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I'm adding a coaches section. --Cyclone James 08:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Emblem

...should be wiki-linked. But what kind of Sea Eagle is it? (I'm having trouble figuring out which one(s) is native to Australia.) --Singkong2005 03:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to this there are two native sea eagles, it's probably this one. But more likely they just wanted something more aggresive than a seagull (as they formerly used), even if there were no native sea eagles, they may've used it anyway. --Paul 06:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright infringements

The historical article displayed on Manly's wikisite is the intellectual property of rl1908.com author Sean Fagan. Any content from the rl1908.com site that is re-produced must have the permission by Mr Fagan first.

Unfortunately due to this, the content has been removed. If you wish to contact Sean you can email him at sfagan@rl1908.com

Sbryce858 07:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC) 07:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bridesmaids?

Why is that section named "Bridesmaids"? There should be an explanation. I'm not sure if it's some form of wierd vandalism or not.--Jeff79 05:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It refers to 'always the bridesmaid never the bride' in refernce to them never having won a premiership for the period. It was a common tag for Parra and still applies to Cronulla... cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 08:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy

This Controversy bit about Watmough shoud go shouldn't it. In sixty years of this club's history there must surely have been some other controversies but in the absence of any being set out in the article this one just reads like news to me.Sticks66 12:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, absolutely no need for a whole new section for it on club's article (see also related discussion at Talk:Brisbane Broncos#Controversy section).--Jeff79 22:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

General Fix-Up

I'm going through the entire page and sorting out suitable information from the early history to the present. Much of this information is available in different forms and suitable permissions will be sought.

The layout is also chaos with no 'flow' between articles.

Too much emphasis exists on very recent news and players and I don't see a need for 'match reviews' in the numbers they exist in for 2006 and 2007. Much of that information should be sourced through the official Manly Sea Eagle site, and if it isn't archived there for future access, it should be.

Please be patient with my efforts and I should have a completed page by late-July 2007.

Thanks.

Seagulls

Is it true that at the time of the 1957 and 1959 Grand Final losses to the Dragons the club was known as the Manly Warringah Seagulls ? When did it change ? - Sticks66 13:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Manly1124 - There is no evidence of the use of Sea Gulls as an official moniker for the Manly club. Some in the press used the term when the club first put a 'bird' on the jersey due to the confusing design and assumption that this is what it was.

Sound Bites

Well done to whoever is expanding the article but why is most information delivered in one sentence paragraphs like "sound bites'. Please remember you're writing an encyclopedic article. A paragraph should flow and invite the reader to stay with you. Group two or three related sentences together into a paragraph. If you make an assertion cite a link (preferably) or back it up with another sentence or two that evidences the prior assertion. Tell a flowing story. -Sticks66 13:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soundbites

Firstly, thanks for the appreciation with the expansion. Please note that it is a longer-term project and I'm just getting the raw info down first. Further improvements will be implemented when I'm happy with the amount of details, and will include pictures, links, references, etc.

Considering the state of the page when I first started, I felt it necessary to fix on-the-run rather than do it off-line and share no info for the couple of months I'd set aside.

Manly1124

Article wants breaking up

Article is loaded with history. Reckon this deserves its own page. A Manly 2007 season article may also be a step forward. Alexsanderson83 21:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Subject is still going through changes. At this stage, information will be added to the article before appropriate division between a Manly main page and more in-depth reviews, including more recent years.

As for the Melbourne rivalry, it is not suitable in the context employed in the article. On the basis of a close game, Manly potentially has rivalries with all teams at various times. Rivalries need to develop over substantial periods of time and be in the Manly supporter psyche. The Storm do not fit this bill and will be removed at this time.Manly1124 08:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Manly are obviously a club steeped in history, along with the mergers as well. I reckon this may warrant a history of the club page. A 2007 page is something alot of other NRL teams have. Londo06 17:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone removed starting line-ups, 2007 article to be made. Alexsanderson83 07:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moved run on side to 2007 page. Londo06 10:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles History

Created a Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles History page as the details on this page are extensive. If someone wants to scale down this page to an introduction please feel free as I am only familiar with the club over the last 13 years or so. Londo06 09:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for moving that. now that it has a main article, some serious cutting down is required. The history sounds full of POV and fan talk though. Michellecrisp 11:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Continuous Amendments to History

Whilst I appreciate the need to shrink the main subject, the continual removal of information relevant to the Manly history is becoming annoying.

Good ideas regarding the spliting of information into tighter pages is certainly the way to go. To acheive this and still tell the story of the clubs progress, I believe the info currently in the main needs to be left alone, until further progress is made with other pages.

I am trying to be objective regarding the editing of the page, but to see people that are more than likely not supporters tinkering with details and removing items that THEY believe is not relevant, eg. the signing of Wally O'Connell, is wearing thin.

Read the whole article, get ALL your ideas down and then make a thorough suggestion through this page. Most of the deletions and summerisations are coming across as nit-picking and unhelpful.

Manly1124 02:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The history section as it stands must be summarised for 2 main reasons: the detailed history has its own main article now so something appearing on this main page cannot be long, secondly the article is considered too long so the history section must be reduced. As a guide check out the Featured Article Sydney_Roosters#History should be a guide. A degree of nitpicking is necessary, I wouldn't apply the same standard to the separate history article. I would not regard my deletions as unhelpful. Secondly there is no rule that non-supporters can't edit, see WP:FAN. Michellecrisp 02:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, if people want the full history they go to Manly-Warringah_Sea_Eagles_History that's what the link is for now. Michellecrisp 02:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]