Talk:Prabir Ghosh
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Books by Prabir Ghosh
There is currently just a long, incorrectly formatted list in this section. We need a source that he wrote these books - http://humanists.net/avijit/prabir/sra.htm lists the books, but doesn't explicitly say that he wrote them. And even if he wrote them, this long list with copied descriptions is not appropriate to an encyclopedia (better to give a link).
Some of the books are listed at http://www.mukto-mona.com/link/book.htm credited to Ghosh - but it's a partial list and appears to be copied from the humanists.net page above. --Singkong2005 talk 12:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have removed the bulk of the books, re-formatted the section into a more standard list and removed the tag. Michaelbusch 00:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
NPOV Biography
This section seems overly laudatory. He may be a great guy, but his biography needs to be less praise for him than information about him. 35.11.78.96 03:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Concur. It currently reads like a letter of reference. Michaelbusch 16:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
A definite peacock problem here with statements like, "With this knowledge of the human mind, his keen sense of politics gives him an insight and a rare understanding of all human problems." Needs a good scrub but if you remove all the extraneous stuff, there's little left.
- Not only did the biography have peacock problems, it had apparently been copied verbatim from here, so I removed it entirely. — Elembis 23:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Prabir Ghosh: Rationalist or a fake doctor?
This is Sukanta. I have visited the page on Prabir Ghosh. The page claims many things which in turn glorify Mr. Ghosh. I know Prabir Ghosh very well. So, I find it necessary to inform you some facts about this person:
1. The claim in the page talking about "20 times life attempts" is radiculously false. Not a single immediate news report can be produced to corroborate this, and any line of cross checking of its sources would surely lead none other than Mr. Ghosh himself. Many of his claims of 'rationalist exposure' of some alleged miraculous events are also fabricated.
2. This Prabir Ghosh is little more than a fake medical practitioner. In some books written by himself, he claimed himself to be a psychiatric healer, particularly a hypnotherapist, without having acquired any relevant training or academic qualification. I have collected those documents. I am giving here just two documents, collected from his book 'Dharma-Seva-Sammohan', where he calls himself a "Dr." and describes his "treatement procedure". However, the document is in Bengali. You may please translate them.
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Page 36 of Dharma-Seva-Sammohan
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Page 39 of Dharma-Seva-Sammohan
3. Hypnotherapic treatment procedures elaborately described by him in one of his books have been reviewed by renowned experts of this field from three different quarters – namely Indian Medical Association ( West Bengal Chapter), a Kolkata based professional organization of psychiatrists and psychologists called Diagnostic and Applied Neuropsychiatric Association and Prof. Arup Ghoshal, Reader of the Department of Applied Psychology of Kolkata University. All the three reports have separately but equivocally rejected Prabir Ghosh’s special techniques of hypnotherapy as not only unscientific but also perverted. Again, the health department of the West Bengal state government opined in black and white that Mr. Ghosh's book on hypotherapy is unscientific, obscene and condemable under section 292 of Indian Penal Code. I am having the copies of all the reports. Few documents are attached here. I have also a few videos that show his "hypnotherapic treatement".
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Report of Indian Medical Association (1)
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Report of Indian Medical Association (2)
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Report of Diagnostic and Applied Neuropsychiatric Association
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Report of Prof. Arup Ghoshal
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Letter of health department
4. Prabir Ghosh has against him several allegations of sexual harassments of his female ‘patients’ in the name of hypnotherapic treatment.
5. Prabir Ghosh also engaged himself in abusing a woman complainant with filthy words through telephone, a fact clearly substantiated by a report of the department of telecommunications of the Govt. of India and by a charge sheet prepared by the local police station. In this connection too, a state-versus case against Prabir Ghosh under section 509 IPC is pending in the Barrackpur Criminal Court (DUM DUM P.S. case No. 329 of 1996).
6. This Prabir Ghosh was actually expelled on the charge of such acts of fraudulence and malpractice from Bharatia Bigyan O Yuktibadi Samiti (Science & Rationalists’ Association of India) long back in 1996, and the news was covered by widely circulated Bengali dailies. I had collected those news clippings. Fews are produced here.
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Cliping of KALANTAR (Kolkata, dt.- 19/08/1996)
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Cliping of SAMBAD PRATIDIN (Kolkata, dt.- 19/08/1996)
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Cliping of AAJKAL (Kolkata, dt.- 19/08/1996)
7. A news channel (Kolkata TV) from India had broadcasted a news on June 11, 2007 that Wikipedia had ranked Prabir Ghosh as World's number one rationalist. I was shocked to hear the news. I did mail to wikipedia and they strongly ignored the whole thing. I am quite sure, Prabir was personally involved to abuse the media. Currently, a site is maintained claiming the same. To check, you may visit the following link [1]. This site is also maintained by Prabir Ghosh & company.
The page is probably violating the policy on biographies of living persons [2].
Response to the above allegations of Gour Adhikari (in disguise Sukanta) can be found here:
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/prabir/charge_against_prabir.htm
Thanks to the person who actually added above two lines. I have gone through the above mentioned site. However, I donot find any response to the allegations. It is again and again claimed that Prabir Ghosh is the general secretary of SRAI. But the "response" is completely silent about the allegations raised against him. Moreover, Prabir proposed the theory - "The whole conspiracy was instigated by a group of astrologers & funded N.G.O.s". If he is sure that this is conspiracy, he should give at least one proof which shows, this is really a "conspiracy" and "instigated by a group of astrologers & funded N.G.O.s". Readers, please go through the above mentioned link, and decide, why the "response" is silent about the allegations raised against him.
By the way, I am not Gour Adhikari, I am Sukanta Das. But I know Gour Adhikari as well as Prabir Ghosh. Gour Adhikari and me can be identified separately as both of us are government employee.
A FILTHY CONSPIRACY TO DEFAME PRABIR GHOSH FOR HIS GREAT WORK
sukanta has given some information of the year 1996, but is silent about wat happened since last 11 years. wat is the outcome of the investigation and court cases? does he has even a single case # where prabir ghosh was convicted? no . because till date prabir ghosh has won all the cases and didnot loose any. these conspirators were not able to proove anything SO THEY DECIDED TO TAKE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY...PROPAGANDA TO DEFAME THE RATIONALIST LEADER. people who are posting these are are liars, antisocials and enemy of rationalist movement. they get paid from astrologers and godmen to destroy rationalist movement. I know prabir ghosh since 1991-92. the above post is just a filthy conspiracy of magician, godmen, astrologers and funded NGOs to defame prabir for his work on rationalist and humanist movement. Gour or Sukanta is just a pawn in the conspiracy. 1) prabir ghosh had devoted his life to burst the gurus, godmen , astrologers and faith healers. these news had been published in all leading print media and electonic media of india and abroad some of which are Times, BBC, NGC, Australlia network and many more. 2) if whatever claimed by sukanta about fake doctorate degree of prabir ghosh is true, prabir ghosh can be charged of criminal offence and can be put behind bars. but instead of taking a legal course sukanta prefereed to post those info here. smells very fishy . in 1996 august few members were expelled from SRAI. those people claimed that prabir ghosh has a doctorate degree that is fake. it was investigated by the enforcement department and the report and the outcome of that investigation was prabir ghosh has done nothing illegal. 3) tele- teasing is also a criminal offence . i see that sukanto had given a gd #. was any charge filed against prabir ghosh? was he convicted? let me tell you the answer is no. 'TILL DATE THERE ARE AROUND 14 LAW SUIT THET PRABIR GHOSH WON AGAINST THESE HOODLUMS. THESE FILTHY CONSPIRATORS DIDNOT WIN EVEN 1 LAW SUIT AGAINST PRABIR GHOSH.' 4) SUTAPA BANDAPADHYAY an EXPELLED MEMBER OF SRAI filed a case against prabir ghosh for molestation and sexual harrashment . PRABIR GHOSH WON THAT CASE RECENTLY ON 21ST MARCH 07. 5)bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity ( srai) is a regiistered organisation. the register says that prabir ghosh was never expelled and is the general sec of the organisation without any break. in 1996 some conspirators had given an info to media that prabir ghosh was expelled. also after that media had potrayed prabir ghosh as gen sec of SRAI many times.
I DEMAND THAT THE POST OF SUKANTA SHOULD
BE DELETED AS THE INFORMATION ARE FALSE AND POSTED TO DEFAME PRABIR GHOSH. otherwise it'll ruin the reputaion of wikipedia.
if we dont have the liability to proove what we post anyone can post whatever they want. if i dont have any responsibility to prove my claim like sukanta i can say that sukanta has been convicted of raping minors and also his mother was arrested for prostitution. By DEBASIS CHATTERJEE secretary BHARATIYA BIGYAN O YUKTIBADI SAMITY --Rationalistdebasis 18:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
THE POST "Prabir Ghosh: Rationalist or a fake doctor?" SHOULD BE DELETED
The post 'Prabir Ghosh: Rationalist or a fake doctor?' should be deleted as the information given in that post are false. sukanta mentioned that prabir ghosh was expelled in 1996, but what he kept secret is that there were number of court cases that were filed . as debashis mentioned , prabir ghosh has won all the cases and didnot loose any. according to the court judgement , prabir ghosh is the general secretary of bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity without any DISCONTINUITY. that means according to court prabir ghosh was never expelled frm bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity. these people are incorrigible liars and they are trying to create a bad name for prabir ghosh as they are paid by astrologers and godmen. these type of nasty and falsified post should be deleted SREYA BANERJEE BAHRATIYA BIGYAN O YUKTIBADI SAMITY -BANGALORE BRANCH
THE POST'Prabir Ghosh: Rationalist or a fake doctor' IS BASED ON FALSIFIED INFORMATION. SO IT SHOULD BE DELETED
The post by sukanta Prabir Ghosh: Rationalist or a fake doctor is base on false allegation with the intention to defame prabir ghosh as a person. so it should be deleted. sukanta posted a newspaper clipping of 19.08.96 but forgot to mention whom newspaper and media potrayed as general secretary of bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samiti since last 11 years. it's not illogical to anticipate that sukanta gets paid from a particular group for being ignorant and spreading these message. let me post some newspaper clippings post 19.08.96
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sonar bangla news
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Sambad Pratidin news
in 1996 some members were expelled from bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity.
these expelled members filed cases at District court & the City Civil court, complaining that Prabir Ghosh was illegally working as the G.S. of bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity (S.R.A.I.) they lost the case in city civil court. the copy of the judgement are furnished below
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citi civil court judgement pg1
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city civil court judgement pg2
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citi civil court judgement pg3
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citi civil court judgement pg4
'Against this, the opponents went to the High Court
'and lost the case there too.'
the copy of judgement of high court is furnished below
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high court judgement pg1
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high court judgement pg2
Bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity is a registered organisation. The Registrar of Societies, in their certified copy of annual returns, has mentioned the name of Prabir Ghosh as the General Secretary of the association, and the address of the regd. office is 72/8, Debinibas Road, Kolkata 700074, since the inception of the assn. in 1989. till today. the certified copy are furnished below
more: <gallery> Image:certifiedcopy1.jpg|certified copy of registrar Image:certifiedcopy2.jpg|certified copy of registrar pg2 Image:certified copy3.jpg|certified copy of registrar pg3 </gallery SOME IMPOSTERS (GAUR ADHIKARI IS 1 OF THEM) WERE MISUSING THE NAME OF BHARATIYA BIGYAN O YUKTIBADI SAMITY AND SOME OF THEM ALSO PROCLAIM THEMSELVES AS GENERAL SECRETARY OF BHARATIYA BIGYAN O YUKTIBADI SAMITY. WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS ILLEGAL AND CHEATING. W. Bengal government has taken steps against the conspirators for illegal activities, false allegation & defamation, and sent a copy to Prabir Ghosh considering him as the gen sec of bharatiya bigyan o yuktibadi samity. the copy is furnished below