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Please make page: flexible economic model, economic eclecticism
Most Western countries are flexible with some inertia after the change in conditions.
They might exhibit even Keynesianism while maintaining neoliberalism. Actually governments adjust the percentages of eclecticism. We are supposed to (also) write what actually happens, and not only present idealized theories.
No mention of Higher Education?
There is no mention here of higher education and credentialing -- enrollments track incarceration, right?
There are two recent books by Michael Lind -- another outspoken conservative critic of neoliberalism -- that contextualize what he calls the "credential arms race" in terms of declining situation of workers brought on by the post-New Deal shift to neoliberalism. "The New Class War" (2020) and "Hell to Pay" (2023) 182.2.140.147 (talk) 08:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC) 50.4.132.185 (talk) 17:29, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
IPs vandalizing the page.
A certain IP is now insistently vandalizing the page to add a picture of a brain tumor as a "helpful image". I don't want to get enrolled in an edit war, so I'm bringing this issue here. Daniel de Louro (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Criticism section is too long
One third of the article. I think it should be trimmed. 177.86.143.52 (talk) 14:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think that it has become sort of because a coatrack / soapbox for critiques on how the world runs and/or free markets and/or capitalism. I did a quick sample of (on line) references and the first 5 that I found didn't even mention neoliberalism. North8000 (talk) 17:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Any content from references that do not mention neoliberalism is inherently original research and should be removed imediately. StellarHalo (talk) 13:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Looking over the sources it appears that the vast majority are not only reliable, academic sources but directly pertain to the topic of the article. The section is by far the most well sourced of all the sections here. If length is the issue and not sourcing I have long advocated for the section to be turned into its own article (like Criticism of Capitalism, for instance) and the criticism section here dramatically shortened into a summary of the new article. Outside of that I would oppose mass deletions of reliably sourced, long-standing material, and would probably be inclined to restore such mass deletions unless a significant consensus is found here for such deletions. If anything, the section of the article which appears to have sources not pertaining to neoliberalism would be the traditions section.--C.J. Griffin (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Any content from references that do not mention neoliberalism is inherently original research and should be removed imediately. StellarHalo (talk) 13:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Pathetic on US section
The neoliberalism was brought about by Ronald Reagan. Not Democrats. Clearly POV with one or two citations by the author to clearly show the authors intentions. This is a deceit. Reagan’s policies were what brought about neoliberalism that Clinton was forced to coincide buy. And he didn’t purge anything as both Bush presidents continued the policy of defense spending and traditional values. Clinton was forced by a GOP congress as well in the 90s to adopt neoliberal policies too. 2601:58B:900:72D0:2C85:33B7:4A95:6B6D (talk) 19:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Additional information needed OK, but do you have some some citations from a reliable source to back up your statements? Otherwise it is just original research, which is disallowed on English Wikipedia. Peaceray (talk) 23:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Neoliberalism actually starts with Nixon & Carter according to at least some analyses. Both Democrat & GOP were neoliberalist by the time of Reagan & Clinton. The above sounds like a common narrative that tries to blame one party while holding the other virtuous but with hands tied. – ishwar (speak) 00:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- "starts with Nixon & Carter" Why is Gerald Ford excluded? Dimadick (talk) 11:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- I may not have a reference for Ford, but you should add some information to the article if you have it.
- It seems to me that folks mention Carter as a reaction to the idea of neoliberalism starting with Reagan, and now I see that Nixon is mentioned as a reaction to the idea that neoliberal policies start with Carter. Although I'm not a historian or expert in neoliberalism, I would a priori guess that all of this is an oversimplification because why should businesses try to influence government policy to their favor only during a particular presidency. Seems more likely that there would always be pressure to change the New Deal policies and that over time changes may successful. Another question I would pose is what roles did the legislative and judicial play – can most every thing really be attributed only to president administrations? It's probably complicated, so a lot of research is needed. – ishwar (speak) 23:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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