User talk:Rustavo
Multiple Stubbing
What's wrong with triple-stubbing? --Prashant.atri 23:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think there's an absolute rule, but generally an article shouldn't be marked with multiple stub tags from the same general category - recently I've been restubbing a lot of articles marked with {{medicine-stub}} or the generally overused {{med-sign-stub}} to more specific subcategory stubs as listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/List of stubs. When I find articles marked with multiple subcategory stubs within medicine, I sometimes remove less specific ones. There's nothing wrong with putting them back though if you feel strongly that it's helpful to have a particular stub listed in multiple subcategories. -RustavoTalk/Contribs 23:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
(Thanks.)
A sense of futility
Ever feel like no matter how many times you roll the rock up the hill, it's gonna end up back at the bottom? Or is that just my pro-Big Brother mentality? MastCell Talk 02:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. I think it is time to ask for mediation. I've never done it though, and I'm not sure it will help. -Rustavo 02:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Option B (which I advocated to User:Dr.michael.benjamin) is to disengage for awhile, let him go to town, and then look at the finished product in a week or two to see what needs to be done to fix it. He obviously has more time on his hands and is a single-purpose editor, so trying to keep up with dozens of edits every hour is not really productive for those of us with other interests in the encyclopedia. Easier said than done of course. Mediation is not a bad idea either, and I'd gladly sign on. MastCell Talk 02:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we tried the waiting thing before, and after a few weeks he came back. We'd put a lot of work into incorporating the more valid parts of his reasoning into a well balanced criticism section, and he wiped it all out. He seems intent on replacing the basic structure of the whole section with a libertarian laundry list, and I'm afraid if we gave him a week at this point, the only feasible "fix" would be a complete revert or rewrite. I'm looking forward to writing a section that gives a fair account of the important FDA reforms and controversies of the past 10 years, but I don't want to see it all hacked up with gibberish. Obviously the fix-as-he-goes-along strategy is wasting my time though, and is probably counterproductive in getting him to move on - plus now he just straight up reverts my editing as soon as I do it. I say we give him a week alone with the criticism section before asking for mediation. We can use the "before" and "after" in making our case. -Rustavo 03:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Generic update: the criticism stuff just got forked into Criticism of the FDA. // 3R1C 06:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we tried the waiting thing before, and after a few weeks he came back. We'd put a lot of work into incorporating the more valid parts of his reasoning into a well balanced criticism section, and he wiped it all out. He seems intent on replacing the basic structure of the whole section with a libertarian laundry list, and I'm afraid if we gave him a week at this point, the only feasible "fix" would be a complete revert or rewrite. I'm looking forward to writing a section that gives a fair account of the important FDA reforms and controversies of the past 10 years, but I don't want to see it all hacked up with gibberish. Obviously the fix-as-he-goes-along strategy is wasting my time though, and is probably counterproductive in getting him to move on - plus now he just straight up reverts my editing as soon as I do it. I say we give him a week alone with the criticism section before asking for mediation. We can use the "before" and "after" in making our case. -Rustavo 03:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank-you
Thanks for your feedback on the cerebral hypoxia article. I wasn't quite sure of how to use the pubmed citation format. Egfrank 12:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Just looked at the documentation on the citation template - it is a bit intimidating. I wonder if you might be able to fix one of the pub-med cites so I have an example to go by - or give me a link to an article with one. Many thanks, Egfrank 12:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- The easiest way to do it is to use the Wikicite program - just enter the PubMed ID and it automatically fills out the template for you. -Rustavo 16:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Curious development
So it turns out that our good "libertarian" friend User:Regulations is a sock puppet of User:Billy Ego, a proud self-proclaimed fascist who has just been banned by the Arbitration Committee. In light of this curious development, shall we re-examine the FDA articles? I'd propose deleting the criticism article as a POV fork, restoring a criticism section to the main article, and whittling it down in a manner that reflects Wikipedia's policies. What do you think? MastCell Talk 01:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Pathology
Yes, it was a bit of a resolution issue with the TOC, plus I don't see how that one small element can affect GA. ~ Giggy! Talk Contribs 23:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed on the last part, I just meant that the previous version looked OK to a reviewer as well as myself. I personally don't like a lot of blank space on the page. Thanks for the feedback. -Rustavo 00:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry to bug you, but could you post your message on my talk page please. My watchlist gets filled to quickly otherwise.~ Giggy! Talk Contribs 10:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure whether it was considered kosher to move whole conversations back and forth - is that the way these things are generally done? Do I leave a copy on my talk page? -RustavoTalk/Contribs 23:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Most people simply put a message on the other person's talk page. You can leave it on your page if you want, it's up to you. I don't, others do, your choice! The only thing that you SHOULD do is put a message, at least a notification, on the other talk page.~ Giggy! Talk Contribs 23:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Indeed yes. The discussions at WSS/P don't actually need to be formally closed as such (that's just bookkeeping, really): five days is up, consensus seems to be clearly to create. Let me know if I can help any further. Alai 01:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'll second that - go ahead. The only real quibble with it seems to be slight ambiguity of scope, which shouldn't be any more of a problem than it is in the main Category:Pathology. Sorry about the initial grumbling on my part, BTW :) Grutness...wha? 02:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Lymphology
Perhaps "keep" should read "no consensus", but the end result is exactly the same: the status quo. All I can suggest is to resubmit the request in a few weeks and ensure that there is more input. I don't mean canvassing individual editors, which is frowned upon, but trying to get all editors who have an informed opinion on the subject to comment. Leaving a note at relevant projects, or on related article talk pages, would be the way to go. It's very difficult, even for far simpler subjects, to judge whether arguments over facts, rather than guidelines, are valid or not. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
FTLD/FTD
Thank you for the well justified and needed correction of wording to the article on frontotemporal lobar degeneration. I couldn't agree more that it's important to keep pathological entities and clinical syndromes distinct. Also, I think it's important to keep the relevant information about the clinical entities thought to be caused by those pathologic processes in the article somehow. This is why I added some of the information you removed back to the article. Hopefully, this or something like it will seem a fair compromise. Cheers, sallison 00:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Sinusitis Biofilm Edits
The sum total of your edits gives a factually incorrect impression. I believe it so reduces the presentation of the subject matter that it constructively violates NPO. The only time that biofilms have not been found in tissue removed from patients with CS is when the mateial was not examined for them. Once you know what you are looking at, were you to do either freeze fracture samples or use a confocal microscope and the approperate stains, you would see them.
Almost ALL important pathogens form biofilms.
The fact that it may take a Grassley Act law suit to get medical schools to pay attention to how real "wild type" bacteria grow is just really really sad.
Plese reply by e-mail or on my talk page, which you guys did not bother to do when you made these edits. Truehawk 21:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, a number of people have responded to your edits on the article talk page, which is the most appropriate location for such discussion. Regarding NPOV, it might be useful to re-read the section of the policy dealing with undue weight, which has been brought up regarding your edits on the article talk page. MastCell Talk 22:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
The number of people responding to my edits, if I remember, was David Rubin, who has in the past e-mailed me when he was going to edit, Rustavo, and you MastCell. This is a more approperate venue for what I have to say to you, as you if I remember correctly said that there was no section about biofilms in your infectious disease textbook. There is not. Now WHY??
I am a metallurgist. Don't you think that it is preculiar that the vet, the waste water scientist and I know more about biofilms than you do?
Do you think that approperate or desirable?
And why is MastCell responding on Rustavo's page? Truehawk 23:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)