User talk:Adrian M. H.

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GiveWay

hello Adrian

thank you for your help. I think this is just too complicated for me.

I was endeavouring to add this young band into this Wikipedia as they have achieved some serious notability in Scotland and not as an attempt to look for business.. I am basically trying to list them in that interseting section on family bands and bands with siblings.

I do represent them but this would hardly be the place to look for gigs. I don't have any probelm getting work for these girls and they do appear on Wikipedia already I notice under 'The Skye Music Festival' whger they are appearing with many other well known acts.

I thought this was meant to be fun/interesting/educational. I don't even see how to reply to the lady who put the message on my talk page Who could have seen these brilliant girls when they were on tour in California a month ago.

Do you have any suggestions. Should I just delete the page I made and account likewise?

Thank you Kind regards Donna Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Donnamacrae 00:15, 28 April 2007

Replied at User talk:Donnamacrae. Adrian M. H. 23:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Dear Adrian

thank you for offering to help I am afraid I have just removed the whole text from that page in case anyone else took offence.

I don't know how to remove the actual page itself.

I by the way have always looked at learning about anything as fun. That's why I used that term. It wasn't meant to be flippant.

I am trying now to make this signature with the wavy lines

Thank goodness it's the weekend!

Donnamacrae 23:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Donna again- Page still there

Dear Adrian

good morning. And a beautiful one..up here in The Highlands. Having done what I thought was removing all the text from the GiveWay page that I made, I did a search for it this morning and it's still there.

In the interim I took a look at your User Info.The fact that you're a web designer makes sense. Belive it or not I build the odd website including my own business and personal sites.I have just begun to get the hang of CSS. Hard to believe I find this online editing so hard to figure out! I had been dwelling on submitting another article on some subject that interests me and when I was looking at your interests I was intrigued to see quite a few that also interest me. Non-fiction (I seldom read fiction), History ..personally the history of the Near East / Art .. started out in Art school and still paint although it's not how I make a living / Flying..well you'll know about that Lancaster bomber that's just been rebuilt. (My father flew in WW11 and his brother in the 1st war in the RFC. Flying's in the family blood and I am currently training for my private Pilot's license.. will be aloft on Sunday)Biking . I have recently taken up mountainbiking.. great fun.

If I learn how to do it, I'll make a user page for myself that has a tad more than my name on it. I'm going to have a look at your tips and links.

Anyway .. back to GiveWay. They are brilliant girls. Two of them attend The Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama. The other two are just finishing highers and will leave school this summer.Fairport Convention are having them at their Cropredy festival in August and they've been back and for the across the channel to European festivals over the last month, most recently in Belgium.

So if you're still willing to help with my article about them, then when you have time I'd appreciate that.

Kind regards, Donna Donnamacrae 06:43, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image gallery link for City of Encinitas

Hi. I'm a fourth generation San Diegan and as such I have a pasion for the history of my city. I've lived in the city of Encinitas (San Diego County) Since 1972. I'm involved with the San Dieguito Heritage Museum which houses the largest archive of historical photos and documents anywhere in the world for the San Dieguito area, which includes the City of Encinitas.

I have recently created a website for the purpose of housing photographs of our area. I wanted to offer it to the Encinitas page of Wikipedia, but having learned that there are many guidlines I thought I could run it past you. Here is the link. If after viewing you think this could be used for our Encinitas page I would like to offer it under whatever conditions would allow it.

http://www.californiacoastalimages.com/page2/page2.html

Thanks for taking a look.

Kyle ThomasKyle Thomas 08:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at user's talk page. Adrian M. H. 10:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page Deleted

Hello again, Adrian

the page has been deleted.

Thanks anyway for the offer of help.

Kind regards

Donna.M 09:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at user's talk page. Adrian M. H. 11:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You ( again)

Dear Adrian,
thank you for the offer of posting an article. It's kind of you to be so helpful. I would be very happy for you to submit something about the girls.
I had hoped to list them in those 'Family Bands' and 'Sibling Bands' categories which are fascinating. It's remarkable how many bands are either all members of one family or have at least 2 siblings in the band.

Kind regards Donna Donnamacrae 11:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My User Page

Hi Adrian

I have started work on my user page. If you have a moment can you let me know that i haven't included anything I'm not supposed to include. It's a start.

Kind regards Donna

Oops

Forgot the Donnamacrae 11:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Pianta

I don't really understand your last sentence but someone unmerged it. I was thinking of re writing the article as I think more information could be included in it. Henchman 2000 08:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

time ParserFunction

I saw your question on the Help Desk, so I thought that I might pop in with the easy solution, although I do recommend learning about ParserFunctions - they're very useful. Anyway, if you want to display the time one hour ahead of UTC, it's very easy with the #time function:

{{ #time: l, j F Y, H:i | +1 hours}} gives Sunday, 12 January 2025, 01:19
{{ #time: H:i | +1 hours}} gives 01:19
{{ #time: g:i A | +1 hours}} gives 1:19 AM
{{ #time: g:i a | +1 hours}} gives 1:19 am

You can pick one from what I wrote above, or there's always the official page with such fun as #expr or #switch functions. For the record, it's 8:19 PM for me as you read this. Good night/day! Nihiltres^(t.c.s) 01:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, that's great. Thanks very much! Adrian M. H. 16:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good Faith

Hey,

I need your advice. There's a bunch of people editing the vlog article. They reverted back to the old version which has indiscriminate links and a genres section which is original research. I really want to encourage them so i don't want to take anything away right now and they're less likely to trust my advice because of the issues with mmeiser so i'm wondering if you could take a look and make comments or let me know how I should handle it. Pdelongchamp 21:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Pdelongchamp 18:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Userpage syntax

Thanks for the offer of help! I'm sorry to say that I'm completely lost; I'm quite familiar with how to compose normal articles, include images, categories, and templates, but all I can do with coding otherwise is by experimentation: I try one thing, and if it works, I keep it. I've not a clue what CSS or divs are. I guess they're something I need to learn about :-) Nyttend 13:37, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at user's talk page. Adrian M. H. 14:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Many thanks Adrian for reading the article and for your encouraging comments. Regards Staug73 16:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for your advice on my question about bots posted at the village pumpAdmiralCustard 01:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AM Only, Part 3

Well, I gave into temptation, as you would see if you looked at my history. But any contribution I make is an addition to the body of knowledge.

You said you wanted to see my original article entitled "AM Only". As you suggested, I started the page User:Vchimpanzee/Draft articles and, since I was lucky enough to see the warning before it was deleted, I emailed the article to myself and I copied and pasted it there. I had to do some work to get the links to work because somehow emails include carriage returns that I didn't ask for. And that messes up the links.

I did see a less stern warning about advertising. I was thinking that's what I should have gotten. Once again, I didn't even consider the possibility that they could call it advertising if I used the business slogans that I intended as evidence of the nature of the business. Vchimpanzee 22:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And one of these days I'll get in the habit of clicking on "Show preview" instead of "Save page". Once, though, I lost everything after doing the preview instead.Vchimpanzee 22:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'll take a look at it later. Adrian M. H. 16:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Working on my first article

Adrian,

Thank you so much for offering to help me with my new article. I have arrived at the point where I need to work on my citations.

I am writing about a local California State Senator and I have looked at other articles about California State Senators for guidance on citations. Some of these have lots of information but no footnotes only external links.

I used 3 main sources for my article, the Orange County Register newspaper, the Los Angeles Times newspaper and the State Senate web site.

Do all references need to link to the actual article because some of my sources are from 10 years ago and I don't know if they are easily available on line.

Could you look at my user page for me and let me know how I am doing and how to proceed. I would really appreciate it.

--BigKnish 04:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Same with me, thanks a lot (although it was deleted for some reason). HaLoGuY007 01:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks, but I'm in the midst of it right now, I'll let you know if I'm a total disaster. Julieannesmo 22:11, 4 May 2007

No worries. It's on my watchlist. Adrian M. H. 22:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You learn something new every day!

I didn't know "encyclopedia" had an alternate spelling in British English. Cheers! SkipperClipper 03:48, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Typo fixing

Thanks for catching my typo on 2004 Formula Three Euroseries season -- AWB didn't do it; but I was trying to go with your suggestion from the earlier edit on 2005 Formula Three Euroseries season, and I "overrode" AWB's suggestion with "consist" instead. I just typed it wrong... -- JHunterJ 21:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I don't use AWB, as it sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Adrian M. H. 21:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Thanks for your efforts on the Talk:Turbocharger page as a third opinion. I had high hopes for the page, but it seems before I can do anything I have to go through edit wars etc. so I'll probably concentrate on the real world until I have the time to do all that. I'm new to Wikipedia and learned something from all this, so thanks. Howboutpete 01:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi Adrian! Thank you for your prompt answer to a stupid newcomer. Following your advice, I'm going to read Help pages first. Everything seems to be very complicated here but I try my best. I hope I am doing right to write you. Thanks again. Oda Mari 05:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Hello Adrian, thanks for your help in relation to my article Rise of nationalism in Europe. As you know, I am a new user and your clarity in relation to wikipedia's deletion policy was top drawer! Thanks also for the useful "get me started" links. (p.s is my article safe? + can you post me a link to wikipedia's Irish community?). TerritorialWaters 10:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Replied at User talk:TerritorialWaters. Adrian M. H. 14:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New User--Move Tab

Hi Adrian,

Thank you for replying to my question about renaming an article I wrote. Where would I find the Move tab? Should it show up when I go to the Edit Page? If so, it's not there yet because my account is under 96 hours old (I actually had another account started a few months ago under another name, but forgot my user name and password when I came back and had to start over). What info would you need for you to fix it? If that's not possible, I guess I can wait the additional 48 hours. Thanks!

Superpup1414 00:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at User talk:Superpup1414. Adrian M. H. 13:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Adrian,

You are absolutely right, those are the changes I would like to make--the initial caps on all the words and the accent on the e. If you could do that, I would be eternally grateful!

Just curious--when I initially did the search on that article name, I carelessly ignored things like caps because I knew they weren't important to the search. So it seems like then when I clicked on "start new article" I got the title exactly the way I did the search. For future reference, was there somewhere along the way where I could have adjusted the article title to be exactly the way I wanted it before I posted it?

Thank you!

Superpup1414 13:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving pages

Hi Adrian. How do I archive pages onto my userpage? I also left this message at help desk. I guess you know that. Thanks. TerritorialWaters, 15:31 9 May 2007 (UTC).

More Thanks Come Adrian's Way

The change looks great! Thanks for all your help--I promise I will get everything absolutely right on the first try next time.

Superpup1414 18:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks. Adrian M. H. 18:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great

That's it! I thought that </font style> was a valid tag. The hot dog has regained dominance over the mustard. Thank you!--MrFish^{Go Fish} 12:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar !

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For the considerable work at WP:HD and WP:NCP, and for being a helpful and kind editor. This Working Man's Barnstar is awarded to you, Adrian, because your being here helps build Wikipedia a much better place. Best wishes, Pea ceNT 07:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, that's great. Thanks! Adrian M. H. 16:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome template

Where is the welcome template at the top of User talk:Shakespeareanpie from? —Centrx→talk • 16:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is my own design, and his since been updated anyway. There are a lot of templates available at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates if you're looking for a custom design. Adrian M. H. 16:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking for User:Adrian M. H./Welcome. —Centrx→talk • 18:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help on the polska dance article

Thanks very much! I will work on this intermittantly. Hope you may check again some time this summer.

I have looked through other Wikipedia dance references and found that the names of dances are not capitalized, at least at the broadest level where they refer to a class of dances--for example, see entries for "waltz" and "tango." Even when made particular to a subclass the stay lower case, for example "Finnish tango" or Viennese waltz". Only when unique dance is named is the word capitalized, for example "Eva's Waltz" as the name of a specific tune or a specific choreography.

But that is a minor quibble. I have also now figured out how to use RFF and reviewed your comments there. I see I have my work cut out for me. I accept the charge!Cpgruber 16:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could help. Adrian M. H. 16:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Downtown: A Street Tale

As you noted, the external links serve as the references. When these are provided, why should the same links be scattered throughout the article? Isn't that redundant? Thanks. SFTVLGUY2 15:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not redundant. Far from it. WP:V clearly states the requirements for demonstrating sources and what can be done with unsourced material. However, an external links section is often redundant if you properly reference your material. Adrian M. H. 15:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will assume from the removal of my comment on your talk page that you have read my reply here. Adrian M. H. 19:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your fine contribution and highly admirable Wikiquette in resolving an edit war. VanTucky 00:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Help with an article: John W. Morgan

Hello there Adrian,

I was wondering what should I do in regards to the article if Third point of view should not weight in again.

The last time I was agreed with by two people but people are STILL changing the article to include the IQ. It is madness.

Thank you for your time --Kirkoconnell 19:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, welcome to the wonderful world of Wikipedia edit wars! If there is one thing that can be guaranteed, it is that you will at some point come up against someone who disregards guidelines/consensus/etc. and will not be reasonable about it. Fortunately, there are steps beyond 3O, such as Requests for comment and, if things get really bad, mediation (not there yet, thankfully!) One thing that you always have to bear in mind, of course, is that any consensus or impartial opinion may not favour your point of view. Although, in this case, I would say that you are correct. After all, if a debatable or controversial fact cannot be reliably verified, it shouldn't be there. I'll probably leave some comments on the talk page of that article a bit later on. It will remain to be seen what effect it has. Adrian M. H. 19:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well thank you for that. I would appreicate any input really, good or bad, just different people. This random, repeating people adding comments and never following up is just sillyness.--Kirkoconnell 21:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Footnoting

Hi Adrian,

I'm having trouble footnoting and couldn't find any info on it in the tutorials, etc. Can you give me a quick tip or a link to instructions about how to footnote material added to an existing article?

Thank you!

Superpup1414 16:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, no problem.
If you haven't already found it, see WP:FN, which tells you how to create references in the footnote style. Basically, each reference will be placed between ref tags – <ref> and </ref> – directly after a punctuation mark, before the space. They can be placed mid-sentence if the citation specifically refers to that part of the sentence and not the next part. If you are making refs for existing material, then I guess it either has no inline refs at all or has the basic URL style, like this.[1] Converting those is quite easy. Get as much info as you need from the source (website name, title of article, etc.) and change the [http://www.example.org] into [http://www.example.org Title of article] ''example.org'', retrieved on [[May 22]] [[2007]]. See the next bit for more about that.

For each type of reference, there is usually a slightly different approach to layout, and WP:CITET can help with this. I won't suggest that you use the templates that you'll see on that page, because they are not mandatory and actually create more work for the editor in typing or pasting. But the examples are good for showing how to structure a ref and what information it should contain (assuming that it's available). The most important/useful layouts are:

{{cite book}}

Cordell, Bruce R. (2001). Manual of the Planes. Wizards of the Coast. pp. pp. 198-203. ISBN 0-7869-1850-8. {{cite book}}: |pages= has extra text (help); Check |isbn= value: checksum (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

{{cite journal}}

Bailey, David H. (1999-06-25). "The Quest for Pi" (PDF). Mathematical Intelligencer. 19 (1). Springer: 50–57. ISSN: 0343-6993. Retrieved 2006-06-29. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

{{cite news}}

McGee, Maggie (2005-02-10). "Seabed 'scarred' by tsunami quake". CNN. pp. 12–27. Retrieved 2006-07-03. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

{{cite web}}

Hansen, James E. (2005-12-15). "GISS Surface Temperature Analysis Global Temperature Trends: 2005 Summation". NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Retrieved 2006-09-28. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

Those layouts cover pretty much any source, and there is flexibility about what fields you include (use as many as you have available, basically). There are three ways of displaying the finished refs: The best are {{reflist}} or {{reflist|2}}, which produce a list in a small text size. The "2" version gives two columns, which is not supported by all browsers, but is useful for long lists. The other type is <references/>, which produces full-size text. I think that covers everything, but let me know if I've missed anything. Regards, Adrian M. H. 16:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

entry to be deleted

Dear adrian,

thank you so much for giving me advice as to my entry. I just joined Wiki. In fact i was advised to do so to create the entry Xenovibes. I will read the guidelines once more but hope that the entry will not be deleted before I get to modify it to suit the site. I had a few problems scripting the entry such as how to link internally which I have since worked out. I realised after posting the entry that we could upload images. Still working this out.

Please advise me in a summary why the entry cannot be included. Thanking you in advance!

Xenovibes 13:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC) I finally figured out how to sign![reply]

To be totally honest, your chosen subject may not be suitable for an article at all. Looking at the work-in-progress on your user page (wrong place for it, but I'll cover that in a minute), it is a little confusing as to what it is actually about. It initially appeared to be a neologism, but is actually about a band, is that right? In which case, WP:MUSIC is the most relevant of the specific policies (general policies/guidelines almost always apply).

Your user page is not the place for any kind of article content. That leaves it open to deletion, usually by MFD. If you want to work on draft articles online, do so in a sub-page, instructions for which are at that user page link. Hope that helps. Adrian M. H. 14:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Plague (English punk rock band)

Hi Adrian, something weird has happened, there is a The Plague (English punk rock band) page and a The Plague (English Punk Rock Band) page - note that all the words in brackets are in capitals in the second page. Not sure how this happened, can we delete the second page? It also seems to be a much earlier and unsuitable edit. Regards, apprentice_punk 12:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how that came about. I was fully expecting to see that someone had set up a redirect to correct for the capitalization ("English punk rock band" is the correct way of naming it) but you actually created both articles, one on the 24th April and the other on the 2nd May. I recognise the one with the capitals as an earlier version of the article. As it's a duplicate, there is nothing to merge, so you can tag it with either {{db-author}} (because you were the only significant contributor) or {{db-reason}}, which has room for a brief explanation of the nomination. Regards, Adrian M. H. 15:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm not sure how to apply the template to the article? apprentice_punk 20:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Worked it out :) apprentice_punk 20:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Footnoting Conquered

Thanks for all the info--I got the footnote in that I wanted so now the material I input is all nice and legal and verifiable and all that good stuff. You're the best-- Superpup1414 00:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one! Thanks, Superpup. Adrian M. H. 14:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Defaultsort

Check out how powerful the WP:AWB is for tagging DEFAULTSORT by inspecting my last several hundred edits today. The bot is doing all of the defaultsorting, I am just manually adding Category:American racecar drivers. Can that help you with this project? Royalbroil 19:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly could, RB, if it's that good, but I read somewhere that it can only be used with Internet Explorer. Adrian M. H. 19:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Irish School Aid Article

I rewrote it for a more neutral tone. This is the same person as the one who posted on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.40.45.61 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Now 4tides inserts my nick

Adrian M. H., Thank you.

I can use 4tides now. I was unaware about quote in that "BOX" (what is that box for?) in "my preferences" and after deleting that quote, now it is according to my expectation.

Sincere Thanks for your help/support/advice

AnThRaX Ru 20:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is for customised signatures, like mine. The markup that you see when viewing someone's signature in the edit window is stored in the text box and the check box allows it to function. See WP:SIG for info. Adrian M. H. 21:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good work

I am seeing you everywhere these days in various parts of the Wikipedia community, so take this, you have most definitely earned it ;) –Se bi ~ 22:27, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks! That's nice. Adrian M. H. 22:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pressure Reducing Valve

Hello,

As I have said before, a Pressure Reducing Valve is completely different to a Pressure release valve. The former regulates the pressure, and the latter either shuts off the supply, or releases it to (usually) to the atmosphere when a critical situation has arisen, eg a fire or excess pressure. I'm afraid the link that you have inserted is not correct. Please could my article be reinstated!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanners (talk • contribs) 10:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please learn how to sign your posts and use headings? It's a pain having to use {{unsigned}} all the time because users don't bother signing. I agreed (and still do) with the comment on your talk page from another editor, requesting that the redirect be done, but if you really want to have a separate article whose content should be covered in another article, then feel free to revert. That's your prerogative. Just bear in mind that if it ever goes to AFD, the consensus is very likely to result in a merge anyway. Adrian M. H. 13:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pressure reducing valve

Hello Adrian,

Sorry about not signing my last message, I realise now what to do.

I see that there actually is an article called Relief Valve which is the same as Pressure Relief Valve which is what I was banging on about! So Prssure Relief Valve should really be directed there and not to Safety Valve. Call me a pedant, but the two types of valve really are quite different!

Fanners 18:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]