Talk:Gutter punk

This article was nominated for deletion on 28 April 2014 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

wow. This article is so off base and incorrect. Ignore the below comments too. Should just be deleted.

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this is just a stupid article...

yep... i agree, and the photo sucks.

This is incorrect because all the gutter punks I've met don't "get along" with anyone and crust punks don't like them either, also they claim to believe in anything including peace and what crust punks believe. You forgot to add huge crack habits and criminal records.

WHATS STUPID IS THAT PROBABLY NONE OF THE WRITERS HAVE SPENT A SINGLE NIGHT IN A SQUAT OR TRAVELLED (NOT ON A PLANE) DEF NEVER BEEN AROUND THE YPEOPLE THEY WRITE ABOUT, YET THINK THEY ARE AUTHORITIES, EVEN BEING SO FULL OF THEMSELVES A DISMISS ACTUAL GUTTER PUNKS COMING ON HERE SAYING, "ER, ACTUALLY, THATS WRONG" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:7000:D5F0:0:0:0:DE15 (talk) 02:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to the page

I added a few lines. Some may not agree, but whatever. I myself have lived on the streets for several years, and hung out with gutter punks, so I know what I added is true. If you want to see the additions, check the "history." -- NME 12:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i happen to be a gutterpunk and agree with this article. i find it rediculous that a bunch of oogles who have no real experience with my kind can feel so justified in their dumbass opinions. good job wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.170.226 (talk) 18:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk: gutter punk

This group is pretty understudied by academia so it's going to be hard to create a solid encyclopedic article. This article does need work, but you're going to have a hard time getting it without some academia preceeding you.38.112.4.154 (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah.....yes gutter punks . Crust punks do like gutter punks,crusters usualy get along good with any breed cept posuers , and people who question there beleifs till the point when there like 'fuck you !' well atleast the ones i know . The ones i chill wit are pretty compatible with other counter cultures . adcept those house dudes and dance and hip hop and what not R and B crap people . Crust punks like metalheads alot too .well Again to a sertain exstent . Someone should add a part of the article that destribes the gutter punks freindship with the crust punks . Thanks .

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryusho2 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

In my experience with gutter punks yeah their is a good amount that are homeless and/or squatters. But i've met some that do live in trashed apartments. As for them not agreeing entirely with crust punk views I know a few that do have a percieved notion of peace. Largely it depends on the individual. As for the drug use not all of them do heroin or crack or what have you. Their are some that do subscribe to straight edge. All I say is don't believe in the common stereotype all the time.

this article is the stupidest thing i've ever read. ive never heard this term even used outside someone talking about the casualties songs or something. and everything just sounds like it was written by 2 or 3 dudes and their idiotic conceptions of what "gutter punk" is. and i cant even tell if that glossary is a fucking joke or not.

Yeah, all of these suggestions violate that little requirment, ya know, the one that prohibits ORIGINAL RESEARCH! what you guys have experienced means absolutely nothing in an encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.40.59 (talk) 21:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC) I am not some[reply]

lame who nerds out on wikipedia, maybe one of the actual nerds who care about accuracy will read this, but as a gutter punk of 30 plus years, i need to point out a few things FIRST: fucking oogles are not a synonym for gutter punks, they are the street kids that stay in sheltewrs and eat at soup kitchens, many are assotiated with juggalo bullshit, we hate hem, i mean absolutely despise them, there is zero crossover between cultures. Scumfucks ar not the same as gutter punks, they are misogynistic, while moist punks are feminists, of a sort, anyway, scumfucks flirt with shit like nazism, while gutter punks are militantly anti racist, basicly most punks, gutter included, have defined politics, scum fucks are apolitical. fuck it, i dno know why im even botherin, wikipedia is not a place where e truth matters, as everyone knows...

Deleted seemingly offensive, stereotypical, and unsourced information

I think Gutter Punks are noteworthy enough to have their own article on Wikipedia. However, this article MUST be expanded, and additionally, it must be presented in an encyclopedic manner. I deleted some information that was just not adhering to these criteria, among others.Gstridsigne (talk) 10:59, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted a very well referenced section with a very vague explanation that it is... I'm not sure what. You'll need to be a lot clearer. "Seemingly offensive, stereotypical" is not a valid argument. It's certainly not "unsourced" (citing the NY Daily News and The New York Fucking Times which seem to be pretty damned good sources for the material from where I'm sitting. If you think the presentation is not "in an encyclopedic msanner", editing, not removal, would be the solution. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, did you read the sourced material? One of them was about runaways and didn't even mention Gutter Punks. The other was OBVIOUSLY biased. Honestly, I really think that this article should be deleted, and I am going to nominate it as such. Also, there is no reason to be so rude, dismissive, demeaning, and condescending. I do not appreciate your tone. Gstridsigne (talk) 22:26, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will go ahead and refer you to the Wikietiquette article to help you better express yourself in a more positive manner. Gstridsigne (talk) 22:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've added my comments to the AfD, addressing your concerns about the sources you removed and listing additional sources you may have missed in your search. (I'm sorry my comments upset you. The "tone" you heard was not the tone I intended.) - SummerPhD (talk) 00:03, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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