Talk:Watson-class lifeboat

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Watson split

I think its time this section was split into two separate pages.

Watson-class (P&S) lifeboats
Watson-class (motor) lifeboats

MartinOjsyork (talk) 17:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have been pondering the same thing myself while I have been expanding and editing the page. It would mean that all the pages that were created by @Ambak51: for the different lengths would need to be merged back into the new motor lifeboats page.

Wiki naming policy for disambiguating titles and avoiding acronyms would require:

Watson-class pulling and sailing lifeboat
Watson-class motor lifeboat

Geof Sheppard (talk) 12:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't see why it would all need remerging.

Separate off Pulling and Sailing.

And create a list page like we have for RNLI stations, for all the different motor pages.

MartinOjsyork (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't seem to make sense that this page should have two of the lists but readers have to go elsewhere to find the details of others. If I want to find out a bout Watson-class RNLB Charles Henry Ashley, which page do I go to?.

If there really is a need to split the motor lifeboats into smaller pages then I think we should take a step back and consider how the different designs relate. Is it that there are just three, each produced with two or more lengths?

Single-engine petrol lifeboats
Twin-engine petrol lifeboats
Diesel-engined lifeboats

Fewer pages; similar designs and build dates are grouped together; less confusion. Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's already a Liverpool-class P&S lifeboat page

So no reason why we can't have a Watson-class P&S lifeboat page

Lets split that off, and then we can review whats left.

MartinOjsyork (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Lets split that off, and then we can review whats left." What will be left is pretty much what was on the page a month ago — an unsourced history, two tables, and half a dozen short sections linked to the other pages.

I'm still not convinced that it needs to be split into so many pages. WP:SPLIT gives an idea of article length but I don't think it would reach too large a size even if all the motor lifeboats were merged. The prose on the current page is about 750 words, and each of the other pages would add perhaps 250 or 500 once the repetition is edited out. So the total is well short of the 8,000 guide for when a page needs to be split. The guidance suggests that lists should be treated differently and not split across pages if this can be avoided.

But if we do split off the pulling and sailing lifeboats that I have been working on, the title must be 'Watson-class pulling and sailing lifeboat' to comply with the policy of no acronyms in titles. Geof Sheppard (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]