawn, is completely irrelevant to that question. English Wikipedia accepts articles only if they meet its criteria for notability, and in most cases, that means that there has been enough indepedent, reliable material published about the subject to base an article on. The qualities you list may make it likely that somebody independent has written about it, but you need to cite those actual publications; and then you need to base the article nearly 100% on what those sources say, not what you know or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 15:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Is greath idea. Thank you, But i need help. About, how the not English Wikipedia accepts articles all about the Pawn (programming language) article. When we know just English Wikipedia accepts articles only if they meet its criteria for notability. And please can you tell about how another version of wikipedia just have with same name is wikipedia, but they actually have different rules about everythink? like, another user just was try to make this article at another time. but is so sad, now that article just not exist. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 15:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Putu Suhartawan, each Wikipedia has its own rules and policies. There is one Wikipedia for each language (or at least lots of different Wikipedias for different languages), and English Wikipedia is generally considered to be the strictest in regards to sourcing and content. Often, an article that has been directly translated from another Wikipedia will not be accepted here without some extra work. If you speak another language more fluently than English, you could try to write an article for them instead - that might also be good practice for writing here if you wish to work on the English Wikipedia too! StartGrammarTime (talk) 00:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Clarifcation on Options to hide an image

Can any of you guys clarify on what the following means?

Disable images in search widget for certain skins

Search result images can be turned off by altering the respective common.css for the skin being used and adding a rule to not display background images for spans of the class .wvui-typeahead-suggestion__thumbnail. For example:

span.wvui-typeahead-suggestion__thumbnail {
  background-image:none !important;    
}

2601:8C:401:6020:FC17:186C:4AF4:5263 (talk) 22:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

It only applies to logged in users who can save the code at Special:MyPage/common.css, but I don't know whether there are currently circumstances where it works. This works for me in the default desktop skin Vector 2022:

.cdx-typeahead-search__menu .cdx-thumbnail__image {
  display:none !important;
}

PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

If I wanted to add one or more images, how do I do that? 204.10.61.206 (talk) 12:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

204.10.... Is Help:Pictures what you need? Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

September 30

Unlinking pages to wrong person

Hello,

I created a page for Seattle city council member Tom Weeks but a red link for an Olympic sailor was connected to it. I'm still relatively new at Wiki, and I would like to learn how to solve this problem and avoid this in the future.

Thanks, Bpuddin (talk) 00:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

This will happen sometimes. All you have to do is go and remove the incorrect wikilinks. -- asilvering (talk) 00:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! What is the code that I use to make the links red again? Bpuddin (talk) 00:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

You don't need to use any code - just remove the incorrect wikilink (take off the [[ ]] on either side of Tom Weeks), or disambiguate it (example). If someone only just added the wikilink, I'd simply revert their edit. If the link predates the creation of your article, you might want to disambiguate it instead, so that it will still show as a red link. -- asilvering (talk) 00:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Blocked

I am blocked for no reason. How can I create articles or how can i pass the text to others to create the articles? Timothymrandell (talk) 02:03, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Timothymrandell, you are not blocked. Did you used to have another account? -- asilvering (talk) 02:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Timothymrandell: Using an alternative account in violation of a block is a violation of WP:BADSOCK and I strongly suggest you stop using this account immediately. Log on to the blocked account and find the instructions for requesting an unblock / block appeal on your talk page; alternatively, see Wikipedia:Appealing a block (on your blocked account). GeorgeMemulous (talk) 02:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

If you are blocked from editing, creating articles is the last thing you want to consider for now. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

User:Cullen328 has blocked the OP, claiming the above is an admission of sockpuppetry. But it could also be an IP or VPN issue; and the block should be undone, absent any other such evidence. (I do note that User:Fredric Jameson, who is not blocked, has edited on the same topic, Marie-Térèse Baird, which may or may not be a coincidence).) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

This matter is being discussed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Fredric Jameson. Cullen328 (talk) 17:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh uh. Well, Fredric Jameson is quite dead these days, so that's another problem. -- asilvering (talk) 18:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, Asilvering, that is an unexpected curve ball. Cullen328 (talk) 18:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Sizemark

I am an English speaker, and Wikipedia articles appear in English, but everything else on the page is in German. This started a year or two ago. Can you tell me how to make it all English again? Sizemark (talk) 05:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Sizemark you have probably somehow set your preferences to German. To return to English go to Einstellungen (preferences) and then Spracheinstellungen (language preferences), select en - English and click Einstellungen speichern (save preferences). TSventon (talk) 06:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Sizemark: You can see your preferences in English at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?uselang=en and change to "en - English" under "Internationalisation". PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

What's the best citation?

Hi, what's the best way to cite this page in the 2024 AFL Grand Final article? For one thing, it uses {{cite web}} templates, which I've basically never used; I never use these templates. For another, it's a webpage with a transcript of a radio broadcast, and I don't quite know how I'd cite that even without worrying about the template; I pretty much always write from physical sources. I've added content to the article using this source, but I hid it all pending assistance with the citation; if you could both create a good citation and un-hide the new content, I'd appreciate it. Nyttend (talk) 07:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Maybe have a look at Template:Cite AV media. Something like this, maybe? Sydney and Brisbane in unlikely AFL grand final match-up. RN Breakfast. ABC. 27 September 2024. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 07:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for user name change

I would like to request you to change user from this Makers Muse to Makers' Muse Makersmuse (talk) 08:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Makersmuse Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Your current user name is Makersmuse, not "Makers Muse". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Makersmuse, please don't apply to have your username changed. After all, such applications take other people's time, and "Makersmuse" has so far made a total of one edit. Simply stop using "Makersmuse" and create and use "Makers' Muse" or whatever it is that you want. -- Hoary (talk) 11:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

This account is attached to an email that no longer exists. What do I do?

This account was created quite a long while ago under a different username until it was renamed, but I now realized after all this time that it was linked to an ancient email of mine that no longer exists. How can I change it if the confirmation email can never, ever be accessed? Preinstallable (talk) 11:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Preinstallable: An email address is optional and it appears you never set one but you do it or change it at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, since there isn't an "Email this user" option showing at Preinstallable, there may not be a registered email address for this account.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Figured it out: the confirmation email was sent to my new email, not the old one. Feel free to trout.

Thank you Preinstallable (talk) 02:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

wikipedia page out of date

Hello. My wikipedia page is out of date and needs updating. Is there a way to request such updates? The wiki site does not reference my new books and other activities. Here is the wikipedia page: Jamie Metzl

Here is my personal website with more updated information: https://jamiemetzl.com/ Thank you! Jamie Metzl 2603:7000:2240:32:814E:C06E:1A82:A578 (talk) 13:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest instead of directly editing the page. You'd be better off directing this to Talk:Jamie Metzl. Any claims you make and updates about yourself should be attributed to third-party sources, and the primary source you linked should only be used for non-controversial self descriptions. As well, your article has a tag stating that you may not be notable enough for a Wikipedia article, so finding sources might be difficult, but Wikipedia is built off of information that can be verified, not information that is necessarily true. See also WP:BLPSELFPUB for more information about citing your own website. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Please also see WP:About you and our FAQ for article subjects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Confirmed user properties needed

Trying to update the Carrozzeria Touring Superleggera logo, as the one in the page is outdated, a User:Ybsone listed for deletion on Wikimedia Commons the image, mentioning a copyright problem, saying as it is the company logo, it can't be my own work, but actually, i do work for Touring Superleggera, and im in charge for updating this page and the logo.

The page notifying me what happened, says "You can read and participate in the deletion discussion if you are interested or do not wish the file to be deleted. Thank y", but the deletion discussion says: "This page does not currently exist. You can search for this page title in other pages or create this page."

How can i update the right logo? it seems to be banned M.Duffau (talk) 13:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Most logos on Wikipedia are uploaded directly to the site, instead of being on Commons. This is because Commons is for free-to-use work, and, unless your company is going to release their logo under a Creative Commons license for anyone to use, it doesn't belong on Commons. You can upload the file at Wikipedia:File upload wizard, but must provide a fair use argument. Note that the image is likely to only be used on that page. You are an employee working under a conflict of interest, so I suggest you read the articles WP:COI and WP:PAID if you plan to edit beyond changing the logo to avoid potential issues that may arise when editing on behalf of your organization. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@GeorgeMemulous You may find the WP:NONFREE rationale that goes with the 2011 version of the logo at File:Touring superleggera srl.jpg helpful when uploading the new version to the English Wikipedia. Once the new logo is used in the article, a bot will delete the old one as we don't keep non-free files that don't appear in articles. Go to this page to upload your logo as non-free. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@M.Duffau New logo added to en-WP article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

too hard to edit, too messy

although I´ve spent a long time editing and translating, I do not understand the steps I have to follow in order to start editing. Not even found "edit" on the page! Can you help me with easy steps...then editing or tanslating will be "my cup of tea"... Miss Dunia (talk) 14:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Miss Dunia Well, you have now made two edits! On articles, there is a tab at the top of the page which takes you into the editor. Help:Introduction is a tutorial on how to edit using one of our two editing methods ("source" and "visual"). Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Miss Dunia. You appear to have found the answer after posting here, since you edited Jay Schwartz.

Your edit there was reverted, but please don't be disheartened: this kind of back-and-forth is normal: see WP:BRD.

By the way, I would have reverted your edit too, as "from the city of" means more than just "in": it means that it was the city (as an institution) that gave the award. ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Certain articles and topic areas may be protected against unregistered and inexperienced editors; in these instances, options to edit the page will be replaced with options to view the source code. See Wikipedia:Page protection for more information. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Linking Languages

Hi,

I just finished writing an article on the German film director Lutz Büscher. I have tried to link it to his German page, but I have been unsuccessful. I can't do anything in the "Add Languages" section, and my online research has brought me nowhere. Please help me, and thank you in advance! -Erin (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 15:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

PhoenixCaelestis, I clicked on edit links, entered de and Lutz Büscher and that created a link via Wikidata. This is explained at Help:Interlanguage links#Adding a new link. TSventon (talk) 15:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! -Erin (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis:, is that a partial translation of the German page? If so that should be mentioned in an edit summary, see Help:Translation#License requirements. TSventon (talk) 16:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I made the article myself, but I did use the sources from the German page. I did not go in and translate the German article into English through Wikipedia, if that's what you mean. -Erin (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 16:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis:, by translation I mean making a translation through your own knowledge of German or through automatic translation of any kind. I asked whether it was a translation because it can be a matter of judgement whether an article is a translation or a new article which mostly covers the same material.

By the way, I have added some categories based on those in Michael Kehlmann. TSventon (talk) 17:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I did not really translate the article, I just used the German article and its sources as my jumping off point to write the English article. I have some (very) limited knowledge of German, and I used Collins Translator to get a general idea of the subject. All the text, however, is my own writing. Also, thank you for adding the categories! -Erin (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 17:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Unsolved problem

I have solve one unsolved problem where to submit it 103.182.106.167 (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Try arXiv.org. Folly Mox (talk) 16:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

"Help+me"

Can you please help me to publish a page of real and valid content of an Research Academic as my sandbox has just been deleted and I am not sure what to do now ? Prof.JG.Cambridge (talk) 16:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal. This type of material, while verifiable and accurate, isn't the content Wikipedia is for. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Prof.JG.Cambridge, as an administrator, I could view the deleted content. It was a self-promotional résumé, and self promotion is not permitted on Wikipedia. Please be aware that Wikipeduia is not a free web hosting service, and also that autobiographical writing is strongly discouraged. Cullen328 (talk) 16:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Can you guide me on how best to get started and approach publishing some of the relevant articles and related patents that will be accepted..what is the best format for me to use and do I do this via Sandbox ? Prof.JG.Cambridge (talk) 16:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Articles published to mainspace are subject to scrutiny on their notability. Unless your topic has coverage from third-party sources, it doesn't belong in mainspace. Self-promotional material in the manner Cullen328 described has no place on Wikipedia. See WP:CRYSTALBALL (for your patents which are not as of yet accepted), WP:Notability (for any topic you choose to write about), and WP:COI (as you have a conflict of interest when writing about a topic you are involved with). GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Prof.JG.Cambridge I see no relevant publications authored by you in Google Scholar, so it is very unlikely you could pass any of the notability requirements listed at WP:NACADEMIC. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Citing an FTP server

I was on the article Radius of outermost closed isobar and I found that reference number 4 leads to an ftp:// address, which I believe is the address of an FTP server. I'm unable to view it in my browser, and I assume the server is down? I'm also almost certain it's a primary source so I may remove it later on if nobody else can verify it. Are citations to FTP servers allowed at all? GeorgeMemulous (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

You can view and download it here on the web. I downloaded it with FileZilla, which has much better FTP capabilities than a web browser.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

As I suspected, it's the synthesis of a primary source in the article. I'm aware of FTP, I'm just more concerned as to whether or not FTP citations themselves are allowed, as this is the first one I've stumbled upon. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

What protocol is used to retrieve a source has no impact on the source's reliability. In fact, sources do not have to be online at all. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 19:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I understand the connection to offline sources. My main concern is that it was more difficult to get to than an HTTPS connection and only accessible with specific software, even if such software is free and relatively common. I've removed the claim from the article, as it was synthesized from the primary source (the database itself was linked as a source to back up its own existence). GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Contents pop-up covers up text of Wikipedia article

I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to disable the little square "Contents" box that covers up the text in the upper left corner of Wikipedia page displays.

It looks something like this:

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Will in Seattle a.k.a. "Clueless" Clueless in Seattle (talk) 18:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Clueless in Seattle: I assume you still want to the left of the page heading so it's possible to see the table of contents at the top of the page. You can save ("Publish page" button) this in your CSS:

.vector-page-titlebar-toc {position: static !important;}

It only has effect while you are logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

What to do about AI generated content?

I believe this section was created using AI Dan_Taberski#Hysterical it's factually incorrect and none of the sources are real. The URL for the NYTs includes the year 2023, which means the source would've been published before the podcast was released in 2024. Not all of the information is completely wrong. Should I just correct the factual errors and move on? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

If it fails our reliability test, I would say remove the entire thing. AI content is generated by mechanisms which cannot distinguish truth from fact, and poison everything in which they are used. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:36, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Almost certainly an LLM-generated section, given how it makes the same claim twice (what the topic is) in different words with perfect grammar. I also see the generic name John Smith in the NYT citation. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Hover-and-preview-and-go-to

Kudos for this fabulous new feature! ...except for one problem, and surely I'm not the only editor bothered by this: Previews appear far too quickly, almost instantly. Frankly the incessant little pop-ups can become a nuisance, especially when I'm hunting through edit histories; they block my view like a giant trailing mouse-pointer that I can't turn off. It would be very helpful for there to be a brief delay, maybe 2 seconds of mouse hover, before the preview feature is engaged. — HelpMyUnbelief (talk) 21:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@HelpMyUnbelief: There are different preview features but if you see it in edit histories then I guess it's "Navigation popups" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. You can save this in your common JavaScript to get 2 seconds:

window.popupDelay = 2.0;

The default is 0.5. You can customize many other things at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups#Options. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Good Source?

Is this a good source? --> https://orah.co/slavitza-jovan/ <-- 3.14 (talk) 23:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

π, if you have to ask, then presumably it's not very obvious that it's either excellent or terrible. If indeed it seems to be somewhere between those poles rather than at either, then you should specify what you want to use it for. (For one thing, there's a major difference between (A) "her portrayal of Gozer the Gozerian is iconic" and (B) "her portrayal of Gozer the Gozerian has been called 'iconic'".) And such questions are better asked at WP:RSN than here. (My reaction? I lost interest as soon as I encountered the would-be flattering but vapid word "iconic".) -- Hoary (talk) 03:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

October 1

Hindi

Mujhe book chahiye 2409:40E5:1C:2918:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 12:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

This is a place for asking question about using Wikipedia, please make your point clear. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

What book do you want, and why are you asking for it here? ColinFine (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Places of interest near me

Is there a section of Wikipedia that lists places of interest near me? 47.225.248.202 (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Special:Nearby. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

IP editor. Wikipedia has articles about places all over the globe. Judging by your IP address, you might want to start at Madison. The encyclopaedia itself will not automatically base suggestions on where you are from: I had to look up your ISP. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

... unless you authorise location-based settings at Special:Nearby, as just suggested. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, GeorgeMemulous, for giving that link. I'm impressed. I've found an article I didn't know existed, about a road ten minutes walk from here. Maproom (talk) 16:47, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Ex abbot of wat sampran dragon temple was not a sexual abuser but victim of a criminal organization to destroy him

i wish that the Wikipedia give opportunity for writing my testimony as a devoted of such a saint Chamlong Khonsue . I was mentioned before I met him by two prophetess in america that I was to meet the master of the father of my boys an ex monk from Thailand d dragon temple , disciple of dragon monk as we call luang pho Bhavana Buddho . He is a saint , enlighten that under the hands <redacted>. The saint did not accepted and request them all to allow him serve the prison , sacrifice himself as a bodhisattva into prison to help the inmates and officers to go to heaven . So , I was in the mission to bring this testimony to king of Thailand , to pm , all vip , to united nations and since always till today we are blocked , oppressed , persecuted by the criminal organization that block this dragon temple the source of economical and spiritual power for all the world . A monument for peace and salvation for the world from the Christ version chinese.

Please clarify both version of Wikipedia ... I took him out of prison by a royal pardon 5 December 2019 in the occasion of father's day the happy birthday of lord Rama 9 . Thanks 2603:9001:68F0:86E0:241F:8D54:576C:58B (talk) 18:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The English-language Wikipedia has no article on Chamlong Khonsue. If it did, any article content would be based on published reliable sources, and not on the 'testimony' of a devotee. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Linking to articles

I am unsure if the edits I have tried to make are against guidelines. I work for a non profit that promotes all things happening in Salt Lake County and I was linking to additional resources on Salt Lakes page. I understand edits need to be made in order to build out a page for the non profit, which would just focus on tourism in salt lake county. is this allowed? Visit Salt Lake (talk) 20:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The safest thing to do is to propose changes at the article talk page as you clearly have a conflict of interest as you appear to represent an organisation. There is also an issue with your username, which should be personal to you rather than an organisation - see WP:ORGNAME. If you are being paid by the organisation, see also WP:PAID. Mikenorton (talk) 20:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

How do I make an "episode table" collapsible

Hi. I want to make an existing "Episode table" template table collapsible, default: collapsed. I've tried wrapping it in "{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" |+ ... |}, which I found somewhere, but that doesn't seem to do anything.

Thanks! Tsavage (talk) 20:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Tsavage I think that there is useful documentation at {{table}}. Disclaimer: I've never created a table! Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Harmful user

I've warned user:Sinclairian about the biased, inaccurate, and harmful edits they've been doing. These are on very niche topics that nobody's ever, ever going to notice. Like who's gonna actually check the source translation on the Arslan Tash amulets? Well, I did because the translation is so scrabblingly amateurish, (Also because I always look lately when I see that username on one of my watched articles) and the user's rendering of it actually had some "improvements" that might make the scholar look better or worse. The reader would think the translation has been accurately copied and pasted when that's not the case. The other translation's even worse by some scholar I don't know. Someone legitimate, I'm sure, but not good. I think questionable artifacts should be categorized as such and noted in the first paragraph, and translastions of questioned items and forgeries shouldn't be included for obvious reasons. Anyway, I think the user should be banned. Inaccurcies on minor Semitic languages that a dozen people know will stick around forever; the quietness of it means the ripples on public knowledge will spread with no end. Very subtly destructive stuff. (Sorry if this is the wrong place, it's my first time reporting a user.) Temerarius (talk) 23:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

User conduct is discussed at WP:ANI. 331dot (talk) 23:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

October 2

About application Britain society address

please send me info on Britain society address Marcellintehe (talk) 05:17, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

A professor running some student editing thing?

This is the AGF way to look at it, though I also see LLMs in use, at least in the summaries, but User talk:Noah Theodore Johnson, who's user page says they are a professor, has created a few articles where most accounts who edited it are accounts with nearly no edits elsewhere and usually who have edited in multiple of their created articles. Could someone who knows how these things should be ran and/or who has more time to investigate than me, give this a look? – 2804:F1...ED:16CD (talk) 05:44, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Erm, I still don't have time to do more investigation, but more investigation let me find out that one of the involved accounts, CronoWiki, is checkuser blocked in pt wiki as a sock of an user who's been socking since 2022 (who does not seem to have a sock case in this wiki). Which is at least suspicious. – 2804:F1...ED:16CD (talk) 05:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)