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Welcome to my talk page I use the name Cullen328 on Wikipedia, but you can call me "Jim" because that's my real first name. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" or "Add topic" at the top of this page. I keep the old comments from July and August of 2009 that follow the "Contents" here, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome when I first started editing Wikipedia.
The importance of a friendly greeting
Hello and welcome to my talk page. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" at the top of this page. I keep the comments that follow from July and August of 2009 readily visible, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome here on Wikipedia when I first started editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC
Please offer your thoughts
I would appreciate comments and suggestions on any contributions I make. I am learning.Cullen328 (talk) 03:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nice work on Jules Eichorn. He's been needing an article for a while. Will Beback talk 06:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- If I may suggest, now that you've posted the Eichorn article the draft below might be deleted. It's your talk page to do with as you like, but it's a bit hard to edit around.
- As for formatting and pictures, a good way to learn is to look around at other articles to see what you think looks best. It can be helpful to break up long blocks of text into subsections. Perhaps it'd be possible to split the biography into two or three eras. Other than that, the formatting is usually kept fairly plain. As for photos, it's easy to upload them: the trick is in finding photos with appropriate licensing. If you have any personal photos then those'd be fine. There are might be pictures of the peaks he did first ascents on in the Wikicommons. File:Cathedral Peak.png is a so-so pic of Eichorn Pinnacle.
- As before, feel free to ask if you have any questions. There are several editors here who are mountaineers or just admirers of the Sierra, so you're in good company. Will Beback talk 21:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- PS: Many editors create "sandbox" pages for drafting articles. For example, User talk:Cullen328/Sandbox. Will Beback talk 00:17, 1 August 2009
Your climber biographies
Hey Jim, just wanted to say welcome and thanks for your contributions to the Sierra Nevada climbing history articles. You're filling a niche that's been missing here, I look forward to working with you. --Justin (talk) 11:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll second that. Nice work on Allen Steck and welcome to Wikipedia. I don't know who you are planning to write up next but if your taking requests I think Peter Croft (climber) could really use a page. If you ever have any questions please ask. Thanks again for your great additions.--OMCV (talk) 02:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Justin and OMCV. I am beginning work on Tom Frost and Glen Dawson. Comments on Norman Clyde would be welcomed. I will defintely read up on Peter Croft, OMCV. I am still "learning the ropes" in Wikipedia, to use a climbing analogy, and have all sorts of things in mind. My biggest challenge right now is getting permission to use images. My next biggest challenge is hiking to the top of Mt. Whitney with my wife in ten days - she's never been above 12,000 feet except for the train ride up Pikes Peak. As she's 56 and developing arthritis in her toes, it will be an accomplishment if she (and I) complete the Class 1 feat. Jim Heaphy (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Debra and I made it to the summit of Mt. Whitney at 2:20 PM on Friday, September 11. Jim Heaphy (talk) 00:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Happy New Year
Happy New Year 2021 I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
working on a new page
hello jim, hope you are doing well. i am a beginner on wikipedia but i am auto correction user. i want to write an article on a ngo which is working very good in there respective field. a friend of mine wrote a article on that topic but it got deleted due to less third party source. can you suggest me something how to write an article which won't get deleted, also i have some credible third party source so i want to ask how can i mention them because they are external links. Devanshusharma569 (talk)devanshusharma569
Happy St. Patrick's Day
Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
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Request of Help on "Just the Facts" Tone
Hi Jim,
I am very new to Wikipedia. I got your feedback on the draft article located under PhoCoHaNoi. Thanks so much for your comments. I would greatly appreciate if you would spare some valuable time to highlight those parts from the draft that I need to pay close attentions to regarding the aspect that you raised. I know it would be a long shot to ask if you would even consider providing specific examples by directly editing them on the draft.
Lastly, I still do not know on how to submit the revision for review. I do not see any obvious buttons or pull-down menus from the Sandbox setting that would be able to allow to submit the article for review.
Thank you so much.
PhoCoHaNoi
- Hello, PhoCoHaNoi. I am not going to edit the draft myself, because I want this to be a learning exercise for you. Here are a few examples of unacceptable wording:
- "celebrating the 73-year history of outstanding men and women"
- "pioneering contributions"
- "sustained leadership and strategic vision"
- "Exceptional services to innovation ecosystem"
- "stimulating small business innovation, meeting the Air Force and DoD R&D needs, broadening participation in innovation and entrepreneurship, and boosting commercialization"
- " So, as Dr. Pham looked back now, he brought systems-theoretic science and control engineering principles, together with teamwork and interdisciplinary to bear fruition in solving warfighter engineering problems, various areas of specific focus for increased activities in space control autonomy and space domain awareness."
- It is not the job of a Wikipedia editor (you) to praise a person. Every trace of this non-neutral language must be removed. A Wikipedia article should never say "Person A is great!" Instead, it should say "Reliable source C reports that Expert B says that Person A is great", along with a reference to Reliable source C.
- As for how to submit your draft, I will explain that when the draft complies with the neutral point of view. Cullen328 Let's discuss it
Sending Messages to Other Editors
Hi Jim. I will deeply appreciate anything that you can do to help. How can I find out about other editors and send them messages? I recently looked for an article about The Italian Coffee Company that I had read years ago. However, I could not find it. I believe that this article should be available. I am a new editor and I have a big learning curve ahead of me. Maybe you can post to my talk page. I am user Mojosa17. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Invitation to Local Wikimania Event in San Francisco this Friday
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Debate to delete a Category
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Dave Plummer
The quack I am hearing is a lot like the quack of the Dave Plummer Troll, especially the assumption that a press release by a prosecutor is a reliable source establishing guilt, but for some strange reason a press release by a defense attourney isn't a reliable source for the person being innocent. Do you think a topic ban would be apopropriate here? -Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 03:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Guy Macon Alternate Account. The reference added was a Forbes article not a press release. I do not see the relevance of a defense attorney's press release to this specific matter at this time, though I am aware that you have made that defense attorney's press release argument several times. The glaring weakness of the Forbes piece is that is it is almost entirely about another company and mentions one of Plummer's companies in passing at the very end. To me, the fundamental BLP issue that is of great concern to me is the ongoing attempts to portray Plummer as a criminal. I am prepared to block any editor who tries that. But the recent edits do not try to do that. I am 100% in favor of your pursuit of accuracy but to be frank, I do not consider conflating of a Plummer owned .com with a Plummer owned LLC to be anywhere near as significant and problematic as attempts to call Plummer a criminal. So, I need better evidence of current ongoing disruption to start handing out blocks and topic bans, not one mediocre edit nearly two weeks after I semi-protected the article. Cullen328 (talk) 05:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I will try to adjust my hair trigger to be less sensative (smile). --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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User:Mackeyedits keeps making the same exact edits (adding uncited membership information about their organization, the Machapunga Tribe of North Carolina, which only has a Facebook page with 15 followers) to the Machapunga page. Back in September, you said you could semi-protect if problems persisted, which now they have. I pinged you on the talk page a couple of days ago. Is there anything that can be done about User:Mackeyedits? Thanks for your time. Yuchitown (talk) 18:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Yuchitown. Since the editor is close to being autoconfirmed, I do not think that semi-protection would help much. Instead, I pageblocked Mackeyedits from Machapunga, although the editor is free to make edit requests at Talk: Machapunga. Sorry that I did not respond to your ping. I was unusually busy at that time. Cullen328 (talk) 19:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries! Thanks so much. Yuchitown (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from AnastasisTime on User:AnastasisTime (19:29, 23 November 2024)
How can i create a site --AnastasisTime (talk) 19:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, AnastasisTime. What do you mean by a "site"? If you are asking how to write a Wikipedia article, then please read and study Your first article. It is challenging for a new editor. Cullen328 (talk) 21:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps you neglected to mark the unblock request here as accepted? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 19:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done, Jpgordon. Explaining my reasoning to the editor and at ANI was my first priority. Cullen328 (talk) 20:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- OK! I just sometimes forget such things. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from S31banko (05:32, 25 November 2024)
How do I create my own article about a rapper? --S31banko (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, S31banko. Spend several weeks making edits to improve existing articles, and learning how Wikipedia works. Study articles about other rap and hip hop performers that are rated Good articles and Featured articles to see how they are referenced and written, and what will be expected of you.
- Examples of Good articles include Kendrick Lamar and Sean Combs and Positive Black Soul and Beyoncé and Chief Keef and Alesha Dixon and DJ Kool Herc and Dr. Dre and Drake (musician) and Eazy-E and Lauryn Hill and Kesha and Lil Ugly Mane and M.I.A. (rapper) and Sharissa and Timbaland and Vanilla Ice.
- Featured articles, which are our very best, include Aaliyah and The Notorious B.I.G. and DJ AM. You should strive for the quality of these articles, and in particular, you should pay attention to the references to the reliable sources at the end of each of those articles. The references are the backbone of an acceptable article.
- Read and study Your first article. You can start assembling a list of published reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to the rapper in question. Referencing for beginners explains how to properly format them. Once you have assembled your references, you can start writing prose that summarizes them. Good luck. Cullen328 (talk) 06:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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Request page protection
Hi Admin, good day. I'm writing this letter to request protection for the page on Miss Planet International, as it has been targeted by vandals who are repeatedly making disruptive edits. To provide some context, the competition was recently held and has become a controversial topic. This is especially due to reports of contestants physically hurting each other during the event, stemming from misunderstandings. Some individuals from other countries have made unconstructive edits, such as changing "Indonesia" to "Indognesia" (a derogatory term). Miss Planet International has become a focal point of their frustrations, particularly following the announcement of a new titleholder. Unfortunately, I am unable to undo the recent unconstructive edits as I do not have the necessary permissions. While I have managed to address some edits, it is very challenging when multiple vandals work together. Even when I tag the page as "in use" to avoid edit conflicts, they seem to disregard it. I have also left warnings on their talk pages, but they do not seem to take them seriously. Thank you for your assistance. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 18:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Rc ramz. I do not see enough recent vandalism to justify protection. You need to start using edit summaries so that an administrator can investigate what caused you to "revert vandalism" for example. Provide a diff of the "Indognesia" vandalism and I will either warn or block that editor. Please be aware that I will be editing less often in the next few days because of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States. Cullen328 (talk) 20:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, here's the recent edit about the "Indognesia" dog a a deregatory term among pageant fans to certain country by unregistered account. Thank you admin for ur urgent response, greatly appreciated. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, I have indefinitely blocked that IP from editing Miss Planet International. Cullen328 (talk) 03:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you admin for taking action and keep things under control regarding this edits matter. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 04:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Admin as of now its so frustrating that when I currently checked the page again vandals started again you can check it yourself and the page is now distorted in titleholder section to edition and its like the unregistered account playing to make it fun and I'm not going to revert that now as I don't have the power to do so you can decide of what's the solution whether to protect it or not just to avoid unregistered account from disrupting the page... even the citation I provided with Indonesia has been deleted which from IDN Times an Indonesian news media outlet...hope you can help again in this matter. Thank you. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 06:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- The editors has frustrations about the results that it was rigged and in pageant terminology "cooking show" so they are editing without knowing the rules and policies here in Wikipedia and what this community stands for... 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 06:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, you do have the ability to revert disruptive edits to the article. Simply go to the article history, find the most recent OK version, click on that and save it. Problem solved. As for me, I have ZERO interest in beauty pageants and have no idea what rigging and "cooking show" actually means in this context although it sounds like cheating. I assume that various forms of cheating are commonplace in this type of event rife with boosterism, promotionalism and sexualization. As an adminstrator, I will help prevent vandalism and disruptive editing. As an ordinary editor, I do not care about beauty pageants in the slightest, so please do not expect me to get involved with the content. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- ok thank you I'll do that. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:09, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Winner of Miss Planet International 2024 is United Arab Emirates while Indonesia was awarded the newly added title "Miss Angel Planet 2024". 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, you do have the ability to revert disruptive edits to the article. Simply go to the article history, find the most recent OK version, click on that and save it. Problem solved. As for me, I have ZERO interest in beauty pageants and have no idea what rigging and "cooking show" actually means in this context although it sounds like cheating. I assume that various forms of cheating are commonplace in this type of event rife with boosterism, promotionalism and sexualization. As an adminstrator, I will help prevent vandalism and disruptive editing. As an ordinary editor, I do not care about beauty pageants in the slightest, so please do not expect me to get involved with the content. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- The editors has frustrations about the results that it was rigged and in pageant terminology "cooking show" so they are editing without knowing the rules and policies here in Wikipedia and what this community stands for... 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 06:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rc ramz, I have indefinitely blocked that IP from editing Miss Planet International. Cullen328 (talk) 03:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, here's the recent edit about the "Indognesia" dog a a deregatory term among pageant fans to certain country by unregistered account. Thank you admin for ur urgent response, greatly appreciated. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
contestants physically hurting each other
– So my dream of avideo game featuring an intercaste beauty pageant in which contestants beat on one another with folding chairs in a ring
[1] is actually beginning to come true! EEng 20:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- EEng, my one foray into editing about professional wrestling was to expand Dick the Bruiser, who I knew about as a child. Check out what happened at Madison Square Garden on November 19, 1957. I do not know if any beauty queens were involved. Cullen328 (talk) 20:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- At 261 pounds it's hard to see how much more he could be expanded. EEng 03:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- EEng, my one foray into editing about professional wrestling was to expand Dick the Bruiser, who I knew about as a child. Check out what happened at Madison Square Garden on November 19, 1957. I do not know if any beauty queens were involved. Cullen328 (talk) 20:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Beware, EEng. I am 6'-3" and pushing 250 pounds. Fortunately, I have more teeth than DtB. Cullen328 (talk)
- As for the Detroit venue, EEng, I saw the Rolling Stones perform at Olympia Stadium in Detroit on November 24, 1969. I was a 17 year old hippie. Cullen328 (talk) 03:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Beware, EEng. I am 6'-3" and pushing 250 pounds. Fortunately, I have more teeth than DtB. Cullen328 (talk)
November music
I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday's, and it was good. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, may your friend's memory be for a blessing. I am sorry for your loss. Cullen328 (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, and I am sure his memory is. The loss is harder for his family. The granddaughter (age 2) was a blessing throughout the ceremony. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
December music
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I don't want to interrupt the beards-stories, so continue here. Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Protected Teahouse
Hello, Jim. I saw that you were a host on the Teahouse, and that you were open for questions. I am a new user, and had a few questions about this.
First, when talking about pseudoscience, do we say that it is false, or that it is unscientific? Though they seem similar, they are not the same. I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that Wikipedia asks you not to say pseudoscience is objectively false but rather it is rejected by most scientists.
Next question: why is the teahouse protected? I apologize if this seems like a complaint, but it is supposed to be for new users, who cannot access it once it is protected. Is there a way to reverse this, or at least ask the question somewhere else?
Thank you so much. I would really appreciate your answers. Lenderthrond (talk) 00:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Lenderthrond. Wikipedia articles summarize what the preponderance of reliable sources say about a topic. So, if reliable sources extensively say that some notion is false, then so too will the Wikipedia article. If reliable sources extensively say that some notion is unscientific, then so too will the Wikipedia article. Maybe both. If reliable sources disagree, then the Wikipedia article will reflect and summarize that disagreement.
- As for the semi-protection of the Teahouse, that is sad but necessary. The current semi-protection lasts only six hours. The fact of the matter is that there is a highly motivated troll operating in the past few months who despises Wikipedia as a whole and a certain group of administrators, including me, in particular. That group has been subject to very frequent and intense and dedicated profane attacks including death threats and lengthy diatribes for months. I have a very thick skin and can separate credible death threats from deranged ranting. Other victims may lack those skills. It is very disruptive. This pathetic person uses the Teahouse and various administrative noticeboards for maximum visibility, necessitating semi-protection. I wish this person would get another hobby or get therapy, but as long as they continue their attacks, brief semi-protection will be required from time to time. Cullen328 (talk) 03:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response! Lenderthrond (talk) 18:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Request for professional assistance
Hello Jim! I have drafted an article (my first ever) and have been advised that the draft needs substantial changes made (fair enough). How can I engage your services? Kind regards, Stephen Walter Stephen Walter 2024 (talk) 23:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Stephen Walter 2024. This is about Draft:John Haber, which was speedy deleted because the page "seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view". That indicates very serious problems with your draft. As I say on my user page, "I do some training and consulting about editing off-Wikipedia, but do not engage in any paid editing on Wikipedia."
- You should start by reading the Neutral point of view which forbids any promotional editing and Verifiability which requires that content summarize reliable published sources. Also read the notability guideline for people and WP:Your first article. Those links should give you all the information you need. If you believe that you need training and consulting services at that point, contact me off-Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 00:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to provide feedback
Inspired by Worm That Turned's re-RfA where he noted administrators don't get a lot of feedback or suggestions for improvement, I have decided to solicit feedback. I'm reaching out to you as you are currently one of the users I've selected as part of my recall process. I hope you will consider taking a few moments to fill out my feedback form. Clicking on the link will load the questions and create a new section on my user talk. Thanks for your consideration. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, I expressed my deep concerns to you by email during the Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Admins and being paid to advise on editing discussion, and I have nothing more to say other than what I wrote in those emails. I still feel the same way. Cullen328 (talk) 17:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Cullen. I should have noted that when I left this message as I had not forgotten it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – December 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).
Interface administrator changes
- Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
- Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.
- Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.
- The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
- An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.
Sorry to drag you into this...
But you are technically involved.
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, Ad Orientem, I have already read your post and will both do some additional research and collect my thoughts before commenting. I now remember trying to explain basic behavioral norms to that person. Cullen328 (talk) 04:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Question about conduct of an admin editor
Should I continue to try to talk to an admin on their user page if they pasted Template:Archive at the top of my comment on their user page, effectively blocking me from replying? I think they are being uncivil in article talk pages and I tried talking to them on their talk page about it. The admin literally said "nasty and suspicious" as a complete sentence in their comment and then applied the template with an explanation of "enough of this". I feel like I need a neutral set of eyes on this conversation and some advice.
They have a statement on their user page: "Rejoice when your callow opponent posts to your mature, well-watched User Talk page: the bat signal is now aloft." The admin has been on Wikipedia for 18 years and I am a newcomer trying to suggest changes that the admin has labeled as Wikipedia:PROFRINGE. I realize that my edits on articles might deserve to be reverted, but is it normal for admins to behave like this? Thanks. Lardlegwarmers (talk) 21:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Bon courage is not an admin.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Lardlegwarmers, as Bbb23 pointed out, Bon courage is not an administrator. I agree that the response you got was rude. As for whether it is normal, that is difficult to quantify. Editors who spend a lot of time on controversial fringe topics are often known to be curt and dismissive with editors they perceive, rightly or wrongly, as pro-fringe. The article in question has been subject to massive disruption for years, and people get jaded. As for trying to discuss the matter on that editor's talk page, that is a bad idea. Any editor is permitted to ask other editors to stay off their talk page. Honor their request, with the exception of formal notices required by policy. Cullen328 (talk) 22:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. It seems like I could:
- 1) Avoid topics where this editor is active (let him win)
- 2) Post a formal notice on their page, or
- 3) Proceed as is and accept that so-and-so makes rude comments once in awhile.
- I will admit that I am actually pro-fringe, in the sense that I don't trust the scientific authorities that Wikipedia relies upon in this particular domain. Maybe I'll just let Wikipedia be what it is and look for a different place to try to set the record straight. Lardlegwarmers (talk) 23:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lardlegwarmers, as for #1, this is not a competition with winners and losers. It is a project to summarize what the best reliable sources say about various topics. As for #2, the formal notice must be specifically required by policy, which does not seem to be the case here, so please do not do that. As for trying to set the record straight, please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, and especially Righting great wrongs. If scientific acceptance of the lab leak theory changes significantly, then so too will Wikipedia's coverage of that theory. If you do not trust mainstream science, then it is exceptionally difficult to contribute in that topic area. There is always the option of contributing regarding less controversial topics such asteroids and butterflies and the history of your home town and so on. Personally, I rarely make major contribtions to highly controversial topics although I occasionally offer a few words of advice. Cullen328 (talk) 00:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. It seems like I could:
- Hello, Lardlegwarmers, as Bbb23 pointed out, Bon courage is not an administrator. I agree that the response you got was rude. As for whether it is normal, that is difficult to quantify. Editors who spend a lot of time on controversial fringe topics are often known to be curt and dismissive with editors they perceive, rightly or wrongly, as pro-fringe. The article in question has been subject to massive disruption for years, and people get jaded. As for trying to discuss the matter on that editor's talk page, that is a bad idea. Any editor is permitted to ask other editors to stay off their talk page. Honor their request, with the exception of formal notices required by policy. Cullen328 (talk) 22:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Who you Mentor me
I am new here. Would you mentor me? MrMonkEdits (talk) 05:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I am sorry, MrMonkEdits, but I am not willing to make that commitment. You can ask for help at the Teahouse or at the Help Desk. You can also ask me questions. Good luck. Cullen328 (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- trust me to always ask questions MrMonkEdits (talk) 05:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Seeking assist in WP:ANI
Hey there. Am wondering if you could help take a look at this case. Said IP address has persisted with disruptive behaviour and personal attacks, and I do think such behaviour is really unbecoming of an editor. Thank you! hundenvonPG (talk) 07:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- HundenvonPenang, I think the other editors commenting there have the matter under control. I have nothing to add at this time. Cullen328 (talk) 07:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- HundenvonPenang, after checking out the personal attack, I warned the IP editor. Cullen328 (talk) 08:00, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Cullen328. Will see how this goes, as I believe it's not the end yet. hundenvonPG (talk) 08:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey Cullen328, said IP address in Talk:List of tallest buildings in Johor Bahru appears to have used much ad hominem language and accused me of "creating some statistics on my own like the claimed 'second largest agglomeration' fraud".
- I fully doubt if that IP address has any intention of keeping arguments civil. hundenvonPG (talk) 09:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was saying that I am not making up any statistics on my own, why is there a need to overthink? @Cullen328, I suggest you go and read the discussion page, he is taking some words out of context apprarently. Also, I didn't accuse you of saying I was being disruptive initially, do you think the word 'disruptive' is civil to use? 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Out of context?
- Ill-founded accusations of "fraud"? Based on what? He says, she says, you say? hundenvonPG (talk) 09:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop taking things out of context, more importantly, @Cullen328 the user still didn't reply on the talk page. 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- "creating some statistics on my own like the claimed 'second largest agglomeration' fraud"
- Then who wrote this? Taking out of context? hundenvonPG (talk) 09:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop taking things out of context, more importantly, @Cullen328 the user still didn't reply on the talk page. 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I genuinely do not think that accusing me that I am being disruptive is a civil word to use for anyone, especially you never initiated the discussion in the talk page in the very beginning and without any substantiated evidences. 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Look who's talking about "civil".
- "You seem to have pretend not to see it due to some inferiority complex"
- "This is indeed very sad and is a type of inferiority complex. I feel you."
- "Civil", indeed. hundenvonPG (talk) 09:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Initially you were the one saying I am disruptive right, way before the "inferiority complex", when I was just trying to state a fact? 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- "State a fact"? With no reliable sourcing? What fact?
- Completely disregarding WP:EDIT, and WP is supposed to take your patterns as not disruptive? hundenvonPG (talk) 09:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, WP:HOUNDING. hundenvonPG (talk) 09:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Initially you were the one saying I am disruptive right, way before the "inferiority complex", when I was just trying to state a fact? 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was saying that I am not making up any statistics on my own, why is there a need to overthink? @Cullen328, I suggest you go and read the discussion page, he is taking some words out of context apprarently. Also, I didn't accuse you of saying I was being disruptive initially, do you think the word 'disruptive' is civil to use? 155.69.190.63 (talk) 09:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Cullen328. Will see how this goes, as I believe it's not the end yet. hundenvonPG (talk) 08:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- HundenvonPenang, after checking out the personal attack, I warned the IP editor. Cullen328 (talk) 08:00, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
HundenvonPenang and IP, my talk page is completely the wrong place for the two of you to argue about trivialities. Stop it. Cullen328 (talk) 16:40, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, and Sorry!
Someone has poured you tea. |
I'll be sure to try and add more accurate info in the future, I am still learning and have found that the best way to learn is through trial and error (with effort). Thanks so much for your kindness! L.E. Rainer 22:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Nice! Bearian (talk) 17:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate your kind words, Bearian. Cullen328 (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy Holidays, my friend!
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Question from Nowayguysitsmario (00:52, 12 December 2024)
Hello! --Nowayguysitsmario (talk) 00:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nowayguysitsmario, that is not a question. Do you have one? Cullen328 (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- cheeseburger Nowayguysitsmario (talk) 00:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Question from Lmota4040 (23:36, 12 December 2024)
Please can i start publishing? --Lmota4040 (talk) 23:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Lmota4040. That depends entirely on what you want to publish, and whether or not the content complies with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines. Please explain what you want to publish. Cullen328 (talk) 23:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I say NOTHERE for this editor
No constructive edits, use of Wikipedia as host to store their nonsense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071 I think I'll block, what say you? Doug Weller talk 10:18, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, Doug Weller. Neither of us needs a PhD in physics to recognize gibberish and the behavior that goes along with it. Cullen328 (talk) 17:26, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- ok! Doug Weller talk 17:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is great to hear from you, Doug Weller, and I hope that you and Helen have wonderful and loving holiday celebrations. Cullen328 (talk) 17:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- We are, hope you and your family are also Doug Weller talk 09:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is great to hear from you, Doug Weller, and I hope that you and Helen have wonderful and loving holiday celebrations. Cullen328 (talk) 17:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- ok! Doug Weller talk 17:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Requested moves
Hello Cullen328, can you tell me how to end a requested move discussion that I opened and that I wish to remove? Векочел (talk) 14:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Векочел. Simply state in that discussion that you have changed your mind and no longer support the move. Cullen328 (talk) 17:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Question from Mrs.Austin2025 (04:47, 14 December 2024)
Hey how do I start a biography for someone --Mrs.Austin2025 (talk) 04:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Mrs.Austin2025. Spend a few weeks making minor improvements to existing uncontroversial articles, like the history of your home town or some hobby that you have. Familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines, especially the three core content policies, Verifiability and the Neutral point of view and No original research. Read and study Your first article and then read and study the Notabilty guideline for people. Ask yourself at this point, "Does this person really meet that guideline?" It is also a good idea to read and study an essay Wikipedia:Writing Wikipedia articles backward which describes one of the most common mistakes that new editors make. Good luck! Cullen328 (talk) 05:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Question from Secretstobetold on Territorial claims in Antarctica (19:06, 14 December 2024)
Fix it please --Secretstobetold (talk) 19:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Secretstobetold. That's not a question. What specifically needs to be fixed? Cullen328 (talk) 19:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
One last note...
Looks like UConnIPUser still has talk page access [2] - believe you meant to revoke it? - The Bushranger One ping only 22:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for noticing, The Bushranger. Cullen328 (talk) 23:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
I just feel like you need this
WP never ceases to astound me with the depths of weird grudges people have and the lengths they will go to in service of those grudges. El Beeblerino if you're not into the whole brevity thing 21:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Wisdom. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Beeblebrox, thanks a lot. I took this selfie just for you. Well, for Ad Orientem too. OK, for anybody who stops by. My granddaughter likes me to grow out a bushy beard each December, and I indulge her. Did you know that Hanukkah starts on Christmas day this year? Cullen328 (talk) 02:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your granddaughter is right. You got some serious Santa energy going on there. I was just wondering when Hanukkah was starting, but since I don't actually observe it I hadn't bothered to actually check. El Beeblerino if you're not into the whole brevity thing 02:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Beeblebrox, my granddaughter is always right. Cullen328 (talk) 03:47, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting to see how fascial hair is in style these days. I don't think there have been this many men with beards since the Victorian era. Christmas for some of us is January 7th. But I have a lot of family who keep it on the new calendar so it's a bit of a double feast (and cheating on the fast). -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ad Orientem, after Abe Lincoln set the example, most U.S. presidents and politicians wore beards for about 30 years. Not Andrew Johnson because he was a jerk. I guess William McKinley ended the fad. Cullen328 (talk) 03:47, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Grover Cleveland had a beard as a young man but just a bushy mustache later on. Chester A. Arthur had massive muttonchop sideburns. Cullen328 (talk) 03:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm something of a fan of Arthur. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Impressive beard. JSFarman (talk) 03:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- JSFarman, thanks. It will be trimmed back dramatically by New Year's Eve. Happy Hanukkah! Cullen328 (talk) 03:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- But it's an acheivement beard! Happy holidays -- all of them -- to you! JSFarman (talk) 03:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- JSFarman, thanks. It will be trimmed back dramatically by New Year's Eve. Happy Hanukkah! Cullen328 (talk) 03:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Impressive beard. JSFarman (talk) 03:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm something of a fan of Arthur. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Grover Cleveland had a beard as a young man but just a bushy mustache later on. Chester A. Arthur had massive muttonchop sideburns. Cullen328 (talk) 03:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ad Orientem, after Abe Lincoln set the example, most U.S. presidents and politicians wore beards for about 30 years. Not Andrew Johnson because he was a jerk. I guess William McKinley ended the fad. Cullen328 (talk) 03:47, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Request!
Hiya. Will you review Draft:Cary Baker? As a music guy and a Midwesterner, you will totally get it. I have a COI. I met him (oh my god) almost 40 years ago.
The draft was submitted by a disclosed paid editor, and rightfully declined by S0091 in June. I just gave it an edit to address structure and citekill. I also added references. Hopefully not too many. Thanks! Julie JSFarman (talk) 03:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is being discussed at User talk: JSFarman. Cullen328 (talk) 06:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Io Saturnalia!
Io, Saturnalia! | ||
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:01, 17 December 2024 (UTC) |
Hello and Request
Hi there Jim, I have popped up for another round of editing. I hope all is well with you and your loved ones. I see you are an admin so I was wondering if you might look at closing the AFD discussion at Australian Progressives. Best wishes, Flat Out (talk) 07:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Flat Out. It's been years. Welcome back. I am not closing AfDs at this time. I have other areas that I patrol as an administrator. Nobody is recommending keeping that article, so I suspect that another administrator will act soon. Cullen328 (talk) 07:53, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
A request
Hello Cullen,
Following recent activity on the Help Desk (which you were involved in) and now at COIN [3] re: an account interested only in promoting the films of Shannon Alexander, I wondered if there was any prospect of the very argumentative account being blocked?
It's clearly an advertising only account and now they are forum shopping their grievances all over the place (they are currently threatening to go to the NPOV noticeboard, which will only waste more users' time).
Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 23:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, Axad12. Since I have been heavily engaged in disputes with that editor, I believe that it would be best to let another administrator decide whether or not to block. I will be happy to comment wherever the conversation ends up. Cullen328 (talk) 23:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- The only problem is that the user is such a windbag that I don't see many admins bothering to read to the end of the thread (and not many attend COIN anyway). Oh well, we shall see.
- Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 23:47, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cullen, would there be any prospect of you drawing up a brief submission for ANI to try to bring the saga to an end? The user continues to argue here [4], here [5] and here [6] and to be honest it is getting beyond a joke (especially as the user has never attracted any support for their position). As far as I can see they are just focused entirely on creating as many arguments as they can (as per the JonathanHusky account last week). Axad12 (talk) 05:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Axad12, I prefer not to be the editor to do so. Cullen328 (talk) 06:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, so do I. But unfortunately I cannot justify the time to be opposing this user's BS in 3 separate threads. Axad12 (talk) 06:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- ANI thread now added here [7]. Axad12 (talk) 07:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, so do I. But unfortunately I cannot justify the time to be opposing this user's BS in 3 separate threads. Axad12 (talk) 06:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Axad12, I prefer not to be the editor to do so. Cullen328 (talk) 06:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cullen, would there be any prospect of you drawing up a brief submission for ANI to try to bring the saga to an end? The user continues to argue here [4], here [5] and here [6] and to be honest it is getting beyond a joke (especially as the user has never attracted any support for their position). As far as I can see they are just focused entirely on creating as many arguments as they can (as per the JonathanHusky account last week). Axad12 (talk) 05:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
User talk:2A00:23C4:B3AE:3101:6463:27AE:4C80:E87B
Cullen, if a window pops up that offers you to block the /64 range, do it--see this. I'd explain more but Porter needs a walk. Drmies (talk) 01:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is being discussed at User talk: Drmies. Cullen328 (talk) 06:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
There is a comment from an IPv4 user on the talk page of this IP that you blocked. It is probably the same person using a different ISP. Another block may be in order. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thanks, Robert McClenon. Cullen328 (talk) 04:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia Article for creation
I have been trying to creat article about a famouse person but keep getting it declined the article has existed in wikipedia but was later deleted by some admins who think it does not belong in wikipedia. Please note about 65 editors have tried creating this article. Omarisonfire (talk) 03:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)