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How is it produced?

How is scopolamine produced for medical use? Is it derived from plants, or completely produced by chemical processes? Can someone add that to the article? Jimhoward72 (talk) 20:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable sources RE: Czech torture and effects?

I've been trying to find any actual evidence that scopolamine was used for the explicit purpose of eliciting confessions, as well as any evidence that it actually has such effects, rather than just the standard psychoactive effects? Ever since the Vice documentary, which perpetuated claims that a single dose of dust blown in your face can turn you into a walking zombie, the information around scopolamine's use in crimes seems sketchy.

The source given here on the article, stating that it has been proven to have been used in Czechoslovakia is from https://www.idnes.cz/, a czech tabloid. Furthermore, its sources are from witnesses who would understandably not be reliable as to the specifics. Its use as a "truth serum" seems to be debated, seemingly used more in robbings and assaults in developing countries like GHB is used in developed countries. Contemporary CIA reports seem to assert that its use was more likely as a sedative or to confuse people - and not as a "truth serum".

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp65-00756r000400020007-9

"There is no evidence that the Communists have effectively or extensively used amytal interviews as a means of extracting confessions, although it is quite probable that they have experimented with this maneuver. The hypnotic drug which is most frequently mentioned as a Communist tool is Scopolamine, a naturally occuring substance long known in medical science. It is one of the ingredients in the "twilight sleep" medication used by obstetricians on women in labor. It, too, has an intoxicating and befuddling effect in small doses, an effect which would be difficult to distinguish from that of the profound fatigue, sleep loss, undernourishment, anxiety and confusion produced by the usual Communist control techniques. In every instance in which there is direct evidence that Communist police have given hypnotic and sedative drugs to prisoners, they have administered these drugs for the purpose of calming and relaxing excited and fatigued individuals. American physicians would be likely to use these drugs in a similar manner for the same reason."

I think this article needs solid sourcing, or removing the mention if none exist.

https://www.sciencehistory.org/stories/magazine/stranger-than-fiction/ 86.21.49.156 (talk) 10:55, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use in crime full of speculation and redundant information

It would be good to go through this section and clean up citations, redundant information and re-organize for readability. I tried cleaning it up a bit but it really could use a rewrite. Smarter1 (talk) 05:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change to a label in the diagram

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Someone (not I) has typed in a request for a change to labeling in the diagram. This request is at the top of the Talk page, dated May 2024.

I may have picked the wrong wizard ... I don't have a COI, but I don't know how to make the requested change.

174.56.8.205 (talk) 07:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I share your frustrations when it comes to the lack of replies to my topics on some talk pages. I have created numerous topics requesting support for an edit I’m not confident in performing. Though I seem to little support in the form of replies (unless it’s regarding a very active Wiki page). I know there are Wiki backlog logs for certain things waiting to be reviewed, however I haven’t found anything dedicated specifically to open talk page requests… But I digress.

Regarding your request: I’m far from a chemical compositions expert, but I am confident if you can provide a reliable reference which supports what you’d like to alter, you should have no problem in making the change. Herenow44 (talk) 08:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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