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Miss Universe Azerbaijan's Bahar Mirzayeva of her hometown

What do you think is her hometown Baku or Ganja! 77.77.219.127 (talk) 20:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already confirmed South Sudan's Debuts on Miss Universe

i saw the Announced Director of Miss Universe South Sudan is Faumata Carey 77.77.219.225 (talk) 15:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addressing the big issue

I think at this point we can absolutely agree that this article's encylopedic value has increasingly lowered, as there are certain sections that have the references not explicitly saying the part it was supposed to cite, not to mention some editors have now started showing aggressive behavior and adding unsourced for the mere sake of keeping all the info accurate to the info provided by the primary source (Miss Universe Organization) when in fact Wikipedia's main purpose is to be a third party article.

@Sciencefish, @Allyriana000, @Jjj1238, @Bri, @LikeRealTimes I am asking for your inputs on this part or even assist in restoring the original consensus we have agreed upon before (re: removing unsourced addition of participating countries) Milesq (talk) 17:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any more local consensus needs to be developed on supporting WP:Verifiability, a core policy of Wikpedia. But can you give a diff or two describing the problem at hand? ☆ Bri (talk) 17:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri kindly check the upcoming pageants section's references, particularly the one with the rowspans, I checked the reference and it does not say any coronation date at all - only confirmation of possible participation, which is absolutely not the info it claims to be. I did remove it before as per my edit but was again reverted by a certain editor as seen here, just reasoning it should not be removed.

The editor is pretty agressive (has already called me as 'talking too much' and 'stupid') and I do not want to end up edit-warring hence why I asked to reinstate consensus as they seem to not abide by it. They seem to be hounding this article lately too as per my observation. Milesq (talk) 17:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have issued a warning for this (late, but I've been on holiday). If we escalate properly, a continuing problem can be dealt with more easily at a later date. Sciencefish (talk) 13:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An admin banned them for a week. Sciencefish (talk) 22:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the reason I have stopped editing Miss Universe pageant articles is the prevalence of editors who refuse to comply with policy and lower the quality of the articles by adding either irrelevant or unsourced content. In my experience, the only way to prevent this from continuously occurring is seeking punishments for editors who continuously are violating policy. As a suggestion for the upcoming pageant dates section, I think we should put the source on the country name rather than the date to make it more visibly apparent when a country is unsourced. They get away with adding unsourced content by pretending that the one or two sources on the date covers every country that is on that date. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the reason why I have edited more on Wikipedia Tagalog. Many editors in this article are newbies who do not know about the rules in Wikipedia, especially with the addition of unsourced content. The only for those aggressive accounts to lessen their occurrence is for this page to have 1) Extended confirmed protection 2) Report the aggressive accounts 3) Remove unsourced content unapologetically. Allyriana000 (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Allyriana000 I went ahead and took action of restoring the proper conventions, now in case they do another personal attack at me I will have to raise it to WP:ANI so they can finally reflect (if ever) that they are not helping Wikipedia's encyclopedic content. Milesq (talk) 12:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Universe will be extented protected not semi-protected, ao please contact with administrators, another vandalism does the thing by @Carlo jamid puts in his language Sudan del Sur, not South Sudan. 77.77.219.225 (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carlo jamid will be blocked permentaly for prevent vandalism

Please @Drmies contact with @Carlo jamid, he already not speaken language, english language is spoken by Wikipedia persons, not spanish. Per MOS:COMMONNAME. Who puts unsourced Countries on "Debuts" and "Returns".77.77.219.225 (talk) 08:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please try to be clearer with your English, as MOS:COMMONNAME makes no sense in this context. Please issue language warnings on the users talk page, not here using Template:Uw-english. Likewise please use the unsourced warning templates, starting with Template:Uw-unsourced1 and escalate from there, and if you are contacting an administrator do so on their talk pages with some relevant diffs and indications that the user you are reporting has been previously warned. I'm posting this here as you do not have an account and this will be lost on an IP talk page. Sciencefish (talk) 13:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Sciencefish i already contact with @Liz and she will be reply soon. I guess, my pleasure 77.77.219.225 (talk) 18:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ,i am sorry

. Carlo jamid (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Azerbaijan, Estonia & Eritrea

Why were they removed, even tho they confirmed their participation on their instagrams + the org? Ik, insta is not a reliable source. But we can put them here until we find a real source for them... PS: miss azerbaijan bahar mirzayeva posted a pic with the crown and sash... 188.80.55.188 (talk) 08:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No its not about the insta but it its have a source so why are the removing estonia and eritre? 49.146.35.200 (talk) 11:17, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Catia108

That's your last Chance, Do not remove countries, they already put source on Debuts, returns and withdrawals. That's your last warning who was edited by Carlo jamid. 77.77.219.225 (talk) 13:24, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have not edited again, check the editions were others, the warning is for you Carlo jamid (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Carlo jamid finally you talk in english 77.77.219.225 (talk) 12:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Catia108 did 4 times to removed Countries who is sourced and announced their director! 77.77.219.225 (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Universe UAE

There should be appointed delegate to represent her country! Wait for offical announcement @Milesq @Thomson Walt @Sciencefish, be active for this moment. and find source! 77.77.219.225 (talk) 12:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

miss universe Myanmaer

hj 65.18.121.58 (talk) 08:29, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss universe EAU

The Miss Universe UAE organization has already confirmed its participation in the 73rd edition of the pageant, said country will choose its queen on October 19, 2024. Carlo jamid (talk) 18:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds so great 77.77.218.177 (talk) 09:07, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why 125 countries not 130

Another scandalism pageantary shows unknowns reasons why Some countries not anymore participated like UAE, Saudi Arabia, Tanzania, Ghana. Brooo 77.77.218.177 (talk) 09:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The United Arab Emirates will elect its representative on October 19 and the other countries, there is no information, it is most likely that they will appoint them. Carlo jamid (talk) 16:52, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Representative for Miss Universe

Karyna Kisialiova failed to represent her country from her health issues, Replaced by Eleanora Kachalovskaya. 77.77.218.177 (talk) 16:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]