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Why are unregisted people disabled to improve this article?

"Editing of this article by unregistered or newly registered users is currently disabled." Why that? I want to improve the article, but don`t want to become registered. E.g.: I want to insert a picture of the german article into this. But I can´t. That´s a bit stupid! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.217.209 (talk • contribs)

Because people keep vandalizing this article, so the article receives temporary protection and then is unprotected so unregistered users can edit the article. (:O) -Nima Baghaei ^{talk · cont · email} 16:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Improvation is needed

We could improve this article by writing something about Area 51 employees. Instead of saying something only about famous emplyees, we could try to find out on internet, more about general things. I´m sure that we can find interesting information! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.217.209 (talk • contribs)

If you're gonna vandalise...

...at least make it funny, clever or observant. 85.96.126.25 said "Can you see that thing in the pic?(at left top corner is it a UFO????)", referring to the picture of the warning sign at the border. Apart from the fact they mean top right and not top left, it did make me think: what is that small hovering object there? I have a few ideas.

1: It's a security camera. From other pics I've seen the stands they are on are extremely thin (and white) and might not necessarily show up in a photo at range. This is highly unlikely as the stand would have to be ridiculously tall for the camera to appear there.

2: It's a pave-hawk helicopter, in the distance, either coming face on towards the photographer or moving away.

3: It's something else.

4: It is actually an alien spacecraft, sizing us up for mutilation.

Sweet dreams everybody :D

It looks vaguely like a helicopter. I believe the cammo dudes modus operandi when faced with unexpected visitors is for the trucks to keep tabs on then until the chopper arrives. If the visitors decide to go for a walk the chopper flies down and swamps them with its rotorwake, kicking up such a storm of dust that the visitors can't see and have to sit tight. The cammo dudes call for the sheriff who takes the visitors away. This is rather a smart scheme, because it means that the visitors didn't actually get detained by the cammo dudes at all, and so can't question a cammo dude in any subsequent legal proceedings. In order to get where he is, the photographer has already driven some distance from the highway (and in doing so has marked himself as worthy of cammo dude attention). So you'd expect the chopper to be around by that time. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 10:10, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

True, it probably is a chopper, although according to the excellent dreamland resort site detentions are less regular that you suggest, and are almost exclusively reserved for those who actually cross the (poorly marked!) border into the restricted area. The story about the bloke getting a dust storm courtesy of the helicopter on public land seems to be true, however, despite the fact that its clearly harrassment (sp?). From what I've read, cammos go out of their way to avoid being seen - that one in the jeep on the crest of the hill in the pic may well be about to kick into reverse gear! --LemonAndLime 11:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Its a UFO. Seen too many different types helicopters, on the 'net, the news, seen them in person. That thing is not a helicopter. Good, well focused pix. You should place it in the UFO article. Martial Law 09:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it's something strange. Like some kind of animal that has adapted to spend a lot of time in the air, or something. Possibly some kind of alien with hollow bones who's embyro are covered in a hard shell like thing at birth. Oh wait. It's a damn bird. Scotto 20:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could somebody discribe where this strange object is?

This pic, apparently. ~ Ghelæ ^talk_contribs 19:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the picture! In my opinion it is a small fighter, because when you zoom in on the photo, you can see two angular wings.

They're movable wings, even. It's a bird. Flabreque 02:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Green Dots

Has anyone else seen the green dots north of the Area 51 starting point on Google Earth, just off the extraterrestrial highway? Makabar 17:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they're alfalfa fields. As those seen on the pictures here [1]. The round shape comes from sprinklers on a rotating arm used to irrigate the field. Flabreque 01:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and yes, this is me, I just forgot my password. Rabakam 16:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Runways 03 and 09?

If you look at this on Google Maps by clicking here, you can see what look like two very long extra runways on the lake bed itself, very faintly, at angles from the main runway. One is labelled 03L / 03R, the other is labelled 09L / 09R (you have to zoom in fairly close). Are they runways, and if so why aren't they surfaced like the main runways? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.146.47.250 (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

They are runways, but would only be used in the event of very high crosswinds or an emergency. Flabreque 01:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Letter Image Deletion

I noticed that the letter is up for deletion; there's not much discussion about it, and only two people have actually voted on it. What are people's thoughts? I personally don't have a problem with it. Titanium Dragon 19:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Area 51 garden?

Of all the features of the base this one puzzles me the most: it appears to be a garden. It has bright green trees, and there appear to be two or three waterfalls there too. Why would someone go to the bother of installing a feature like this on a secret airbase in the middle of a desert? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.146.47.250 (talk) 23:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It is called Slater lake (named after the base commander at the time, Col. Hugh Slater). It used to be a recreational facility for the base personnel during the OXCART project, but is more than likely off-limits nowadays due to the proximity of high power radar gear. Flabreque 02:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply! I thought it might be for purposes of keeping up morale or something, didn't seem to be any other reason to do it. Interesting that they appear to have maintained it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.146.47.250 (talk) 21:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

video games

Someone got it wrong. it is area 53 on GTA:SA. Matt E.

I tried deleting this line:

== Operations at Groom Lake ==Area 51 is a conspiracy where aliens live and lay their eggs. They feed on the insides of humans so it is a hidden operation. Nobody is to know about this operation so shhhhh.

However, the text does not show up on the edit page. It shows the text above and below -- but not this stupid stuff. Can somebody who knows more about editing remove this please?

AJHMOM 03:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)ajhmom[reply]

Something Weird

According to Google Earth, Another lake, at the NorthWest of Area 51, the Satelite image showed that the lake has circles in the center of the lake and on the Northward ground . But The image showed that the lake seemed to have water in it. Do you think this is the place where rumous about the UFOs come from? Here is the coordinate of the place: 37°29'16.29"N 116°13'41.38"W.

If you have ever read wikipedia you will know it is an online encyclopedia. I hardly think it is a place to discuss where aliens (which FYI dont even exist) come from. Also none of the lakes at or near area 51 have any water in them, they are all dry lakes, so i dont know where you are looking. And finally those rings are bombing targets for all the air force training which goes on in the area. Gfad1 15:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, it is only your opinion that aliens don't exist...--76.188.151.166 06:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Really, prove that aliens don't exist. There is a very high probability that intelligent life does exist elsewhere in the universe, and alien life has already been somewhat proven to exist(I have read.). The theoretical formula for calculating the probability of the existence of intelligent alien life within our galaxy is : multiply the number of stars in the Milky Way Galaxy

by the number of stars that have planets

by the number of those planets that can support life

by the number of those planets where life actually arises

by the number of those planets where intelligent life develops

by the number of those planets where technology develops

by the span of time a technological civilization survives.

Application to the Milky Way to estimate how many civilizations like our own exist:There are hundreds of billions of stars in the galaxy, most(or many depending) have planets, and if one or two of the planets surrounding a star are suitable for life, and life arises, and only 1% of the planets where life arises develops a technologically advanced civilization, there would still be millions of worlds like our own out there. I apologize for going off topic.

NorskSoldat 22:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anon: that lake is Kawich Dry Lake, and the circles on it as, as Gfad1 says, are gunnery targets used by pilots training at the NAFR. Let's face it - if someone was hiding aliens, they'd not be silly enough to leave a big sign on the ground that could be spotted by some teenager on Google Maps, would they? Gfad11: it's not true that the lakes never have any water in them, just not very much, and not for very long. Las Vegas gets around 4 inches of rainfall every year (I was there in January and it poured for three days solid), and Groom gets much the same. In a dry winter it's enough to make the Groom playa squishy, and in a wet one the entire lake will have a few inches of standing water. It can last a week or more like that. This, of course, gives the lie to the nonsense about the "Cheshire Airstrip" (the claimed runway at Papoose Lake which supposedly appears when it's sprayed with water), as it would get nice and wet and visible in the winter rains. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 16:42, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Area51 Computers to Other?

Area51 computers is web hosting company founded in 1998 with a name based off of the popular conspiracy that the technology boost came from the ufo crash in Roswell where technology from the craft was moved to area51. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kiamori (talk • contribs) 01:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Other Game References

In Grand Theft Auto: San andreas there is a spoof of Area 51 called Area 69 near "Las Venturas" which is a spoof itself of Las Vegas —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spydript (talk • contribs) 00:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Papoose Lake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65_-lrXFIk - watch this link and you´ll see why Papoose Lake is amazing! Does anybody knows something about it? In my opinion doesn´t UFO´s excist. I believe there are (X-) planes in the hangar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.2.212.95 (talk) 16:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

All the information about Papoose Lake in that video is speculation based mostly on the testimony on of person: Bob Lazar, whose credibility is shaky at best. If you want more info about it, read Dreamland Resort's FAQ or Tom Mahood's Papoose Lake primer. Flabreque 08:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your answer Flabreque! I hope more people will write something down here!