Talk:List of Kurdish dynasties and countries

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Andzevatsi

Please adding Andzevatsi state which was a dynasty of Kurdish ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilok27 (talk • contribs) 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Former dynasties, at a time when Kurdish identity is not firmly attested, described as Kurdish by some modern sources

Corduene (B.C. 189 - 90 Hakkâri)^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]
House of Kayus (226–380-Şehrizor)^[9]^[10]^[11]^[12]^[13]

^ Karl Müller, Klaudiou Ptolemaiou Geographike hyphegesis, 1. cilt, 2. bölüm, Alfredo Firmin Didot, 2012, ISBN 124-999-259-1, s.947
^ Revue des études arméniennes, böl.21, 1988-1989, s.281, By Société des études armeniennes, Fundação Calouste Gulbenkian, Published by Imprimerie nationale, P. Geuthner, 1989.
^ N. Maxoudian, "Early Armenia as an Empire: The Career of Tigranes III, 95–55 BC", Journal of the Royal Central Asian Society, Vol. 39, Issue 2, Nisan 1952, s. 156–63.
^ Ilya Gershevitch, William Bayne Fisher, The Cambridge History of Iran: The Median and Achaemenian Periods, s.964., Cambridge University Press, 1985, ISBN 0-521-20091-1
^ Rawlinson, George, The Seven Great Monarchies of the Ancient Eastern World, Böl. 7, 1871.
^ Grässe, J. G. Th. (1909) [1861]. Orbis latinus; oder, Verzeichnis der wichtigsten lateinischen orts- und ländernamen (Almanca) (2nd bas.). Berlin: Schmidt. OCLC 1301238
^ David McDowall, A modern history of the Kurds, s.515 ., I.B.Tauris, 2004, ISBN 1-85043-416-6
^ Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Africa and the Middle East[1]
^ Izady, Mehrdad R. A Handbook of Kurds, pp. 94-9.
^ J. Limbert. (1968). The Origins and Appearance of the Kurds in Pre-Islamic Iran. Iranian Studies, 1.2: ss. 41-51.
^ G. Asatrian. (2009). Prolegemona to the Study of Kurds. Iran and the Caucasus, 13.1: ss. 1-58.
^ James, Boris. (2006). Uses and Values of the Term Kurd in Arabic Medieval Literary Sources. Seminar at the American University of Beirut, ss. 4, 8, 9.
^ James, Boris. (2006). Uses and Values of the Term Kurd in Arabic Medieval Literary Sources. Seminar at the American University of Beirut, ss. 6-7.

Can’t we add a section about before Islam one

Some states were believed to be ancestors of Kurds before Islam. Barabara201 (talk) 21:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Daseni Emirate

can someone add Daseni Emirate to this list? Jackhanma69 (talk) 12:49, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

lost Kurdish states

Can you please add Principality of Beyazid and Principality of Müküs whites to the list? @HistoryofIran and @Andzevatsi Kayas0706 (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KurdîmHeval. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I want to put this file on the article. Zaman (talk) 12:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. The maps shows dynasties which weren't even Kurdish, such as Zakarid dynasty, Kakuyids, and due to that possibly others as well. The origin of the Shabankara and Germiyanids are disputed per their articles (the latter is described as "Turco-Kurdish" as an alternative, not even "Kurdish"). --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryofIran Both Zakarids and Kakuyids removed, and for the Shabankara and Germiyanids I put (disputed). Zaman (talk) 13:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but the disputed ones should be removed, as they are disputed. The Germiyanids were not even Kurdish at best, but Turco-Kurdish, which is not the same. I would also remove your name from the map. This is supposed to be an Encyclopediac project, don't need our names in the middle of the image. People can already see your name under "Author". HistoryofIran (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, is there a reason you have added "Arabian Gulf"..? WP:COMMON NAME is Persian Gulf. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryofIran Is there any policy supporting "disputed should be removed"? + I'll change the arabian gulf. Zaman (talk) 14:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Karl Müller, Klaudiou Ptolemaiou Geographike hyphegesis, 1. cilt, 2. bölüm, Alfredo Firmin Didot, 2012, ISBN 124-999-259-1, s.947

[2] Revue des études arméniennes, böl.21, 1988-1989, s.281, By Société des études armeniennes, Fundação Calouste Gulbenkian, Published by Imprimerie nationale, P. Geuthner, 1989.

[3] N. Maxoudian, "Early Armenia as an Empire: The Career of Tigranes III, 95–55 BC", Journal of the Royal Central Asian Society, Vol. 39, Issue 2, Nisan 1952, s. 156–63.

[4] Ilya Gershevitch, William Bayne Fisher, The Cambridge History of Iran: The Median and Achaemenian Periods, s.964., Cambridge University Press, 1985, ISBN 0-521-20091-1

[5] Rawlinson, George, The Seven Great Monarchies of the Ancient Eastern World, Böl. 7, 1871.

[6] Grässe, J. G. Th. (1909) [1861]. Orbis latinus; oder, Verzeichnis der wichtigsten lateinischen orts- und ländernamen (Almanca) (2nd bas.). Berlin: Schmidt. OCLC 1301238

[7] David McDowall, A modern history of the Kurds, s.515 ., I.B.Tauris, 2004, ISBN 1-85043-416-6

[8] Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Africa and the Middle East[1]

[9] Izady, Mehrdad R. A Handbook of Kurds, pp. 94-9.

[10] J. Limbert. (1968). The Origins and Appearance of the Kurds in Pre-Islamic Iran. Iranian Studies, 1.2: ss. 41-51.

[11] G. Asatrian. (2009). Prolegemona to the Study of Kurds. Iran and the Caucasus, 13.1: ss. 1-58.

[12] James, Boris. (2006). Uses and Values of the Term Kurd in Arabic Medieval Literary Sources. Seminar at the American University of Beirut, ss. 4, 8, 9.

[13] James, Boris. (2006). Uses and Values of the Term Kurd in Arabic Medieval Literary Sources. Seminar at the American University of Beirut, ss. 6-7.

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