User talk:Pakalomattam

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Notability of പകലൊമററം

Welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome your help to create new content, but your recent additions (such as പകലൊമററം) are considered nonsense. Please refrain from creating nonsense articles. If you want to test things out, edit the sandbox instead. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Ksbrown^talk 19:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't create articles with titles that aren't in English characters, such as പകലൊമററം. This is the English Wikipedia. --DanielCD 22:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Malayalam Wikipedia

So is there a Wikipedia in the malayalam language? -- Samuel Pakalomattam 14 February 02007

here. I peeked and found it too. Glad we were able to track it down! --DanielCD 23:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Example.jpg etc.

I deleted the Exmaple.jpg et.al. simply because these are added by the editing toolbar, thus often articles contain them by accidental clicks on the toolbar or by editing experiments. To find these articles there should be as few other articles using them, so the new pages which need to be checked are easily visible at e.g. Image:Example.jpg. If you really need an empty image you can use Image:Example.png instead. andy 14:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

chcha

ച്ച not ചച, all these should be on the Malayalam script page. ൩ക-- Samuel Pakalomattam 15 February 02007

no prob!

im using a spellchecker =) †Bloodpack† 14:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stick to four digit dates!

Hi. I noticed you edited several articles to have five-digit dates for the year instead of the standard four ("02007" instead of "2007"). Please do not change dates like this; Wikipedia convention, as well as ISO 8601 and various features of the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, requires that dates be written with four digits only. Thank you. ~Matticus ^T_C 14:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell me how wikipedia is affected by the five digit dates. If you will check, it's only there in the articles section which I added. I am not changing anybody else's year format, unless I am changing the section also. -Samuel Pakalomattam 21/02/02007

The Manual of Style (dates and numbers) asks editors to use the conventions listed there for dates. It is convention to link days and years in articles (like this: February 21 2007), and these are linked to articles that list events for those years, something which doesn't work if the date has a leading zero (you'll see 02007, for example, just produces a redlink). Templates such as {{cite}} also expect dates to be listed in the ISO format YYYY-MM-DD, which is converted by the software into a more readable form, which again would be broken by five digit dates. In any case, it's proper that editors should all follow the manual of style for things like this, so as to minimise any confusion. ~Matticus ^T_C 15:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Manual of Style (dates and numbers) says nothing about not using five digit years.-Samuel Pakalomattam 21/02/02007

It doesn't say anything about not using the Japanese imperial year system and writing "Heisei 19" instead of "2007" either, but that doesn't mean editors should just arbitrarily start using that system wherever they feel like it. Every single example of a year after 999 Common Era in the Manual of Style is shown using four digits. The only uses of five-digit dates on the whole of Wikipedia are in the Long Now Foundation and related articles, and then only to explain their ideas and give them context ("the group writes years using five digits instead of four: 02007 instead of 2007"). In normal use Wikipedia uses the ISO date system of four digit years, because that's what the software expects, and that's what readers and other editors expect. ~Matticus ^T_C 21:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well since you agree it doesn't say anything about not using five digit numbers, now it is just a question of why you feel the need to change what I am writing because you think others expect a four digit year format. If you think so. then get the manual changed. Until then it is just your word against mine. If you would be so kind to change it back, I would appreciate it. Since you did all the changes in one day, I will give you til Saturday to either change the manual or change back all of the four digit years to five. I will on Saturday, Lord willing I am still here, change back my edits back to five digits. Others whose five digit years that you changed can argue for themselves. If I understand it, you and I are both equal in this role of editor, and your words don't mean any more then mine. If I am worng, and your words mean more, then you have til Saturday to show me.-Samuel Pakalomattam 22/02/02007

First, they are not "your" edits; anything you submit to Wikipedia is free to be edited by other contributors. Second, it is not my sole opinion versus yours, it is the community consensus versus yours. Thirdly, the manual of style explicitly states how to format years and gives examples. To quote directly from the Manual of Style (dates and numbers): "use four digits for years and decades after AD 999 (the same for BC)". There it is, in black and white, in a document authored by community consensus. If you want to petition a change in the consensus to explicitly allow five-digit years, then start a discussion about it in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). Until the consensus changes, please use four-digit years. ~Matticus ^T_C 10:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Consensus among all editors involved should be the guiding policy in this situation (it is a policy). Please read that policy, it's not too long and shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes. Unless the consensus of all editors involved agree that an exception to the requested 4-digit year system would improve the article, I would agree that the 4-digit system should be used. Remember also, that you don't own the work that you contribute. Other editors may change your additions in the interest of improving Wikipedia, as you may do to the additions of others. Sancho McCann (talk) 19:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lakewood Church

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the external links you added to the page Lakewood Church does not comply with our guidelines for external links. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the links should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting them. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Wikipedia is NOT a link farm. --Evb-wiki 16:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And you are even now deleting the links from other articles with more then two links?? But you give me too much credit, some of those links you deleted were not added by me. -Samuel Pakalomattam 27/02/02007

Next time I see someone add multiple external links (say 15) I certainly will. And . . . yes, they were all yours. (Check the page history.) --Evb-wiki 18:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for Image:Mtt.jpg

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Stop Mixing Multiple Languages

Attn Pakalomattam: Thank you for the contributions you made to Wikipedia in the past. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia used by a large web community for research and other purposes in the English language. Please consider this fact and Stop Mixing Multiple Languages while editing. There is a Wikipedia Malayalam website where you can translate the whole text and show your skills.