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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by ZLEA (talk | contribs) at 15:44, 3 December 2024 (777F). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

December 2024

Information icon Hello, I'm BilCat. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, General Electric GE90, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. BilCat (talk) 03:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Boeing 777. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. ZLEA T\C 14:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop your disruptive editing.

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at General Electric GE90. ZLEA T\C 15:14, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Its not vandalism, Fnlayson has adjusted some of my edits but not reverted like you have. Plus some information on GE90 is outdated since 777 Classics production has ended and no 777-300 was ordered with GE90. 24.206.65.142 (talk) 15:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't speculate on Fnlayson's reasoning. If they're truly fine with your edits, they'll say so. We also need sources that explicitly state that no 777-300 were ordered with the GE90. The FAA TCDS is not enough, as it makes no mention of orders and more engines can be added with a Supplemental Type Certificate (STC). - ZLEA T\C 15:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also noticed that the specifications table for 777-300 only lists the RR Trent 800 and PW 4000.
I'm not saying the 777-300 was equipped with the GE90, just that you have not provided any sources that actually support your claims. If you can provide a reliable source that explicitly (not implicitly through omission) states that no 777-300s were ordered with the engine, then you can add it to the article. - ZLEA T\C 15:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

777F

Please do not add unofficial designations to for the 777F to the Boeing 777 article. The existence of the unofficial "777-200LRF" designation is already covered in the article, and there is no need to "make it clear that it refers to original production 777F" since no other variant has been referred to by that designation. - ZLEA T\C 14:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fnlayson is okay with use of 777-200LRF, plus these sources makes reference to 777-200LRF versus the 777-300ERSF https://leehamnews.com/2018/07/17/farnborough-boeing-global-services-ponders-777-300er-p2f-program/ https://www.atlasairworldwide.com/boeing-fleet/777-200lrf/ https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers/kalitta-to-be-launch-operator-of-777-300ersf-converted-freighter/140852.article 24.206.65.142 (talk) 15:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If Fnlayson is okay with prominently using unofficial designations in place of the official designation, they have not made it clear. - ZLEA T\C 15:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you have a problem with the way Boeing designates its aircraft, you will have to bring it up with Boeing. Like it or not, no amount of operators using "777-200LRF" will change the fact that it is unofficial and improper. No such aircraft has appeared in official Boeing or FAA documents. - ZLEA T\C 15:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both designations are correct. 777F is Boeing's original launch name, however numerous cargo operators and the conversion company have used 777-200LRF to specifically distinguish it from the 777-300ERSF aftermarket conversion, plus there is an upcoming 777-8F.
What part of no amount of operators using "777-200LRF" will change the fact that it is unofficial and improper don't you understand? Give me one example of Boeing or the FAA referring to the 777F as "777-200LRF", that's all I'm asking. - ZLEA T\C 15:44, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]