Talk:Hipgnosis
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I added a partial list of works using http://www.sound.jp/hipgnosis/yapwall/yhip.html as a reference, not truly authoritative but much better than the zilch that was here before. We need:
- links for the albums
- to fix some of the artist links (I realize I was a bit sloppy)
- verify years and spelling of the artists
- flush out the catalog
- a better history
Hipgnosis worked with some of the biggest bands of the 70's - at a time when "The Album" on the whole had a meaning. They deserve a well researched entry.
- What about illustrator George Hardie? And I agree with above. Two Halves
Freeze Frame
I just added the Godley & Creme album Freeze Frame, which came out in 1979. This is definitely a Hipgnosis cover; it makes me suspicious that J Geils Band's album of the name is also credited to Hipgnosis. Grimhim 01:20, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- I think you're right. The cover for the J. Geils Band album does not look at all like Hipgnosis's work. I removed it. -Freekee 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Richard Evans
People keep trying to make "Richard Evans" into a link. The rule is that we never link to a disambiguation page because following that link does not give us any useful information about the person - only a list of other people of that name. Until this Richard Evans gets his own article, please stop linking it. -Freekee 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
= Clean Up
i'd like to request a clean-up of the list of work they have done. i think all albums by one band should be grouped together as opposed to scattered, e.g. the led zeppelin albums. can someone please arrange them in alphabetical order by BAND not by title of album.
thanks. --Flvg94 22:44, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- I thought it was good arranged by year. If you want to see it arranged by band, you could go the band's discography. -Freekee 03:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image...
I removed the fair-use warning boilerplate text from this talk page, as it is no longer relevant, since the images were deleted. -Freekee 20:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
What genius....
What genius removed the images from this article? Hipgnosis was a graphic design outfit: To strip this article of examples of their work—some of which were iconic and thus notable—is to essentially gut the article. --TallulahBelle 02:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- User:Moe Epsilon did. Maybe you should ask him about it. -Freekee 03:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Don't readd copyright violations, do it again and I'll start handing out warnings for such. — Moe ε 04:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, nice. -Freekee 05:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- Would you please explain why the caption, "The Dark Side of the Moon — One of Hipgnosis' most famous album covers." underneath an image of the album cover does not constitute fair use? -Freekee 05:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter how famous it is, it's copyright. One sentence is not enough to apply fair use, you have to have significant commentary about the image to merit it's inclusion. Adding images here is like adding a discography to this article, which is strickly against WP:NONFREE and has been removed all over Wikipedia. — Moe ε 06:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. I think that giving an example of the work that is responsible for an artist's stardom is good enough. I'd replace the image and suggest you take the dispute to a higher court, but I'm sure that what drives people to serve in such a group is the desire to delete. -Freekee 23:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to discuss policy changes here on Wikipedia fine. But U.S. law cannot be changed by the likes of a conversation by yourself. Sorry. — Moe ε 01:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not talking about law. I'm talking about your interpretation of policy, which I don't believe there is broad consensus for, except among a certain group of editors who make it a point to do something according to their beliefs. -Freekee 03:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well that general consensus is among the editors here at Wikipedia, and it is law, see the article on fair use, these kinds of things have to be taken seriously. — Moe ε 20:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not talking about law. I'm talking about your interpretation of policy, which I don't believe there is broad consensus for, except among a certain group of editors who make it a point to do something according to their beliefs. -Freekee 03:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to discuss policy changes here on Wikipedia fine. But U.S. law cannot be changed by the likes of a conversation by yourself. Sorry. — Moe ε 01:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. I think that giving an example of the work that is responsible for an artist's stardom is good enough. I'd replace the image and suggest you take the dispute to a higher court, but I'm sure that what drives people to serve in such a group is the desire to delete. -Freekee 23:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter how famous it is, it's copyright. One sentence is not enough to apply fair use, you have to have significant commentary about the image to merit it's inclusion. Adding images here is like adding a discography to this article, which is strickly against WP:NONFREE and has been removed all over Wikipedia. — Moe ε 06:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- But that's beside the point. Moe, what sort of thing could I say about the cover of DSOM, in order to make it a worthwhile addtion to the article? -Freekee 03:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- There would have to be a major article section about DSOTM in order for it do make fair use applicable. A single sentence or two saying that Hipgnosis made it, and it's iconic, doesn't cut it. A paragraph or two of why the picture is iconic, how Hipgnosis came up with the design, the popularity of the album in general, etc. should be discussed. — Moe ε 20:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)