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Documentation

Purpose

This is a template to be used for NCAA football schools (such as Oklahoma Sooners football).

Usage

Required fields

{{NCAAFootballSchool
| TeamName          = (Name of the team, e.g. Oklahoma Sooners football)
| HeadCoachDisplay  = (Display name of the head coach, e.g. Dan Hawkins)
| HeadCoachYear     = (Number of years head coach at school, e.g. 1st/2nd/3rd)
| HCWins            = (Number of wins by head coach at this school)
| HCLosses          = (Number of losses by head coach at this school)          
| Stadium           = (Name of the stadium)
| ConferenceDisplay = (Display name of the conference, e.g. Big 12)
| ConferenceLink    = (Link to conference, e.g. Big 12 Conference)
| ATWins            = (All-time wins by the school)
| ATLosses          = (All-time losses by the school)
| ATTies            = (All-time ties by the school)
| BowlWins          = (Number of bowl games won by school)
| BowlLosses        = (Number of bowl games lost by school)
| Color1            = (Name of the first school color)
| Color1Hex         = (Hex value of the first school color)
}}

Optional fields

{{NCAAFootballSchool
| Image            = (Link to an image of the team logo)
| ImageSize        = (Size of image if different than 150px)
| CurrentSeason    = (Link to the Current Seasons page, e.g. 2007 TCU Horned Frogs football team)
| HeadCoachLink    = (Link to head coach, e.g. Dan Hawkins (coach) )
| HCTies           = (Number of ties by head coach at this school)
| StadCapacity     = (Capacity of the stadium)
| StadSurface      = (Playing surface of the stadium, e.g. Grass)
| ConfDivision     = (Division in conference, e.g. South/North)
| FirstYear        = (First year football was played at the school)
| AthlDirectorDisp = (Display name of Athletic Director)
| AthlDirectorLink = (Link to Athletic Director)
| WebsiteName      = (Name of website)
| WebsiteURL       = (URL of website)
| ATPercentage     = (All time winning percentage, e.g. .765)
| BowlTies         = (Number of ties bowl games)
| NatlTitles       = (Number of national titles)
| ConfTitles       = (Number of conference titles)
| Heismans         = (Number of Heisman Trophy winners)
| AllAmericans     = (Number of All Americans)
| Color2           = (Name of the second school color)
| Color2Hex        = (Hex value of the second school color)
| FightSong        = (Name of fight song)
| MascotDisplay    = (Display name of mascot, e.g. Bevo)
| MascotLink       = (Link to mascot, e.g. Bevo (mascot) )
| MarchingBand     = (Name of marching band)
| PagFreeLabel     = (A free field in the pageantry section; label is the name of the field)
| PagFreeValue     = (A free field in the pageantry section; value is the actual object)
}}

Empty

{{NCAAFootballSchool
| TeamName         = 
| Image            = 
| ImageSize        = 
| HeadCoachDisplay = 
| HeadCoachLink    = 
| HeadCoachYear    = 
| HCWins           = 
| HCLosses         = 
| HCTies           = 
| Stadium          = 
| StadCapacity     = 
| StadSurface      = 
| ConferenceDisplay= 
| ConferenceLink   = 
| ConfDivision     = 
| FirstYear        =
| AthlDirectorDisp = 
| AthlDirectorLink = 
| WebsiteName      = 
| WebsiteURL       = 
| ATWins           = 
| ATLosses         = 
| ATTies           = 
| ATPercentage     = 
| BowlWins         = 
| BowlLosses       = 
| BowlTies         = 
| NatlTitles       = 
| ConfTitles       = 
| Heismans         = 
| AllAmericans     = 
| Color1           = 
| Color1Hex        = 
| Color2           = 
| Color2Hex        = 
| FightSong        = 
| MascotDisplay    = 
| MascotLink       = 
| MarchingBand     = 
| PagFreeLabel     =
| PagFreeValue     =
}}

Example

Oklahoma Sooners football
First season1895
Head coach
8th season, 86–18–0 (.827)
StadiumGaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium
(capacity: 82,112)
Field surfaceGrass
DivisionSouth
All-time record754–292–53 (.710)
Bowl record24–14–1 (.628)
Claimed national titles7
Conference titles40
Heisman winners4
Consensus All-Americans161
ColorsCrimson and Cream
   
Fight songBoomer Sooner
MascotSooner Schooner
Marching bandThe Pride of Oklahoma Marching Band
2nd MascotBoomer and Sooner
WebsiteSoonerSports.com
{{NCAAFootballSchool
| TeamName         = Oklahoma Sooners football
| Image            = OU-Logo.PNG
| ImageSize        = 145px
| HeadCoachDisplay = Bob Stoops
| HeadCoachLink    = Bob Stoops
| HeadCoachYear    = 8th
| HCWins           = 86
| HCLosses         = 18
| HCTies           = 0
| Stadium          = Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium
| StadCapacity     = 82,112
| StadSurface      = Grass
| ConferenceDisplay= Big 12
| ConferenceLink   = Big 12 Conference
| ConfDivision     = South
| FirstYear        = 1895
| AthlDirectorDisp = Joe Castiglione
| AthlDirectorLink = Joe Castiglione (athletic director)
| WebsiteName      = SoonerSports.com
| WebsiteURL       = http://soonersports.com
| ATWins           = 754
| ATLosses         = 292
| ATTies           = 53
| ATPercentage     = .691
| BowlWins         = 24
| BowlLosses       = 14
| BowlTies         = 1
| NatlTitles       = 7
| ConfTitles       = 40
| Heismans         = 4
| AllAmericans     = 161
| Color1           = Crimson
| Color1Hex        = 990000
| Color2           = Cream
| Color2Hex        = FFFFCC
| FightSong        = Boomer Sooner
| MascotDisplay    = Sooner Schooner
| MascotLink       = Sooner Schooner
| MarchingBand     = The Pride of Oklahoma Marching Band
| PagFreeLabel     = 2nd Mascot
| PagFreeValue     = [[Boomer and Sooner (mascots)|Boomer and Sooner]]
}}

History

Created
NMajdantalk 21:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Removed table tags (<tr><td>) from template; added First Year of Football and Free Label
NMajdantalk 15:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Increased size of school name header; changed "Bowl record" to "Postseason Bowl record"
NMajdantalk 19:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Natl Titles, All Americans, and Heismans only appear if a value is entered.
NMajdantalk 15:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

New template

This is what I came up with on my first attempt. I hope it satisfies most of the requests. Still working on an issue with the color boxes. Let me know what you think.--NMajdantalk 21:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No I haven't. Looks good. Some suggestions: Center the Italicized headers? Or push them out a little more? Also, maybe add a Conference Record under Team Records? Perhaps Conference Titles shouldn't just be a number, since then you could specify what conference(s) it was? ie, 2 Big 12, 5 Big 8, etc? Also, maybe a field for starting year of football? Or number of years (less useful). But really, it does look good. I've see the same color problem on other templates too. --MECUtalk 22:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comments Mecu. I moved the italicized headers over a little more. I can still move it more or just center it. I think conference titles should be a number because win I visit more athletic sites, thats how they list it. But technically, anything can go there. Its not like that field invalidates any number or has some isnumber() function attached to it. I will add the starting year for football as well. Also, I moved your comment to the template talk page as well so we can switch this conversation to the proper place.--NMajdantalk 22:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I like the over-all look and there are only a few things I would add/change. First, I'd have Capacity and Surface be sub-headings under stadium if they are used with each on it's own line. Second, the all-time win percentage doesn't show up even though it's filled in on your example. Third, the fight song probably needs a link field like the coach and mascot have (could probably also use a second or alternative mascot field for teams with two, like the Sooners or Texas). Fourth, the image at the top does not appear to be centered, but that may also be my screen or the fact that the image is an odd number of pixels wide. Otherwise, great job on this and I can't wait until it's ready to go. z4ns4tsu\talk 22:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed the percentage issue and the fight song link. Still debating whether we should give capacity and field type its own heading. I kinda like the way it is, which is the same as it was on the Penn State infobox. I may add some 'Free' labels and values tomorrow so anybody can add some additional information as they see fit whether it be an additional mascot, fight song, etc.--NMajdantalk 22:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, this is wonderful. However, maybe we should have the title that links to the athletic department's page (i.e. Michigan Wolverines)? However, for the most part, this is great - I have no complaints, though some Universities have more than one mascot or fight song - I see however, that this is being adressed. --NomaderTalk 02:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Looks good so far. I would make the following changes- First off, we need a field for offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. We also need a field for rivals and perhaps rivalry games (can be combined to one field?). Should "City" be in the infobox? How are we dealing with co-conference champs? There should be something like Conference Titles = 5 (3 shared) or something like that. "All-Americans" is a tricky subject. Only consensus all-americans? First team all-americans? Are we including second team? Third team? Freshmen? Honorable mention? According to what organizations? There are dozens of organizations that release their own AA lists and some go all the way to third team. We need to decide if we are only going with AP All-Americans or what. If someone gets AA honors 4 years does that only count towards one on that list or does it count 4 times? The way "All-Americans" is worded I would say only counted once, if it said "All-American Titles" then I would agree to count them 4 times. Same can be said for "Heisman winners" vs. "Heisman trophies". I have seen several infoboxes include "BCS Record" underneath Bowl Record as well, not sure if we want to include that. Should other awards be included in the "Awards" section? How about Maxwell, Bednarick, Groza, etc.? Those are my preliminary thoughts, I'll probably have more to add later. VegaDark 00:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I fear that to include all of your suggestions would make the infobox incredibly long (for an infobox) and complex. We need to get more feedback from other people. For instance, I think just the head coach is enough on this infobox since the OC and DC are on the yearly team infobox. I'm also not a fan of having rivalries in an infobox. If that needs to be a section fine, but what are other people's feeling on this? Adding rival teams in one thing but I'm definitely against adding rivalry games as I feel this would be too long. However, I will add a "free" field where it can be made anything. So it could be a rivalry field, or an additional mascot/fight song field. You raise a good point on All American. I guess we should only include Consensus as it would be the easiest to get compared to getting all First Team, Second Team, etc. I chose not to include BCS because its only been around for several years and there's no telling how long is will exist. I felt the proper ground was covered by the National Title field and the Bowl Games field. Also, including every single award on this infobox will, once again, I feel make it too long. As you can tell, my personal preference is to only have vital information to a program in an infobox and any other information should be in the article itself.--NMajdantalk 15:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the best idea would be to simply list the number of school-recognized All-Americans. Schools aren't going to list people who were chosen for the Bob's Groceries AA list on their list of All-Americans. Consensus AA seems a bit too limiting, and I know not all schools even list who were considered consensus AA vs. non-consensus. VegaDark 01:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One other note- The "Colorhex" fields don't seem to be working, as they aren't showing up. VegaDark 05:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, for some reason on the example above the hex codes are not working. However, I went ahead and inserted the template on the Oklahoma Sooners football page and the color boxes came out fine.--NMajdantalk 16:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for primetime?

So is this template ready to be inserted into the appropriate articles? Any other changes? I've already put it on the Oklahoma Sooners football and the UCF Golden Knights football articles so you can see it in a live environment there if you wish.--NMajdantalk 16:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is good except for one final thing: There used to be non-postseason bowls so "Bowl record" could or could not include that. I think it should be "Postseason Bowl Record". See Mirage Bowl for where I am coming from. Other than that I think It's good to go. VegaDark 19:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--NMajdantalk 19:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Go here to see what pages the infobox has been placed on.--NMajdantalk 16:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]