Talk:Booches

Restoration

I have restored some content to the article, because the content is sourced to NPR, and also in part because the content removal created grammar errors. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:18, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

• I feel that it is unique that the establishment serves its burgers only on wax paper, which is a rather rare way to serve food. It is also a bit of unique local yore, which is likely of interest to readers. As such, I have restored this content to the article. I have also added more sources to the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:51, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

  any evidence on how rare that is? DGG ( talk ) 02:14, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

  Kind of a moot point; the article doesn't make a rarity claim, and the association of that serving style with the place is reliably sourced. I don't see it as crucial, but if NPR thought it as completel characteristic of the place in the public mind, I'm not inclined to delete it, for the same reason we retain mention of the Manx cat as emblematic of the Isle of Man at the latter, even though this cat breed has had no demonstrable impact on the country's economy, history, etc. It's "trivia" in the same sense as Winona Ryder's parents names are in her bio article; it's not integral to notability, but it's not trivial in the WP-particular sense governed by WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  10:18, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

• I'm unhappy with the loss of the cue sports information; the details on this being a snooker and carom billiards (in the US, where both are rare) as well as pool venue were important from that perspective; not everyone cares about this as a restaurant/bar article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  13:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

• I copy edited to restore the content, which is now verified with a reliable source. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:11, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

• Huzzah!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  14:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Promotion

Northamerica1000, hi, I came across this article when looking for cue sports adjacent articles to look to promote to GA status. I've done a bit of cleanup. Do you have any issues if I do a bit more research and then nominate for GAN? No problems if not. It's interesting it's had so much press about it's food, even recently. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Lee Vilenski − Go for it, and thanks for the message. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Booches/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 23:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'm GhostRiver. I'll be reviewing this article against the good article criteria. By doing so, I am earning points for the WikiCup and the January 2025 GAN Backlog Drive. Although a quid pro quo review is not necessary, it is appreciated. You can see what open good article nominations I have here.

I will go through the article section by section checking it against the criteria. Once I have finished my review, I will place the article on hold, giving you seven days to respond. If you need more time, just reach out! While I'll always put the article on hold once it's ready for you to look at, you may start making changes before I complete my review. — GhostRiver 21:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• Split up first two sentences like so for better flow: Booches is a bar, restaurant, and pool hall on 9th Street in downtown Columbia, Missouri. Established in 1884, it is the oldest pool hall in Columbia.
• Both USA Today and Sports Illustrated should be italicized as names of publications
• The full address (100 S. Ninth St.) should be included in the infobox and in the body

Overview

• Is it 9th Street or Ninth Street? Consistency
• "Booches is named after its founder, Paul Blucher "Booch" Venable, who was nicknamed "Booch""
• The restaurant has gone through many owners in its time, being a male-only establishment until the 1970s. These two thoughts seem unrelated. The male-only bit seems to flow better with the racial segregation in the next sentence.
• The "male-only until the 1970s" statement also does not line up with the source, which just says it "used to be gentlemen only" but doesn't give a timeline.
• Being nitpicky: the lede specifies that the Boone County Historical Society inducted Booches into its HoF, but the society is not named in the body at all.
• Given that it's now a bar, it feels important to note that Booches started serving alcohol in 1982 (CBT source)

In popular culture

• Should probably link University of Missouri basketball to Missouri Tigers men's basketball

References and links

• Ref 4 (Columbia Daily Tribune) is broken, use this link
• Ref 11 is also broken, couldn't find a replacement link
• Ref 16 is broken, try this [7]
• Ref 16 (Rock M Nation) is missing an access date
• "stltoday.com" in Ref 9 should be St. Louis Post-Dispatch

General comments

• No stability concerns, nominator has been heavily involved
• Two relevant photos, both properly licensed
• Earwig score looks good, all proper names / phrases

Putting this one on hold. Best of luck! — GhostRiver 21:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @GhostRiver and @Lee Vilenski, I fixed some of the points such as wikilinking, sentence formats, and references. You may strike them out if it's good. Ping me for any concerns. RFNirmala (talk) 05:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)