Talk:Mark Bavaro

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May 17, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA nom

Okay I've done a ton of work on this article and am getting ready to nominate it for GA status in a day or two. Quadzilla99 11:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, work's done for the most part, I'm still going to add a little more. Let's see how the GA nom goes. Quadzilla99 14:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NY Times references

I just made some minor corrections but this is a well written article. I have one editing question concerning the "Early and college" heading, it is poorly written. Perhaps "Early life and college" or something. My chief complaint though is that half of the references are to the New York Times. While that certainly makes sense, since Bavaro played mostly for the New York Giants, the NY Times website requires you to register and pay in order to view its content. Hence, I and many others cannot see the referenced artices and verify the sources. Is there a way around this or perhaps others sources available to replace the NY Times articles? Timpcrk87 19:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and college is what I thought I had in there, it's a typo (d'oh!). No, there's no way to get the same info otherwise that I know of. I'm not really sure why this is a problem, basically the article is citing a newspaper, I just linked to the online version for improved access. What you're saying is articles shouldn't cite newspapers. Other articles even use foreign language sources. I can email you copies of the articles if there are some you'd like to see. Not using their archives would cripple the potential quality of articles on New York related subjects, as the site has pretty much every single article printed by the paper since 1850. Quadzilla99 19:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify you don't have to give me your email adress you just enable your email preferences and I can send you an email without seeing your address. Quadzilla99 19:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't trying to say the references were bad, although your willingness to e-mail them to me is appreciated yet not necessary. I assume good faith. I was suggesting that any claims cited with NYT articles that could be cited with other free sources would be better. Maybe you did look for other sources and were unsuccessful, I don't know. I understand that the NYT is the largest paper in New York and one of the largest in the country and therefore it is unrealistic to write many articles without citing the paper, but it is a nuisance if free sources are also available. Thanks for the quick response. Timpcrk87 19:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pass GA

My comment above has already been acknowledged and I don't consider it a reason to fail a GA nomination anyways. It is well written with factually accurate sources, it is broad in coverage especially his outside of football life, it is neutral and stable with a very good image that has fair use rationale. Timpcrk87 20:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, and also for the copy-edit too. Quadzilla99 20:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]