User talk:Steve Stefan

Blanking page

If you are planning to be a regular member of the wikipedia community, blanking talk pages can be seen by some as a sure sign of someone who is not regularly in complete understanding of how we communicate within the project of making an online encyclopedia. Satu Suro 23:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mayors of Perth

You have introduced a few wild cards there, I would strongly suggest that you look at each link that you have created there, and perhaps re-consider how you might improve the edit. Satu Suro 23:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant repetitions are usually edited out without mercy - City of Perth was all that was needed - as it contains sufficient qualifiers, the next four links are not needed! Satu Suro 23:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop

You are introducing something in all those pages which are considered redundant repetitions. Satu Suro 00:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK

First, please sign your messages (have you had a proper welcome message yet? )- please try this one-

Welcome!

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Please note I havent checked each entry

- but you have gone into the pags and reverted the 'see also' - and added unnecessary links.

In the case of The Perth one, City of Perth is all that you need to place there - the following links/qualifiers are not needed... the qualifier which you are adding externally is sufficiently covered in the city of Perth link

Also please do not add my messages from here back to my talk page - it is not needed. Thanks Satu Suro 00:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Steve,

I think what SatuSuro is trying to say is that too much context creates redundancy. For example, I understand why you want to link to both Western Australia and Australia, but "Western Australia, Australia" reads terribly. I've reworked the lead sentence in List of Mayors and Lord Mayors of Perth; consider doing the same on the other mayoral lists you've updated.

Also, you may not be aware that there has been strenuous disagreement recently over whether years should be linked. The manual of style says:

"There is consensus among editors that bare month and day names should not be linked unless there is a specific reason that the link will help the reader to understand the article. There is less agreement about links to years. Some editors believe that links to years are generally useful to establish context for the article. Others believe that links to years are rarely useful to the reader and reduce the readability of the text. Another possibility is to link to a more specific article about that year, for example [[2006 in sports|2006]], although some people find this unintuitive because the link leads to an unexpected destination."

but this paragraph fails to capture just how strongly some editors fell about it. The issue seems to have lapsed into an uneasy truce whereby each side promises not to link or delink years en masse. If you don't want someone to bite your head off, it would be advisable not to link years en masse until the dispute is resolved.

Hesperian 00:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beaconhills

Hi, thanks for adding the GIS link to Beaconhills. Hope you can help improve the article. Crested Penguin 08:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MiniProject PSA

Hello, i have noted your edit to the Public Schools Association page and you have been invited to join the Public Schools Association (PSA) MiniProject. More information on the project can be found at its homepage - User:Twenty Years/PSA. We would love to have you on board! Twenty Years 11:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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City of Stonnington and Lauriston Girls' School

I see that you have reverted my change to the link for Lauriston Girls' School in the article on the City of Stonnington. I agree that the apostraphe is the grammatically correct usage, but I was avoiding the rediredct because the article's title did not use it. I have moved the page to the correct this. Blarneytherinosaur talk 02:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I hereby award this to Steve Stefan for your fine contributions to Australian school articles Twenty Years 10:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep up the great work. Twenty Years 10:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Associated Schools

Hi Steve Stefan:

I've reverted the alignment of the columns in TAS member schools ... Large numbers (especially those with commas) in tables are always right-aligned, and once this was done the "Founded" column just looked wrong also being left-aligned with "centered" being the best look. Pkortge 13:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've again reverted your edits and right aligned the numbers columns. Columns of numbers are always right aligned ! Pkortge 09:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

May 2007

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Public Schools Association Sports Champions. Thank you. Thewinchester ^(talk) 04:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow or move it unilaterally while discussion about it is underway, as you did to Public Schools Association Sports Champions. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. A copy-paste move is bad, and breaches WP's rules and policies which require every contribution is attributed to it's original author. Thewinchester ^(talk) 06:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Public Schools Association. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. The content you added was a direct copyvio from a previous article where the community consensus was delete. The readdition of the content of this article is not only flying in the face of community consensus, but also is a breach of the GFDL which all contributions to Wikipedia are made under requiring all editor contributions to be appropriately recognised. Thewinchester ^(talk) 05:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Associated Schools Template

I've again changed the school names back to their full names - as originally created by template originator User:Loopla. Your continued edits to this template are now bordering on vandalism. Pkortge 09:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've yet again changed the school names back to their full names. Your assertion that "Only abbreviated school names are shown in Templates for all School Sporting Associations" is because YOU have gone and changed all these templates to make this so ! Pkortge 11:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Melbourne meetup 6

Hi. This is just a reminder to Wikipedeans that the next Melbourne meetup has been arranged for 19 June. I would be pleased if you could indicate on the meetup page your likely attendence, or otherwise. Regards. - Cuddy Wifter 05:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Enough already

Normally we assume good faith around here, but I am verging on making a serious exception with yourself. Despite the numerous AfD's, the schoolcruft essay, multiple warnings for your editorial behaviour, and numerous editors getting seriously annoyed with you, the message just has not got through to you regarding your editorial activities on schools.

I'm now going to summarise this, and break it down into a single word which hopefully even you can understand - stop.

Once again I have logged on and seen that you have reintroduced content to an article that was deleted by community consensus (which was a list of champions of a sporting event). This is simply not on, no matter how many different ways you try and format it or present it. This is also despite no reliable sources being found to factually support this information. You have a serious conflict of interest in these matters, and your editorial leanings have been to the point of crossing the line. Can I strongly suggest that if you are wanting to share this kind of information, please take it somewhere else (like creating your own space on Wikia for this content). Further persistence with these kind of actions will just result in immediate reversion, and procedural escalation to the point where you risk an indefinite block from Wikipedia (which would suit me and a number of projects quite fine all things considered). Thewinchester ^(talk) 23:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

diff - Yes, that's the entire point people have been at pains to make to you. You've been re-adding content which was deleted by community consensus. How many ways must this be put to you so the message will sink in - don't do it. And references will not help you, because there are other issues such as copyright, arguments that the republication of this information may deprive said organisation of revenue, and the fact that all these materials would come from self-published sources which do not meet the standards of WP:RS. Please take the content somewhere else and stop wasting valuable and finite resources of a pool of sensible editors, who would rather not be spending their every waking wiki moment following you around cleaning up your mess. Thewinchester ^(talk) 00:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately copyright and ownership of source material aren't "silly", they're actually core Wikipedia policy. It's not something we can afford to ignore as a volunteer endeavour as the Foundation regularly gets legal threats from legal firms representing or claiming to represent companies and organisations. Orderinchaos 23:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]