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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Far-right terrorism in Australia was copied or moved into National Socialist Network with this edit on 19 February 2022. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

2023 May 13th additions

Hello I would like to make a proposal to expand the May 13th paragraph, including the facts that 1. Escort was provided to the Neo-Nazis. 2. The Neo-Nazis were forced off the Steps of Parliament near the start of the protest/before the protest began, and 3. Objects other than Glass Jars were thrown at the Neo-Nazis. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLHjfWvmbdQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwIHlrPPn6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHmsjP63KsM 120.159.80.88 (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of the YouTube clips you have provided, the first states that objects were thrown at the neo-Nazis, the second states that glass bottles and tin cans were thrown at the neo-Nazis and the third states (twice) that objects were thrown at the neo-Nazis. At no point in any of the clips is it stated that _ANY_ objects were thrown at the neo-Nazis _WHILE_ they were being escorted by police. As this material pertains to living people, Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people applies. Per WP:BLPDELETE "Biographical material about a living individual that is not compliant with this policy should be improved and rectified; if this is not possible, then it should be removed". Do not restore the material again unless you have obtained consensus. TarnishedPath^talk 01:42, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corowa and Terrorist Threats

These villains have been spreading false information over authorities removing children of far-right criminals in the United Kingdom, and Sewell has threatened terrorist attacks if Australian children are removed as well. Source here. Corowa also had a neo-Nazi rally on 12 October, although the group has not yet been confirmed as the NSN. Source Here. 2001:8003:ADA6:CB00:EDFD:F98E:31C0:3CD9 (talk) 13:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi) article with that content. I'm busy working on that article and I'll work out at a later time how much of the content to include here. TarnishedPath^talk 13:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restored Material on Cafe Gummo Incident

TarnishedPath, your approach to this article is frustrating and inconsistent. I made the initial edits to improve the article based on clear issues with relevance and verifiability. You reverted everything without justification, forcing me to edit again, this time proving with hard evidence that the claim about someone “hiding in the theatre” was completely fabricated and not in source 24. After that, you backpedaled, removing the fabricated claim but restored all other problematic content, as if I now need to go through this process point by point just to clean up basic inaccuracies.

The claim about knives: This is a witness statement in Nine News, unverified by police or any corroborating evidence. Per WP:UNDUE, Wikipedia does not amplify unverified claims, even if they’re mentioned in otherwise reliable sources. It does not belong in the article.

The fundraiser amount: This detail has no relevance to NSN or the incident’s context. Including it violates WP:RELEVANCE, as the focus should remain on NSN’s actions, not unrelated aspects of the event.

Instead of admitting the initial reversion was premature and without proper consideration, you’ve resorted to nitpicking, restoring irrelevant or unverifiable details piecemeal. This behavior is unproductive, and your interpretation of WP:ONUS is flawed. The burden of proof is on you to justify why this material meets Wikipedia’s standards for inclusion, not on me to clean up poor edits one at a time.

Frankly, I’m here on the talk page now so you can explain your reasoning and admit you restored content that doesn’t meet Wikipedia’s standards, instead of dragging this into a tedious back-and-forth. I’m not playing this game of fixing fabricated or irrelevant content one edit at a time just for you to nitpick what’s left. Let’s hear your justification for keeping these details, or we can move forward properly by addressing the actual problems with the content. Evoren (talk) 15:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]