Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canberra

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Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (30 October 2004 to 22 October 2005)
• Archive 2 (October 2005 to February 2006)

Another new contributor

Following suggestion, I thougth I'd announce my availability and willingness to help with improving the articles on Canberra.

My particular interest in the moment is in photography. People may have noticed the images of the Canberra Hospital and the National Museum I added to the main Canberra article. If anyone has particular images of Canberra or things in Canberra that could use a decent photo, feel free to let me know and I'll see what I can do.

I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia editing and starting to get the hang of it all. --Myk 01:15, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to the project! Nice job on the hospital photo, the health section of Canberra had been image-less for a long time -- Astrokey44|talk 09:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

IP 203.217.59.148

Could someone else please look at the edits of IP 203.217.59.148 - see (contributions). I have reverted her changes to the Talk:History of Canberra showing her intention as a strike though instead. Not sure how to, or whether to, deal with her other edits. If someone thinks what I have done to Talk:History of Canberra is not appropriate let me know and/or revert--A Y Arktos 22:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

It looks like they have been removed again, they should probably stay removed since she just specifically asked for this. She should be able to remove comments especially as this statement means that she would not be making them GFDL: "Please honour my wishes and the wikipedia policy not to breach copyright - I have withdrawn my contributions." Editors should be able to remove their talk page comments if there are no further comments by other editors. And if there are there could be a note saying that there were comments there that had been removed. -- Astrokey44|talk 09:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 18:25, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Mainpage

Canberra is on the main page today! -- Astrokey44|talk 03:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

See the vandalism go crazy! -- Myk 16:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Canberra railway station

Something not mentioned in this is the railway station. Other cities have individual transport projects, but since Canberra only has its one station, it deserves an article on its own. What do others think? (JROBBO 08:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC))

Every other railway station in the country either has one or should have one. Canberra railway station is probably the best place to put it. Ambi 02:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Since it's a proper name, Shouldn't that be Canberra Railway Station? --Myk 21:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not really a proper name - it's just the railway station at Canberra - and lower case is what we've used elsewhere in the country. Ambi 00:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

• stub started--A Y Arktos\^talk 01:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Canberra

Can someone else please review the recent edits to All Saints Church, Canberra and associated discussion I have been having with an anon editor at Talk:All Saints Church, Canberra? After several reversions I would want my actions confirmed by others. The offending text is: "This historic building today is home to a vibrant Anglican community who value beauty in worship, strong teaching, and an active social conscience." --A Y Arktos\^talk 21:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree the sentence should have been removed. It says nothing other than its anglican which is already mentioned -- Astrokey44|talk 00:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Farrer

I edited up the Farrer page; I found some info for it. What do you guys think? Dac 08:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• Looks great, you can probably even remove the stub tag.--Peta 10:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I've added infoboxes to the last 34 suburb articles, mostly in Belconnen and Gungahlin. There are articles for a handful of planned Gungahlin suburbs that will need maps eventually. The 2001 census information is now even harder to find on the ABS website. There were a few suburbs that I couldn't find information for at all. I guess it'll all need replacing with 2006 census figures before long though. - Gimboid13 20:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

New contributor/ Gowrie

Hi. I've added some info to the Gowrie page, mainly statisics. I'm new to Wikipedia editing, and I would like to make a useful contribution to improving the Canberra-related articles, so if I'm doing something wrong, let me know. WA Burdett 12:04, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

New contributor/ACT Ambulance Service

Hi. I've added a new page on the ACT Ambulance Service, initially focussing on the history of the service. I'm interested in Canberra history (especially emergency services) and public education - both of which are pretty hot topics at the moment.

I'm also a newbie to Wikipedia editing (although have coded HTML before) - so as above, if I'm doing something wrong or violating some commonly held community convention, please let me know. --Alpha993 11:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

A couple of articles that might warrant creating

Considering the unprecedented nature of this year's budget and the controversy surrounding it, am I the only one that thinks that 2006-07 Australian Capital Territory budget might make for an interesting article? We certainly haven't heard the last of the issue, and won't for some time.

I've also been wondering if the Narrabundah caravan park debacle might warrant an article, considering the press attention it has been getting in Canberra, its ramifications for both political parties, and its status as an ongoing issue. Any thoughts? Rebecca 08:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• Some of us would have a hard time bringing an NPOV to either topic at this stage - I am not sure one is supposed ot write such articles when one is angry :-) I also am not sure whether they are encyclopaedic or not. Do they belong in Wikinews instead and then we review it to bring them across? --A Y Arktos\^talk 09:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I think this territory budget is likely to be historically important, and I was hoping that someone would write an article on the federal budget (though I think that's less notable than this territory one); IMHO, they have the potential to be quite interesting articles. I'm not sure if it's worth writing an article about them at Wikinews first - Wikinews is struggling somewhat, and I'm not sure anyone from Canberra even reads it. There should be plenty of press articles, anyway - it even made the front page of the Telegraph in Sydney today. I'm not so sure about Narrabundah, but the story doesn't seem to be going away any time soon, and it's probably going to flare up again in earnest when they actually do get evicted. Rebecca 10:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• I have started a stub on the budget at 2006-07 Australian Capital Territory budget--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Is there any chance someone might update Andrew Barr and Jon Stanhope with the latest developments over all this? They're starting to get out of date, and I'd do it today, but if I don't actually get home and start preparing for my last law exam I'm going to fail. Rebecca 02:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

2006-07 Australian Capital Territory budget

Would others like to look at 2006-07 Australian Capital Territory budget. What would you expect to find in an article about the budget? Comparisons with other jurisdictions might be something that would be interesting but too hard at the moment (for me anyway).--A Y Arktos\^talk 12:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

• The one major thing that would be helpful is a section about the reaction, which is why this budget is so notable. If possible, it'd be nice to have a bit more info about the public service mergers (i.e. ACTION no longer being a separate authority). I may be wrong, but I remember hearing that basically all the money for new public housing had also been cut, on top of what is listed in the housing section. Rebecca 04:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

List of buildings and structures in the Australian Capital Territory

Hi, I started this list ages ago - but have just moved it to the main namespace. There are lots of gaps to fill in if anyone is interested.--Peta 06:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Stub tags

I have been working on several Tuggeranong suburbs: Gowrie, Fadden, Macarthur, Gilmore and Chisholm. Have these suburbs reached the point where the stub tags can be removed, or do they need more information? If the latter, what are they lacking?

Nice work Will. They're all well past the definition of a stub at Wikipedia:stub. I'd say go for it. - Gimboid13 10:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Can I help?

I'm pretty much new to editing wikipedia, but if I could be of assistance, then I'd be more than happy to - though I'm not sure what I should do.

I'm especially happy to do work on schools in the ACT, if that's something useful.

If someone could give me a direction to work in, then that would be appreciated. Byron Vickers 10:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to start wherever you're interested in - there's always work to do. Many schools could do with articles, but there's also plenty of room for work on ACT suburbs, landmarks and politics if you're interested in any of those. :) Rebecca 03:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Photos

Was anyone living in Canberra around the time Parliament House (the new one) was being built, and if so do you have pictures?--Peta 02:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Group Centres

I've noticed some of the larger group centres - Dickson, Kippax and Jamison, among others - have articles devoted to them. I'd like to know what others think of the smaller group centres, such as Calwell and Curtin. Should all of the group centres have articles, or just the major ones? WA Burdett 12:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The larger centres got them because they were important and more well known than the suburbs that contained them - for similar reasons to those that saw Manuka get its own article. I see no reason why the smaller centres could not just go in the suburb article. Rebecca 04:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Rebecca. Another example is Erindale Centre in Wanniassa. Centres such as Calwell and Curtin could just be mentioned in the suburbs themselves. When you get to something like Bonython, for example, it's even smaller than Calwell and Curtin so it would be hard to find somewhere to draw the line. Tim 12:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I think a good rule of thumb with these things is looking at whether the centre has a different name to that of the suburb it is located in. If it does, chances are it deserves a seperate article (perhaps with one or two exceptions). If it doesn't, I really can't see any need to have one. Rebecca 23:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

And another new contributor (Old Parliament House)

I added some more detail on Old Parliament House, as the article was fairly sketchy. I am new to this, so I hope it is useful and I have not violated any important conventions. Happy to contribute further articles on architecture over time. Maecenas 09:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Shortcut

Shortcut created! Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 01:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Canberra Image requests

Got any Image requests? I have a Camera and a Bike that I'd like to use. If you have a picture request please list it on my talk page for a faster response. Thanks, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 23:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

most suburb articles dont have an image yet --Astrokey44 09:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 16:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

New Infobox

A Canberra resident has started a topic on Template talk:Infobox Australian Place. The template being proposed will within a few weeks replace all Australian place templates, including Template:Infobox Canberra Suburb. We are going to try and accommodate the issue of ACT having districts rather than LGA's, but the name of the district will probably have to be entered in the LGA field but be correctly labelled on the final page.

The Canberra project team has kept the infoboxes nice and clean so in visual terms there will probably be little difference between what is there now and what will be. However, this will make available fields that have been developed for other Australian city projects (such as distance, climate etc). All the details are on the page above. Please feel welcome to add your comments or suggestions, the more people we have contributing to this, the better result we will have. Thanks :) Orderinchaos 05:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for Work

Hello, I'm Dfrg.msc, and I want to make some constructive edits to Wikipedia. It's not that I am unable to, I would just like some guidance. So, if you have any specific tasks related to this topic, please inform me on my talk page, be specific and include links and I'll help out as soon as I can. Thanks, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 07:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Setting up disambiguation

I'm relatively new here, so I felt it might be good to ask before I make a change. My question is, what is the process to set up a disambiguation page for the two Melrose High School articles?

Essentially in looking through the List of schools in the Australian Capital Territory I noticed that Melrose High School was linking to a school in America. Having attending MHS I thought I might as well create an article for it, and I have: Melrose High School (Canberra)

Can I go in and just move the original page to Melrose High School (Melrose)? I'm just worried about etiquette, perhaps I might not get a favourable response to a change like that. Anybody have any advice? :) -- Daedalus 08:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Daedalus. Your proposal is in line with the policy for naming schools at Wikipedia:Naming conventions#School_names and the linked Wikipedia:Naming conventions (schools). Just out of courtesy you might post a message on the article's talk page and wait a few days to see if you get any response. A possible alternative would be to leave the original article where it is and add a top link to both articles, but I think your idea is better. Wikipedia:Disambiguation has instructions for creating a disambiguation page. Let me know if you'd like any help. Gimboid13 19:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the information. I've made the required changes and everything appears to be fine :) -- Daedalus 07:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. You seem to finding your way around very well. I noticed you still haven't received the standard Wikipedia welcome though, so I've posted it on your talk page. Hope some of it's useful. Gimboid13 09:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Should Melrose High School (Canberra) be added to this wikiproject? Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools ? --RobBrisbane 02:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Certainly it should be in the Canberra project. In my opinion the shcools project is just too big , but you could add it in, but don't expect any support from that project, there are just too many pages in it, and most of the interest would be local. GB 03:04, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Willing to contribute

Although I have been using Wikipedia for some time now, I am totally new to editing. I live in the Woden area, and saw that most of the suburb articles there are stubs, so I guess that would be as good a place as any to start? Dikko 22:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Dikko. It's a bit quiet here at the moment, but I'm sure any contributions you'd like to make would be much appreciated. Gimboid13 09:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Well I wonder if it would be worth having a template (or list?) for the major headings - history, geography, demographics, amenities, transport, etc. Also for politics presumably best to link to pages for each electorate? --Dikko 09:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Dikko, all those topics are worth including in a full article. I was told to follow the Yarralumla, Australian Capital Territory example, as that has made it to Featured article status at least once. In the geography part you can include any hills or creeks, and the general slope of the land. You could mention highest and lowest point. You could have pronounciation of the name in phonetics for the non english readers. You could mention famous people who live in the suburb. Some exotica could be IP number block registered in the suburb or famous companies or interesting businesses (if there are any!) GB 11:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Yarralumla

Yarralumla is the featured article on wikipedia today. Howdoes this happen? Dikko 06:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

see Wikipedia:Today's featured article --Astrokey44 04:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

embassies?

Should we have separate articles for Canberra's embassies as with Ottawa? At least Embassy of the United States in Canberra should get its own article --Astrokey44 04:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the Embassies and High Commissions deserve articles. Some might be difficult to make into more than just a stub, but others could have substanial sections on their history and desgin.WA Burdett 06:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd say only if they are architecturally or historically notable, like Australia House in London. Otherwise, they can simply be covered in Yarralumla or the relevant foreign relations articles (such as United States-Australia relations).--cj | talk 12:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Fauna

I have started an article on Fauna of the Australian Capital Territory. I will add in a bit more about lizards and molluscs eventually as well as some categories. I would appreciate a bird expert to add into the bird section. Also I need to find out about worms - earth, flat and round that are found in the ACT. Are there any good pictures of ACT animals around? GB 11:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Canberra founders

What do people think about a category to include people who were notable in the planning and construction of Canberra; people like Griffin, Weston, O'Malley, Sulman etc? --Peta 06:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Is everyone okay?

I hope everyone fared okay through last night's storm, and didn't suffer any property damage. The sight this morning is...I'm not sure I've seen anything quite like it. How did you all fare? (On a more project-related note, did anyone get any photos?) Rebecca 00:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

saw the light show, but it wasnt too bad here. The riotact has some good pictures --Astrokey44 11:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

just remembered there are some showing the damage to the Canberra Centre: Image:Canberra c damage.jpg and Image:Cctr4.jpg --Astrokey44 10:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Map

Heres a cool map from the National Library collection.. from the 1840s, and it shows 'Tageranong', 'Ginninderry', 'Camberry', 'Jerabombera', 'Yarrowlumla', 'Mt.Ainsley' and Pialigo! Interesting to note the name of Moore's property is Camberry with an 'M', rather than Canberry with 'N' as it says on the Canberra article.. so which one is right? --Astrokey44 11:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool map indeed! I've always assumed that Kamberry/Camberry were more "accurate" than Canberry. However, that's only because Kamberry was the first instance I ever saw of the "y" ending (ca. 30y.a.) and I don't think I'd ever seen the "Canberry" rendition until now. That said, Googlefightsays that Canberry = 31,700; Kamberry = 9,880; and Camberry = 1,990. Wow. Even allowing for Canberry being a mispledding of Cranberry, there are 27,500 hits. Hmmm... Ossipewsk 05:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

2006 census data

Census data from the ABS will be available in June this year. I will provide the link when the data becomes available. The data can be used as a source for unsourced tidbits in infoboxes. Until then, here's the link to some census 2001 data for use. –Sebi ~ 07:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Suburb directions in infoboxes

I've noticed a few suburb infoboxes that seem to have directions mixed up where they have the surrounding suburbs (eg. Red Hill has Narrabunda to the west, and Garran to the east). I'll try to fix up any errors I notice. --RobBrisbane 09:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Meeting perhaps?

Hi there Canberra members. This might be cheeky but what the heck. I'm a fairly new member of Wikipedia and have come across a couple of other Canberrans crossing my path in Wikiland. I gather the West Australians get together every now and then. I'm wondering whether we would like to too. Would anyone be interested in meeting at the Bookplate at the National Library of Australia - where better for Wikipedians to meet? - this Saturday July 7 at 2.30pm? Would you please post your responses here or at my page? Of course, if you wish to stay anonymous that's fine but if you'd like to meet up let's do it. Sterry2607 11:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy to meet up with people sometime, but I'm afraid I can't do this Saturday, as I'm still out of the territory. If it can wait another week or so, I'll certainly try and come. Rebecca 12:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response Rebecca. I've heard from one person who can make this Saturday but not the next two after that. I'm OK the next few but not 28 July. Can you please give me a couple of dates that would suit you and I'll see what consensus we get. If I get enough for this week we'll go with that and then see what people would like to do from then on. If, however, a later date suits we'll organise that. OK? Sterry2607 12:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I should be back in Canberra some time around the 16th - any time after that should be fine. If it doesn't suit others to wait, however, perhaps I might be able to come along to the next one instead. :) Rebecca 12:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)