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Magnet Lab images

More info is now on tags at Image:National_High_Magnetic_Field_Lab02.jpg and Image:National_High_Magnetic_Field_Lab00.png explaining that due to uniqueness of image or security issues, one cannot obtain a photo. Need further explanation? I can provide details. Thanks. Noles1984 13:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the photograph, you may have a point. (It would be good if you could provide evidence that the subject is not available to the public, however.) But for the diagram, anyone could create a new diagram based on the information in the image, so I still believe that image is replaceable. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 14:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your bot

Has created this page, and I assume will be creating other similar ones: Lunetiï¿½Re De Rotgï¿½S

Oh dear... 195.137.30.238 17:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm testing it. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 17:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

She's still failing her tests, but I'm cleaning up after her. (It's like she's not house-trained yet.) My source is encoded in ISO-8859-1, but Wikipedia uses UTF-8. I never thought I'd have to dig this deep into character encoding to run a bot, but life's full of surprizes. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Area 51

Please don't tag the image for deletion, it is used to illustrate area 51, and is currently the highest resolution image available of the area, so it can't really be replaced with another free image.Rodrigue 19:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, a free replacement could be made, and the image is therefore replaceable. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 19:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:SingaporeStone-bwphoto.jpg

Hi, I just received a standard notice from you about Image:SingaporeStone-bwphoto.jpg. I did state the reason why I believe the image is not replaceable on the "image" page – did you read it before tagging the image with {{di-replaceable fair use}}? If so, what are your reasons for disagreeing with the explanation? It is rather dispiriting to receive a standard notice when I did take the time to explain why I believe the image to be non-replaceable. Cheers, Jacklee 19:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I read it. You said that photographs probably aren't allowed in the museum, but without evidence of that, we have to assume that the image is replaceable (since the subject still exists). If you can provide evidence that the image is not replaceable (e.g. a link to the museum's policy of not allowing photography), then dispute it and I'm sure it won't be deleted. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 19:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this. The points that you made prompted me to look at the website of the National Museum of Singapore (go to http://www.nationalmuseum.sg, select "Facilities" and click on "Photography and filming"). It states: "Still photography for private, non-commercial use as a visitor to the Museum is allowed. The use of a flash and tripod is prohibited." Photography for the purpose of Wikipedia is probably not private and non-commercial, because Wikipedia is accessible to the public, and photographs uploaded under the GFDL may be used for commercial purposes. Is this sufficient justification for non-free fair use of the photograph? I look forward to your views. Cheers, Jacklee 19:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that's complex. Deciding whether to allow or bar photography is an internal museum rule, not a part of copyright law, so I don't think the museum has any legal right to say what you can do with your photographs after you take them (though they can tell you whether you can take photographs or not). In order to use a photo on Wikipedia, it has to be licensed by the copyright-holder to allow non-commercial use, but I think that would be up to the photographer, not the museum. It looks to be like if you tell the museum "I'm taking this photo for personal use", then they'll let you photograph it, and then they can't legally stop you from licensing the image under the GFDL and uploading it to Wikipedia (or using it commercially, for that matter). But it sounds like you would have to lie, at least implicitly, to do so. I'm not sure where that puts us in terms of Wikipedia policy, so I asked for further input at Wikipedia:Fair_use_review#13_July_2007. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 20:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it would be interesting to find out the answer. Of course it would be difficult for the museum to control what people do with photographs they have taken at the Museum, but then taking the line that images of artefacts at the Museum are replaceable implicitly encourages people to breach the contractual terms of their entry into the Museum. Cheers, Jacklee 05:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You don't smell very good

That wasn't very nice. There's no harm in studing. It's very important, it keeps your house from falling down. --Kbdank71 21:07, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You know, people dropping by my talk page are going to have no idea what you're talking about. :) – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 00:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Snap Server Photo

I have recieved a response from Adapetec regarding the snapserver photo granting permission and I have sent it to: permissions-en@wikimedia.org Do I need to do anything else regarding this photo? Image:SnapServer-NA.jpg

Cisco has replied, that the permission rquest is in progress for all the Cisco and Linksys images. Do you think you can hold off on deleting any of them for another week? It seems that have a maze that needs to go through to grant permission.

Also could you undelete image: Linksys48portswitch.jpg

I have asked for permission for all the photos and Cisco owns linksys.

Best Regards,

Al --akc9000 ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 21:41, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cisco has responded as well. --akc9000 ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 23:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Keiko Nakazawa.jpg

Your comment would be appreciated at User_talk:Rettetast#Fair_use_rationale_on_Keiko_Nakazawa_picture. Rette tast 22:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I replied there. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ogre image

hello, you asked for a reason why that image is unreplaceable... i am confident that a free use image could be found, but is it possible to keep the image until a fair use is found. perhaps put a note under the image in the article or something. please resond on my talk page. Naufana : talk 22:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Free Image for Area 51

According to the policy you used, only an "acceptable quality" image can be used to replace the non-free Area 51 image.But the one from Google Earth is in much greater detail than any other available imagery of the area, and judging from the one I was replacing it with, only that image can suffice for an encyclopedia. Rodrigue 22:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right. But the point is, a photograph of similar quality could be created, even if one isn't available at the moment. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need help tagging the photos

I have the emails from Cisco and Adaptec. Basically Cisco has a URL that outlines everything that can be done with any photo. So that solves the all the Cisco and Linksys photos issue. But I do not know how to tag the photo. The url lets you do anything you want with the photo so long as it is stated it is Copyrighted by them and it is not altered with the exception of resizing or cropping.

Adaptec states that the photo can be viewed. copied, resized, anything we want, but may not be altered other than resizing or cropping, and must state it is copyrighted by them. So could you tell me which tag to use and how to use it?

The Adaptec photo is: Image:SnapServer-NA.jpg and if you could tell me how to do it for Cisco for example: Image:Cisco7600seriesrouter.jpg that would be great. I tried to do it but I do not think I did it properly.

Please advise me since I want to do this properly. --akc9000 ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 23:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you did it right to me. Good job! – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:40, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore image Image:Linksys befsr8.jpg

Could you please undelete this image for me. I have this image covered as well.

Thanks!

Al --akc9000 ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 00:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's undeleted. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore image Image:Kira and Nrabuttons by Kira Blue eyes.jpg

Er, drawn by a friend of mine, not Disney by any means. Definitely a free-use image, cleared for use on my User Page. Please undelete, and I'll fix up the licensing statement so that it makes better sense. Thanks! NraButtons 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored Image:Kira and Nrabuttons by Kira Blue eyes.jpg, but it doesn't currently have a license. Please pick an image licensing tag for the image. Wikipedia:Image licensing tags has all the info you need. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Delay Mugshot.jpg

I guess you forgot to really deleted this one. --Abu badali ^(talk) 01:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I don't want it deleted, but I can't defend it's use. I can't claim that it shouldn't be deleted, but I'm not really motivated to delete it myself either. Call it the non-participation vote. :-) – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 01:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry. I though that your comment was actually an closing-statement. And I completely misunderstood this diff where you added July 9 to the "old discussions": I though you were removing it. I forgot my pills today. --Abu badali ^(talk) 01:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We got you covered. ;-) – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 02:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Licensing question

If someone sends me an image with a GFDL license, can I put it on my Flickr account with a CC-by or CC-by-SA license, or do I have to mark it as 'all rights reserved', since I didn't create the content myself? I'm still trying to learn about downstream use and license compatibility. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 04:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the CC licenses aren't compatible with the GFDL. This sucks. If it's GFDL, you can't mark it as being under a creative commons license. Just say "All rights reserved", and mention that it's released under the GFDL in the image's text.

For a while, there was some movement towards making these licenses compatible. See this archived Signpost article, along with related info here and here from the CC folks. Unfortunately, it seems to have gone nowhere. I haven't seen any mentions of this anywhere since late 2005. Sigh. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 04:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that helps. I think I'll change my permission requests to CC as opposed to GFDL to simplify things. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 04:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence Pech -- why was the image deleted?

I fully admit to being very ignorant on this topic, and all the terms "fair use" and "nearly replaceable" are a mystery to me.

You deleted the image of Lawrence Pech from his listing. That image is the property of the Lawrence Pech Dance Company, of which I am the administrator. I give full permission for this image to appear. Please tell me exactly what I need to do or say or attest in order to get the image restored.

Thanks,

Michael Temlin

Image of

Hi the image found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Bradford_Raschke

I have emailed WP with the permission request and the response from the image owner. She said it was ok to use the image !

Thanks

Image:SPL_trophy.jpg

I strongly disagree with your tagging of Image:SPL_trophy.jpg. You assert that a freely licensed image could reasonably be found. Having previously searched for such an image I beg to differ, unless you have performed a similar search and have a replacement image up your sleeve? I would also like to know why Image:SPL_trophy.jpg is being tagged for deletion while fundamentally identical images such as Image:DBU-trophy.jpg or Image:Lennartjohanssonspokal.jpg are apparently acceptable. The latter having been uploaded by an administrator! Thank you. Kanaye 12:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]