User talk:Bohemian Baltimore

A barnstar for your efforts

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	Thank you for your continued service adding to Wikipedia throughout 2020. - Cdjp1 (talk) 13:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

A well-deserved award

		The Maryland Barnstar
		For your dedication to Maryland-related articles. I appreciate your help on Islam in Maryland :) —  Melofors  TC 22:27, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

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		What a fantastic surprise to wake up to new categories on so many articles I started! Thank you – and I'll try my best to improve my categorization skills and pay it forward ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 17:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Right to sit

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A barnstar for you!

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	For your work on Improving and creating Jewish articles Skullovitch (talk) 17:43, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Bohemian Baltimore!

Happy New Year!

Bohemian Baltimore,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your contributions on Judaism, Israel, Palestine, and Queerness in Baltimore! BMORE PRIDE!!! Ecco2kstan (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Working on Draft:Antisemitism in Mexico

Hello there, I began a new draft, Draft: Antisemitism in Mexico, after seeing the idea on your page. I would really appreciate your input on the page, as you've written a lot about Jewish topics, and have made many "Antisemitism in..." pages. Jaguarnik (talk) 20:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Jewish tartan

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Pro-Israel --> Zionist

The two aren't interchangeable. For one thing, RS do not use the two terms interchangeably, almost exclusively preferring "pro-Israel". The redirect should be corrected, perhaps to reflect to Israel lobby or something to that effect, to reflect the differentiation, and to comply with WP:COMMONNAME. Longhornsg (talk) 06:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

@Longhornsg Thanks for the comment. I'm not seeing the distinction, but it is a discussion worth having, as both terms appear frequently in print. I would recommend a broader community discussion over this before the redirect is charged, to invite other perspectives. Perhaps the distinction between "Zionist" and "pro-Zionist" can also be poked at. My main caution is that we must be vigilant to not endorse a view which construes Zionism and Zionists as automatically Jewish and "pro-Zionists" and being "pro-Israel" as automatically non-Jewish, as that would be inaccurate and in my view antisemitic. Perhaps some people use "pro-Israel" because they might perceive "Zionist" as having a more negative connotation. Why proud Zionists wouldn't champion the term, I don't know. Maybe as PR. Is there scholarly discussion about these terminological distinctions? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 08:06, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

@Bohemian Baltimore @Longhornsg

I don't know what is the background to this discussion, but as for the distinction between "Pro-Israel" and "Zionist", in my opinion it is simple.

Zionism is the ideology that Jews have the right of self-determination in (all or part) of their historical homeland. Anyone who subscribe to this view is therefore a Zionist. Pro-Israeli is someone who likes and supports Israel and maybe even acts or speaks in her favor.

This means that the set of "Pro-Israelis" is a subset of the set of "Zionists". That is anyone who is pro-Israeli is necessarily a Zionist, for it's quite impossible to love and support a state without believing that it has a right to exist. But you can be a Zionist and not be pro-Israeli, if you believe that it has a right to exist but are indifferent to it beyond that. For example I definitely think that Uruguay has a right to exist, but otherwise I'm quite indifferent to it. One can have a similar view on Israel. Vegan416 (talk) 20:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Tunisian people of Bosniak descent

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Category:Indigenous languages of Europe has been nominated for discussion

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A barnstar for you!

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Category:Accessible Montreal Metro stations has been nominated for deletion

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Category:American people who self-identify as being of Lipan_Apache descent

Hello, Bohemian Baltimore,

I thought I'd let you know that this category has been tagged for speedy deletion. But the way it was tagged, I guessed you would not have received a notification about it. I think it would be worth a minute of your time to go see the deletion rationale accompanying the tagging to consider whether or not this category is appropriate for the project. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pueblo of San Ildefonso, New Mexico

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Category:American people who self-identify as being of Abenaki descent

Really appreciated finding this page. I am a scholar in Vermont that works with Abenaki and other scholars specifically on this issue. Would love to collaborate / share info / support this page but have never been on the back end of Wikipedia Mr. Scholaris Vulgaris (talk) 18:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Donald Edmond Pelotte. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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@Cabayi Thanks. I left a message on the talk page. The IP user has continued to edit and has not responded. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I have alerted the offended party to the discussion. Cabayi (talk) 22:21, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles on ANCSA village entities

Almost every article I've spot-checked so far is a blatant WP:NOTDIR violation. Do you honestly suppose other editors are going to come along and fill in that content? Based on past experience, it's highly doubtful that will happen anytime soon. Also, almost all of the accompanying categories run afoul of WP:CATDEF; as such, they also run afoul of WP:EPON. Let me know what help you require in straightening that out before someone comes along and nominates it all for deletion. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 23:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@RadioKAOS These are federally recognized tribes. I think your tone is unnecessarily scornful. What makes you think I'm not going to add more to the articles, or haven't already? Almost all of them were created recently. Over the last few months, I've begun to create and add more information on Alaska Native tribes. Previously, I've edited and created articles on Native American tribes in the contiguous USA for the last several years. I'll try to add more to the existing articles on federally recognized tribes before I create any more. Take care. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:White nationalism in France has been nominated for merging

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:American people who self-identify as being of Lipan Apache descent

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Category:Indigenist political parties in the Americas has been nominated for merging

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CFD discussion re Category:Native American people from the San Francisco Bay Area

Hey there. I thought you might like to take a look at the CFD discussion that is under way. I initially refrained from inviting your participation, but after further reflection, I feel that you should be afforded the opportunity to share your views, given how closely related this category is to Category:Native Americans in the San Francisco Bay Area, which you created a few years back. Although I surmise that Category:Native American people from the San Francisco Bay Area (which I created) must have escaped your notice at the time! :) Regards, Anomalous+0 (talk) 00:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 6 § Category:Anti-Armenianism

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Category:Afro-Indigenous has been nominated for renaming to Category:Afro-Indigenous peoples of the Americas

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People of West Asian-Jewish descent

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Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States has been nominated for merging

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Chicana

Thank you for your suggested edits on the page for Chicana Feminism! As I read the page I also noticed it was entrenched in white gaze and completely dismissed the hardships and violence women came to face in this movement. Thank you! Violetviola3 (talk) 20:08, 12 March 2024 (UTC) Violetviola3

Category:LGBT people by sexual orientation has been nominated for merging

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Category:Christian anti-Zionism has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Eastern Europe in fiction has been nominated for merging

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Category:Eastern European diaspora in the United States has been nominated for merging

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Aromanticism and Asexuality are the A of LGBTQIA+ and Intersex is the I and is inherently an LGBTQIA+ identity

You recently made an erroneous new group of categories that misrepresent certain identities on the LGBTQIA+ community. Aromanticism, Asexuality and Intersex are inherently part of the LGBTQIA+ community and are not separate.

Please undo all the changes you have made with this regard as they are incorrect and misrepresent these identities. The reason why Wikipedia uses LGBT to identity the entirety of the LGBTQIA+ community is a separate topic, of which we have regular discussions for renaming, but it doesn't change the fact that other queer identities are part of it and should not be othered out.

Aromanticism is also NOT a subcategory of Asexuality as you erroneously changed here - please stop this editing immediately and undo all these wrong changes.

I recommend you seek guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies before making any further of these sweeping changes. Raladic (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

@Raladic They are not erroneous as LGBT intersex people and LGBT asexuals people exist. There are plenty of intersex people who identify as cisgender heterosexuals and plenty of asexuals who identify as cis/heteroromantic or straight. Being a gay asexual or a trans asexual or an intersex lesbian is a meaningful intersection of two oppressed groups, a minority within a minority. The changes have already been undone by other editors. But I insist that to erase and eradicate the specificity of queer asexuals and queer intersex people is both deeply homophobic and transphobic. Perhaps not in intent, but certainly in the result. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Your error stems from the misunderstanding that is how we consider LGBT as encompassng all parts of the LGBTQIA+ umbrella per current Wikipedia consensus. It just hasn't been renamed because consensus for what to rename it to (LGBT vs LGBTQ vs LGBTQ+ and so on) has been difficult (you can find a whole lot of history of rename discussions at LGBT).

Since Asexual, Aromantic and and Intersex are inherently part of that community umbrella, it is redundant to say that someone who is Asexual is also LGBTQIA+ with a different category, hence the categories you created misrepresent this and imply that they were not already part of the umbrella by othering them out. Raladic (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Raladic Not all asexuals and aromantic people identify as LGBTQ. Many identify as heteroromantic or heterosexual. In what capacity is an aromantic heterosexual cisgender man part of the LGBT community simply because he doesn't experience romantic attraction to the women he finds sexually attractive? That is an incoherent and bizarre definition that erases aromantic and asexual people who identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer, or otherwise non-hetero and/or non-cis. Likewise, many intersex people identify as cisgender and heterosexual/straight. Not all intersex people identify as part of the LGBTQ community and making these sorts of conflations contributes to erasure of non-cishet people. There's a lot of homophobia, transphobia, and LGBT erasure on Wikipedia. This would require a larger debate within the LGBT WikiProject, and the inclusion of much more content on LGBTQ ace/aro and LGBTQ intersex people to fix. In the interim, heteronormativity and cisnormativity remains firm on Wikipedia. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

By the definition they are part of the LGBTIA+ community, whether they are cis-het or not.

Being Aromantic by itself is still a queer trait as it is not a choice, but an inherent Trait and as such are part of the community, irrespective whether they are cisgender or heterosexual.

For comparison, some people who are Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender also do not identify with the term queer, even though anyone of the LGBTQIA+ community by the definition is so.

Just because some individuals on their personal level may not identify as part of the community, doesn’t make this the universal truth.

The Aspec community specifically coined the Split attraction model to help people understand that you can be heterosexual, but also aromantic and this still does not disqualify you from being part of the LGBTQIA+ community.

As a member of the community myself and the author of both the SAM and Aromanticism article, I can assure you that I have spent extensive time researching it. I spent this time as prior to that, the entire existence of Aromanticism on Wikipedia was relegated to a bit more than a footnote on Romantic Orientation and I have spent considerable effort to increase the visibility for the Aspec community to reduce its Aspec erasure. Raladic (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:LGBT aromantic people

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Category:Conservative Judaism in the United Kingdom has been nominated for discussion

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Pansexuality is not the same as bisexuality

I've reverted your category changes. You can be pansexual and not bisexual. Bisexuality is about attracted to multiple genders, while pansexuality is about being attracted to all genders. Mason (talk) 17:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison Bisexuality was already the parent category for pansexuality. I merely made the subcats match. As you said, bisexuality is attraction to two or more genders. That's the widely accepted term in that community. Thus, pansexuality is part of the bi umbrella. But it seems like as usual, Wikipedia is woefully behind the times. There are a score of terms like omnisexual, polysexual, plurisexual, multisexual. All of those terms fit comfortably under the bi+ umbrella. It makes zero sense to have multiple scattershot categories that serve to detract from navigability rather than help. That's why identities like genderfluid, genderqueer, etc are placed as subcategories of "non-binary" on Wikipedia. It simply makes sense in terms of navigation of content. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:03, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

these are not the same. All genders is not the same as multiple genders. Mason (talk) 12:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison It falls under the same umbrella because "all genders" are "two or more genders". All is more than two. This is a common understanding, not something I invented. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 17:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

You placed pansexuality as being nested within of bisexual, which is the opposite of what you are saying here. Regardless, my point is that your interpretation of what "makes sense" is not in line with how many others view these nested structures. Mason (talk) 18:37, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison I placed the pan biographical categories within the bi biographical categories as subcats, matching the fact that the category for pansexuality was already a subcat of bisexuality. I simply made the categorization consistent. Not all bi people are pansexual, but pansexuality falls under the bi+ umbrella. Here's an example of this very common definition from bi.org: "Terms that fall under the bi umbrella include pansexual (attraction to all genders, with a political emphasis on trans and non-binary gender identities), polysexual and multisexual (attraction to multiple sexes), and omnisexual (attraction to all sexes)." The Human Rights Commission, citing the leading bi activist Robyn Ochs, states that a "broad definition of bisexuality includes people who identify as pansexual, queer, fluid and other labels that suggest potential attraction to more than one gender." This is a mainstream definition, but as usual Wikipedia has a molasses-like ability to keep up with language everyone else has been using for the last 10 to 15 years. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 19:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

If you want to change the parent category structure, I recommend you do so through seeking consensus at CFD and a broader RFD. Rather than unilaterally doing so, like you did in this case. Mason (talk) 21:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison Not unilaterally, as some of the pansexual categories were already subcats of bi categories. But I can certainly do that. I'm unaware of any written consensus supporting the opposite, in deletion/merging discussions or LGBT WikiProject guidelines. Are you? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

You can pretty clearly see some written consensus in the ongoing discussion. However, I'm not going to do your homework for you. Mason (talk) 22:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison So then, no, there is no record of any "deletion/merging discussions or LGBT WikiProject guidelines" stating such a consensus. Thanks for the clarification. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 22:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

"So then, no, there is no record of any "deletion/merging discussions or LGBT WikiProject guidelines"" for the record, that is not what I said. What I said was that it existed, and that others have referenced it in the ongoing discussion and that I was not going to go dig it up for you.Mason (talk) 19:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Transgender men by sexual orientation has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Transgender women by sexual orientation has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Wikipedians by sexuality has been nominated for merging

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Category:LGBT intersex people has been nominated for splitting

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Category:LGBT intersex women has been nominated for splitting

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Category:LGBT intersex men has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Intersex transgender women has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Intersex transgender men has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Intersex gay men has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Intersex transgender people has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Transgender people by sexual orientation has been nominated for merging

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Category:LGBT asexual people has been nominated for merging

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Category:LGBT asexual men has been nominated for merging

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Category:Asexual gay men has been nominated for splitting

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Category:LGBT demisexual people has been nominated for splitting

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Category:LGBT asexual women has been nominated for merging

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Category:LGBT aromantic people has been nominated for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bannock

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Category:Intersex lesbians has been nominated for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:LGBT aromantic people

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Saving Category:Intersex transgender people

I'm glad I found someone else who knows about the erasure of intersex people, transgender people and LGBTQ+ people. I also cannot understand why so many people dishonestly want to disprove the fact that there are many overlaps between groups of LGBTQ+ people and non-LGBTQ+ people, whether they are intersex or endosex, cisgender or transgender, binary or non-binary or agender.

I wonder whether we can gather off-wiki support for opposing this deletion? I'm a member of a discord server for LGBTQ+ people (https://discord.gg/gay) and if you want to join it, we can discuss with many people who are more progressive. — CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 16:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) CrafterNova, please see WP:Canvassing. Contacting a specific set of people offwiki and getting them to express a certain view onwiki goes against Wikipedia's system of consensus decision-making. It's almost always considered disruptive. — ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 17:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Ezlev: Alright. I agree, no off-wiki discussions. I still wonder how on-wiki support can be gathered for opposing such deletions, since many users don't want to listen to intersex people who are not LGBTQ+, such as Betsy Driver, Lisa Lee Dark, Sally Gross, Esther Morris Leidolf, Sarah Gronert, Phoebe Hart, Bonnie Hart. — CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 09:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Category:Western European culture has been nominated for merging

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:North African Jews

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Category:North African people of Jewish descent has been nominated for merging

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Category:Communism in the Arab world has been nominated for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:British Florida people

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Armenian Jews

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Middle Eastern people of Jewish descent

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good question

Not straight forward, and a complex issue. And reading your comments at the Afd, I wish to have nothing to do with it any further. JarrahTree 05:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Nothing to do with what? The question of what determines Indigeneity or the question of whether Indigenous groups can be described as "extinct" or not? The category is your creation; I'm not overly concerned with what it is titled. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 05:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

The category was created in response to your category creation. In WP:AGF I have no interest in any further on wiki discussion at the AFD or anywhere else on wikipedia. JarrahTree 06:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@JarrahTree Elusive but sounds productive. Excellent.

Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 14:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Also as a matter of courtesy, could you please abandon your capitalisation at Australian articles - per the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand/M%C4%81ori_task_force - it is clear the tendency of US standards to overwhelm regional/othercountry variations, strikes again, thanks. JarrahTree 00:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure thing. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

I have re-thought the issue of the afd - and have placed my comment - despite vowing to a few fellow Australian friends that I would not. I believe that the whole category should be deleted, and somewhere else the whole problem of population loss in some groups of people is a whole of wikipedia issue, not USA or Australian or patagonian issue. But then, this is wikipedia, anything could happen. JarrahTree 02:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:West Asian-Jewish diaspora

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Category Paleo-Indian people

Thanks for making this, focused on people not remains. I thought about renaming to something like "persons" or "individuals", but then saw Category:Algonquian peoples --> Category:Algonquin people. So this appears to be the standard way (peoples vs. people). -- GreenC 14:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Fresh day, fresh perspective

"Where flowers bloom so does hope" — Lady Bird Johnson

Hello, ARoseWolf helped me see things slightly differently enough, like shifting a prism, to totally see your perspective about Lillie now. I felt like I was being attacked about what I could or could not see in the article and I couldn't wrap my mind around the conversation. I regret saying that I felt pranked. I can see how that would be hurtful and I apologize. I know more now, as in, when you know better, you do better.

Take good care. Carole –CaroleHenson (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@CaroleHenson Thank you! I apologize if I didn't sufficiently explain myself. We both want to improve Wikipedia. We were talking past each other for a bit, but I'm happy we are on the same page now and working cooperatively. I look forward to working together further. Minoka Hill was a fascinating woman and it seems like her life was even more fascinating than either of us knew. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 07:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I think you are right on all points. Thanks for the lovely message. I look forward to working more with you, too.–CaroleHenson (talk) 09:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for May 16

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Nomination of List of kosher supermarkets for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Deer Clan

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Long Hair Clan

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Clan categories

I appreciate you and appreciate your work here, but please, please consider if a new category helps any users in finding articles they want (the goal of categories). The clan categories are overcategorization. First, clans are often called by many different names or having different English translations, so choosing one over the other is arbitrary (check out the various spellings of Navajo clans in published sources). Second, they are almost all self-identified or original research. Third, these are internal classifications used within tribal communities for their own purposes; they aren't really for outsiders. Fourth, some tribes have clans for adopting newcomers; and a person can have a clan affiliation without being a tribal citizen and, in some instances, clan affiliations can change or be contested. Fifth, some tribes are very upfront with their clan affiliations, like the Seneca, and those can certainly be included in a person's bio, but others are not for diverse reasons. There is so much work needed on Native articles that does not involve categories. Yuchitown (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Yuchitown Thanks for the feedback. Which categories do you think should remain and which do you think should be deleted? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 19:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

It seems like all the clan categories in an English-language Wikipedia would be problematic. But it might be appropriate, for instance, to have Navajo clan categories in the Navajo wikipedia if speakers could provide the most up-to-date orthography. Yuchitown (talk) 20:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Yuchitown Furthermore, when clan affiliation is listed in the text of biographic articles, what sort of language should we be using? What sort of documentation should we look for, if any? I would like to improve coverage of clans, along the lines of Cherokee clans. I was thinking of possible articles like Mohawk clans or Seneca clans. Any advice? What about a stub like this: List of chiefs of the Wolf Clan of the Lenape. Not my creation. Improve? Merge into a Lenape clans article? Merge into the main Lenape article? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 23:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, articles about a particular tribe's clans make sense, since they could include variant spellings and translations for clans. I'm surprised there's not already a Navajo clans article. Looking at the Cherokee clans article, it's surprising how poorly cited that is considering that would be the easiest to find citations for. Moving the clan info out of the Navajo people and Lenape articles would help make those main articles more readable (especially Lenape since it's at 97,904 bytes).

I prodded List of chiefs of the Wolf Clan of the Lenape since I can't imagine anyone ever searching for that term. Crazy all the odd flotsam and jetsam still out there. Yuchitown (talk) 04:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Yuchitown Running this new category by you, in case you had thoughts: Category:Members of state-recognized tribes in the United States. I've been a bit under the weather and on cold medication. My apologies for hastiness. While I am at it, could there be lists or categories for officially designated tribal artisans per the Indian Arts and Crafts Act, or would that be problematic? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I've seen the Category:Members of state-recognized tribes in the United States and that seems like it will be a useful catch-all category. Regarding a potential tribally designated artisans category, I don't think it would be possible to find many secondary, published sources for that status. Not many people have that designation, and they tend to just have letters directly from the tribal councils. Hope your cold passes soon! Yuchitown (talk) 04:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bird Clan of the Cherokee

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wolf Clan of the Oneida

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Categories

Hello, Bohemian Baltimore,

Maybe think twice when you are creating categories to consider whether they need to be created. Then they don't need to be blanked and tagged for deletion. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Hindsight is 20/20. This doesn't feel like a kind comment. I have already received constructive criticism from another editor. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 03:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Deer Clan of the Cherokee

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Muscogee clans

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Paint Clan of the Cherokee

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Lenape clans

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wolf Clan of the Cherokee

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wolf Clan of the Mohawk

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bear Clan of the Mohawk

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Mohawk clans

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Turtle Clan of the Mohawk

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Category:Intersex lesbians has been nominated for merging

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Category:Intersex gay men has been nominated for merging

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Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Middle Eastern anti-racism activists has been nominated for merging

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Category:Women with disabilities has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Lesbians with disabilities has been nominated for merging

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Category:Disability and lesbianism has been nominated for splitting

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Category:18th-century African-American politicians has been nominated for merging

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Greek bisexual people

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:American people who self-identify as being of Occaneechi descent

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:American people who self-identify as being of Aleut descent

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:American people who self-identify as being of Chumash descent

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Category:Jewish American slave owners has been nominated for merging

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Category:Antisemitism in China has been nominated for deletion

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Self-identification

Next time you revert me on a BLP issue without addressing WP:BLPRESTORE after the BLPN discussion on Norby[[1]], I will take it to WP:ARE. I do understand your position and am sympathetic to the impact that legitimising self-identification has on Native communities, but the BLP policies are stringent in that you do not introduce original research outside of what reliable sources say which include categories. Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@Morbidthoughts Will you remove the "American people of Native American descent" category from the article or not? I'm happy to remove it myself. It's absurd to use the category, and there's a wealth of information demonstrating why DNA tests don't determine Indigeneity. The article itself states that there's no way to tell if her alleged DNA is Native American or East Asian. The category needs to go. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I have removed it because DNA testing is an inexact science. However, if a RS declares someone is of Native American or any specific tribal descent without explicitly demonstrating the identification came from the subject, you shouldn't introduce the self-identification qualifier into the article text or category. If no RS discusses the background or ethnicity, you should just remove the mention and the category. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:04, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@Morbidthoughts If a subject's claim to be "of Native American descent" is so flimsy and vague that they can't even pinpoint which of the 500+ tribes they might descend from...then they don't belong in that category at all. It is a container category for a reason. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 08:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

That is using your knowledge (OR) to know how the identification came about. The source, not the subject, may not have cared to name the tribe. Also someone who is of descent but not a member of a tribe may be less inclined to name a tribe since they are not familiar or in touch with the community. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Category:18th-century African-American people by occupation has been nominated for merging

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DYK for Break room

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:White Caribbeans

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:African people of Middle Eastern descent

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Speedy CFDs

heya! I noticed that you tagged a few categories for speedy renaming (e.g. Right to Repair and Brulé people) but didn't add them to the CFD page. as far as I can tell, this means they won't get processed? I've added RTR for you but I wasn't sure about Brulé so you might want to check it/any other categories you've tagge and list them as needed. thanks! Rexo (talk | contributions) 15:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sundown towns in New York (state)

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Category:Civic nationalism has been nominated for deletion

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 28 § Transgender by country

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Category:Ariel (settlement) has been nominated for renaming

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:North American diaspora in the Middle East

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Category:Jainism by city has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Jainism in India by city has been nominated for merging

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 9 § Category:Religion in the Middle East

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Category:Working-class culture in Baltimore has been nominated for deletion

Category:Working-class culture in Baltimore has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Sdkb ^talk 04:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

User:Sdkb/User:Bohemian Baltimore: I would have voted Keep, had this been brought to my attention. Currently we have no way of categorizing predominately lower-class Black neighborhoods in Baltimore. They have a distinct culture, for better or worse. It was labeled "working class". Is there a better idea? They basically fit the definition of a ghetto historically, and arguably currently in some cases. Thus Category:Black ghettos in Baltimore, Maryland per Ghetto#Black_or_African-American_ghettos. There is lots of academic literature about black urban ghettos, and in Baltimore, blacks were intentionally segregated into ghettos. The problem might be in labeling entire neighborhoods "ghetto", but what else would one call places like Sandtown-Winchester, Baltimore and Coppin Heights, Baltimore? -- GreenC 04:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Upper class culture in Maryland has been nominated for deletion

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Proposed deletion of History of the Jews in Benin

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 15 § Category:American people who self-identify as being of Native American descent

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Puerto Rican people who self-identify as being of Taíno descent

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@Bohemian Baltimore please consider proposing a category rename to Category:Puerto Rican people of Taíno descent instead of jsut creating an extremely similar category. Mason (talk) 02:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

@Smasongarrison Please consider that the categories are different. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 03:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Open Orthodox Jews Category

I saw that you have been somewhat involved in tagging Wikipedia pages of people with the 'Open Orthodox Jews' category. It's not clear to me that Open Orthodox Judaism is an identifiable movement. I am not aware of any person who self-identifies as "Open Orthodox."

Though there is an Open Orthodoxy wikipedia page, before 2016, it was just a section on the Avi Weiss page describing an element of his ideology. It was made into its own page in 2016, when opponents of Weiss and his Yeshivat Chovevei Torah attempted to define Weiss' ideology as being outside of Orthodox Judaism as a critique. Consequently, Open Orthodoxy as a term functions as a critique of the progressive elements of Orthodox Judaism. It is an exonym for an undefined group.

Using Open Orthodoxy as a category seems to go agaisnt Wikipedia's general mission to be objective. There are other options for categorizing some of the people currently categorized as Open Orthodox. Some of the people there identify as part of Orthodox Jewish Feminism and others might be part of the Traditional Egalitarian movement. Itsik.isserles (talk) 22:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)