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==The site TITUS have some old texts of old languages not available elsewhere, e.g. the Khotanese language, there is no elsewhere site give the samples==Gaia2767spm 23:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are sample texts in TITUS project. The wikipedia page do not have a text sample and TITUS project has. There are links of glossaries that helps readers. For the less known languages, isn't the samples and the glossaries useful?Gaia2767spm 00:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some materials are copyrighted and external links needed. People have bias, perhaps u r right that TITUS and the Indo-european database may not be valuable to the pages. But there is to contribute and no mean to spam,Gaia2767spm 01:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A double revert by u may be needed for u r point. 1. For a language, relevant sample texts are helpful for readers to know more about the language. So are now in external links of many other languages wikipages. 2. For a modern language, an external link of radio would be better examples, so TITUS may not be relevant. For old languages, the readers may want to know more, e.g. for big structure and word list, the external links supports wikipedia pages, for reasons of copyright, completion of ideas and limitation in size of wikipedia pages, the less important information may be links for further reading of the readers. 3. The TITUS and the The Indo-European Database have been suggested by contributors earlier, e.g. in pages Proto-Indo-European language&Lydian language, so there should be some value in that.Gaia2767spm 10:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If u sure u r points are right, and is better for the readers, then any revert would ok.Gaia2767spm 11:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Know what is spamming as user:Gareth Hughes told. Sorry for adding too many links from the same site to the pages.Gaia2767spm 15:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Periyar

Sorry thought it was a vandalism and reverted it. Anyways the section on Ramasami and Tamil Language is too blunt now. May be should remove the whole section. Thanks. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 00:54, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

== Pandyas ==

Parthi, While the Chola history has been covered in great detail, thanks to you and others, I feel the Pandyan history could use some time and effort. Esp., the Sangam age and the second empire (12th-13th century). I started working on the early pandyas few days back - along the lines of the Chola articles. It's still under development, but I think the article would need some expert involvement, given the importance. So, please look through it when you have time and comment. Thanks Lotlil 14:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have written the society section in my sandbox that I will be scrubbing and adding references to, before creating an article for it. Please also review it and edit, as you see fit. Thanks! Lotlil 17:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Parthi, I started writing the sandbox article intending to make it a side-article for the main article Early Pandyan Kingdom. I've been using material from books or sections that deal with Pandyas. If you would like to expand it into Ancient Tamil Society, we can work on that too, I dont think it will be too different. We will have more sources to quote from. In any case, let me know once you get a chance to go through the main article. I will work on adding references to my sandbox in the mean time . Lotlil 23:41, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please check your email. Thanks. Lotlil 12:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Carnatic Music: Multiple Trinities

Venu

This is regarding the Carnatic Music article. I inserted a para in the composers section stating that there are historically different sets of composers designated as Trinity and did not delete the section on the Thayagaraja-Muthuswami-Shyama trinity. However I find that a user called Gnanapiti keeps reverting the edit calling it false history. I actually even cited the book by U.V.Saminatha Iyer called "Sangeetha Mummanikal" where he lists Kanam Krishna Iyer, Gopalakrishna Bharathi and another composer as the Mummanikal. There have been about three cycles of edit-reversal within the past few hours. How does one go about this now?

Thanks. Chandrasekaran.

Venu

Thanks for your reply. However is there not a Wiki process to arbitrate or even lock the page in these situations?

Chandrasekaran

Periyar

A few other users complained about fancruft so I changed the page tom the sourced and fairly balanced version at Talk:E._V._Ramasami_Naicker/A.Bakaman 16:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete the image if ther eis a problem I bleeived it was PD-old -so public domain ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieving a source from another site providing it is PD old qualifies as fair use. If the image itself is in the public domain -e.g produced before 1947 I think it is in India then it is a free image. Do you have any reason to beleive it is recent? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I see thanks -but please do not tell me what to do. I beleive then it still qualifies as fair use but if you object to the image for a personal reason then feel free to delete - note though you speedied the image yet the tag was on it for many hours and it still wasn't deleted. the wiki deleter obviuosly wasn't convinced about it ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thats the best thing to do is to peer review. Personally I have no objection if you want to delete it but I thought it was an asset and improvment to the article thats all. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Hi there, I was just curious what about the copyright status of this image which is used all over the place? No, I'm not going to tag that image. Because I don't believe in editing in bad faith. Gnanapiti 02:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't answer about the status of above mentioned image. Are you going to tag that image too? Gnanapiti 03:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is exactly what I call editing in bad faith. As I already said, I'm not going to tag that image. As long as due credit is given to copyright holder and the image is informative, I don't have any problems with images. I don't believe in disruptive editing unlike you. Gnanapiti 03:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sarvagyna

Hi Parthi, Thanks for telling me about Sarvagyna's tagging of some of my (uploaded) images. The images already have the names of the photographers, the dates, as well as statements that they are in the public domain in their respective documentation. Thanks also for reverting Sarvagyna's bad faith edits. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:24, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just wanted to know. Do you derive any sadistic pleasure by making unnecessary personal attacks on me? Gnanapiti 04:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Eastern Chalukya infobox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Lilac Soul 09:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maps

Parthi, I'm trying to create a map showing the location of 10-15 cities in ancient Tamilakam, for use in Economy of Ancient Tamil Country. I have a book that shows these locations but in different maps (3-4 cities per map), I wanted to collect all of them into one. What's the best way to do this? Lotlil 04:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Private Venu

1:you have contributed a lot to Wikipedia particurly to Tamil.Thanks a lot.But I am sorry to say that certain editors do not like us and want to vandalise amd make us go like the marathi editors. Sarvagnya was a confirmed sockpupporter and Gnanapati is his sock [1] However due to help from Binguyen.[2] Later a drama was done with a so called second check not given to any other user and his friend used from another location and he was let off. Confirmed [3] Further Evidence [4] Further Evidence [5] Both have similar userpages [6] and [7] They are same user.They edit the same articles which they are not supposed to do.[8]

Please read below above Binguyen

[9] He cheated and lied during the Arbitition Victim [10] Now Tamil editors There is a Singalese/Kannada Tag team which vandalises articles and they plan to make us leave Wikipedia.Anyway I have left even before I joined. [11] Read here [12] Read here [13] Regards Adyarboy