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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Cyp (talk | contribs) at 21:45, 6 August 2003 (Reverted to last edit by Jimregan). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Your input is requested at Talk:U.S. occupation of Iraq. MB 00:27 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Ah, I'm glad someone started editing Categorical Imperative. It's quite the worst article I've written... :-) Evercat 02:23 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad it already had something written, I wouldn't have wanted to start from scratch. I've taken a few classes that studied Kant, but his writing is particularly impossible to penetrate, so I don't recall all the details (and it seems a lot of scholars disagree on how to interpret his writings anyway). Perhaps I'll scour some online philosophy encyclopedias for more info. -- Delirium 03:01 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)

It's so good to have someone to discuss philosophy with. :-) Evercat 00:18 6 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Public domain resources -- Tim Starling 01:45 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Moved/reposted to Athenagoras of Athens --Delirium 01:48 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

You are incorrect re Tel Aviv. According to the French Foreign Ministry, Tel Aviv is the capital. Ditto with Ireland, the US until 2002, most of Europe, etc etc. FearÉIREANN 01:26 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Ah, weird; thanks for the info. The basis of my reasoning was that all these countries listed Jerusalem as the capital prior to 1981 (and kept their embassies there), and the 1981 UN resolution only condemned the annexation and asked countries to move their embassies in protest -- it didn't say that Jerusalem wasn't Israel's capital, it only said that Jerusalem's unilateral expansion was illegal. Perhaps other countries have outside the UN changed their positions though. I'll look into it some more. --Delirium 01:50 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The reason was that when Israel was set up in 1948, Tel Aviv was the capital. As far as the world was concerned, Jerusalem was to be a form of open city, which no-one side was to claim as their undisputed capital, given that for either side to do so would be a provocative affront to the others. Israel's unilateral selection of Jerusalem was seen as breaking one of the fundamental rules set out when Israel was created. Someone on the Israel page has said that I think only three countries in the world recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital. I knew it was a small number, but not that small. (And that includes the US in 2002!) So I think if only 3 countries accept Jerusalem as Israel's capital, we cannot in all honesty list simply Jerusalem. If it was only 3 or 4 regarded Tel Aviv as the capital, then maybe so, but if 150+ states regard Tel Aviv, and 3 Jerusalem, we should automatically put in both. FearÉIREANN 02:01 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. I'm still doing some research, and will post a comment on my current understanding of things to Talk:Israel in a minute. --Delirium 02:10 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

wow you kicked ass on my article. I didn't realize I'd made that many mistakes. Thanks for fixing it. Glad to see someone was paying attention. I am talking about Vending machines. Dmsar 08:24 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hey, that's the whole point of this being a wiki. :-) --Delirium 08:33 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Well unless it's required (such as mensa), I don't like "joining" a group. I tend to find my comfort zone as an outsider, that way I can avoid rejection. But I can write up a pretty good article off the top of my head. Reference are good when I don't know the depth of a lake (see Detroit Lake), and when I often mess somthing up or misstype, I have confidence that someone else will see and fix it -- I sure see other people's mistakes easily.

Yeah, I usually prefer to write my own articles as well; no dealing with other people's opinions then. :P You can find an amazing amount of stuff just by googling a bit; usually enough to write an article. I do a lot of little copyediting when I spot stuff too though. --Delirium 08:57 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

you are good. thanks for the picture for the vending machine. I see the word "float" and for some reason it baffles me. But with real concrete examples such as yours, I can learn and be better at this. It wasn't a great picture, but I think a little "eye-candy" makes an article more appealing. There is too much text. Look at my contributions, and you will find pictures in most.

Len Dmsar 10:18 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, unfortunately wikipedia hasn't written wiki-markup to do that, so we're stuck with some HTML div elements. If you want to see the various options for placing images (including floats), there's examples of the markup at Wikipedia:Image use policy (scroll down to the "Markup" section). For the one at vending machine I used "right float, with caption." --Delirium 20:07 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have marked White-cheeked Pintail as an intermediate save, jimfbleak

No problem; just wanted to make sure it wasn't something accidental that'd be left there. :) --Delirium 06:45 14 Jul

Here's your standard text :-). Congratulations, you have just been made a sysop! You have volunteered for boring housekeeping activities which normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops basically can't do anything: They cannot delete pages arbitarily (only obvious junk like "jklasdfl,öasdf JOSH IS GAY"), they cannot protect pages in an edit war they are involved in, they cannot ban signed in users. What they can do is delete junk as it appears, ban anonymous vandals, remove pages that have been listed on Votes for deletion for more than a week, protect pages when asked to by other members, and help keep the few protected pages there are, among them the precious Main Page, up to date.

Note that almost everything you can do can be undone, so don't be too worried about making mistakes. You will find more information at Wikipedia:Administrators, please take a look before experimenting with your new powers. Drop me a message if there are any questions or if you want to stop being a sysop (could it be?). Have fun! --Eloquence 21:16 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Okay, I'm pretty easy-going, but this Paektu (korean i assume) character is really getting on MY nerves now. I think a picture of him needs to illustrate the "moron" article. arrgh Dmsar 04:01 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, it's getting old. Looking through his edit history indicates he's been doing this for at least a week now, intermittently. That's not even counting all the pages that've been deleted that don't show up in his history. --Delirium 04:02 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I was planning on warning him/her again, and if it doesn't stop we should block the IP. (It's just as much a waste of their time as ours, ironically enough; I guess I'll never understand the motivation.) - Hephaestos 04:37 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

When you delete something, please note the IP address, if it's by an IP address (so that we can scan the deletion log for persistent vandals) and the reason (in this case "garbage. Cebids are monkeys, not insects") as well as the content. -phma 08:19 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I like the story of Martin Van Buren Bates. Thanks! -- ESP 20:48 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

You're welcome! It was on the Requested Articles page, and the idea of a person named after Martin Van Buren of all people caused enough curiosity for me to track down some info. --Delirium 20:53 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)


BTW thanks for the Depleted uranium pointer in our Village Pump discussion. Will be a very useful item.Dandrake 01:28 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Whee, simultaneous edit on Symphonie Fantastique - I think this means your version is lost forever; did you make any major changes? Evercat 23:32 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Nope, I just changed opium. to opium (no period), which it seems you also did. I didn't know simultaneous-edits-without-an-edit-conflict-notice were possible. How does that happen, and how do you notice when it happens? --Delirium 23:43 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Uh, it happens when the 2 edits are at precisely the same time (give or take). The 2 edits show up on Special:Recentchanges but not on PageHistory:Symphonie Fantastique. Evercat 23:47 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm going to undelete it now. -- Notheruser 03:12, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up that mess. -- Notheruser 03:29, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I'm not familiar, but the article used to say "Although he was born in Mainland China, because of family roots in Taiwan, he is not usually considered member of the Mainlander sub-ethnic group in Taiwan." An anon, with a record of POV conflicts, changed it. I restored the original version. --Jiang 07:13, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting my user page, I only noticed it today :) -- Jim Regan 20:48, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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