Talk:Demokratia

Merge or redirect suggestion

I don't see much point in a separate article named thus talking about Athenian democracy when demokratia would better serve as a redirect, either to democracy, to a section of it, to direct democracy, or to Athenian democracy. The quoted author, Loren J. Samons II, is using the Greek form of the word in that article to make a distinction, but that in itself does not hold as a base for an encyclopedic article. It appears to me that such an article would just be about that term in that work (or by Samons in general, if he used it repeatedly, or even a group of scholars, if they used it thus consistently). I can't say whether my proposal to merge this into the existing democracy articles may provide them any additions or enhancements, but that at least it could become a redirect to one of them. Who is like God? (talk) 11:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very much agreed. Crashprop (talk) 11:41, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Seperate

The term has taken on a life of its own in part because of this article. The Demokratia movement is growing and includes calls for direct democracy as well as calls for educational requirement for voters. Whatever it has become, it is no longer identical to any other word and is earning its own place. I do not recommend changes to the existing article until additional meaning becomes mainstream. This word is becoming part of a presidential candidates vocabulary. Possibly more than one. Scottprovost (talk) 02:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That just makes it original research, with an agenda no less. Should be removed ASAP. Crashprop (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this page exist?

As others have noted, there is no rationale whatsoever for this page to exist. Its title is merely a cognate of “democracy”, and its content includes nothing noteworthy about that system of government not already covered by the established articles about democracy.

If the article is about democracy, it’s already covered elsewhere. If it’s about direct democracy, that’s covered by its own dedicated article. If it’s specifically about the history of Athenian democracy, that too is covered to a higher standard under its conventional name.

The only other argument for its existence is the one offered on this talk page. If it were true that “the term has taken on a life of its own in part because of this article”, this would strongly suggest that the article amounts to original research.

Finally, the faintly absurd declaration that “the existing article” must be maintained in embryonic form “until additional meaning becomes mainstream” constitutes an admirably frank admission that this work of original research lacks the notability to merit an article.

Do we even disagree… ? Foxmilder (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]