Talk:When Aliens Attack
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Quotes
Would someone please explain to me why some inconsiderate soul felt it necessary to remove all the quotes from this episode? The quotes help casual readers and Futurama fans alike get a sense of the episode's tone. What was the point of removing them? Spite? A desire to have control? --User:Awakeandalive1 May 25, 2006.
- Er, no. Wikipedia is not a repository of quotations, they belong at sister project Wikiquote.--Sean Black 03:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The bulk of them, yes. But the quotes (especially for episodes of television programs) give a good sense of what the show is like. Besides which, many, many episode guides for series here on Wikipedia include quotes. Is this Wikipedia's hard-and-fast policy or is it just a particular interpretation? I could find nothing there which specifically or even broadly referred to quotes. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
- Not only is Wikipedia not an indiscriminate collection of information, excerpts from a TV program are copyrighted, you know. --Rory096 05:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- And I still don't see how quotes relevant to an episode constitute a breach of that, especially since trivia and references are collected on the same page, but do as you will. Also a lot of the content and information reproduced here is copyrighted. If that's the motive for removing the quotes, then you lot have a LOT of work ahead of you...especially since the characters, images and likenesses are technically copyrighted and property of their respective corporations. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
- You're confusing yourself here. The things you mention are summaries of the programme. Quotes lifted directly from the program, presented in a list, shouldn't be in Wikipedia articles because it's duplicated with (again) our sister project Wikiquote, and because doing so is quite questionable under the terms of GFDL and the fair use provision of U.S. law, if not in direct violation.--Sean Black 07:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- And again, I understand how the complete reproduction of *all* the quotes from an episode would constitute duplication, but the inclusion of a few select quotes seems like it makes a lot of sense. Information is often "duplicated" from Wikipedia sister pages (vis. Wikinews, Wikisources, Wiktionary, etc.) because the information is relevant to the subject in the respective Wikipedia entries. The trivia and the references are rarely "summaries." And again, legally, the images, characters and all liknessess are copyrighted. As far as I could tell, it sounds like quotes fall under 'fair use' as well, provided they are used with discrimination and restraint and are relevant to the article. However you interpret it as you will. --Awakeandalive1 May 26, 2006.
- You're confusing yourself here. The things you mention are summaries of the programme. Quotes lifted directly from the program, presented in a list, shouldn't be in Wikipedia articles because it's duplicated with (again) our sister project Wikiquote, and because doing so is quite questionable under the terms of GFDL and the fair use provision of U.S. law, if not in direct violation.--Sean Black 07:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- And I still don't see how quotes relevant to an episode constitute a breach of that, especially since trivia and references are collected on the same page, but do as you will. Also a lot of the content and information reproduced here is copyrighted. If that's the motive for removing the quotes, then you lot have a LOT of work ahead of you...especially since the characters, images and likenesses are technically copyrighted and property of their respective corporations. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
- Not only is Wikipedia not an indiscriminate collection of information, excerpts from a TV program are copyrighted, you know. --Rory096 05:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The bulk of them, yes. But the quotes (especially for episodes of television programs) give a good sense of what the show is like. Besides which, many, many episode guides for series here on Wikipedia include quotes. Is this Wikipedia's hard-and-fast policy or is it just a particular interpretation? I could find nothing there which specifically or even broadly referred to quotes. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
Mount Rushmore?
The image of the Super-Villain on Mount Rushmore is almost the identical clone of the villain from the old Fighting Fantasy gamebook Appointment with F.E.A.R., the picture is on the cover and also there are a couple of illustrations of the villain in the book. Could this be a reference? - 14.43 GMT 27 July 2007
References section
Isn't the References section for citing the source of information in the article, not for listing pop culture references? That section should become Trivia if so. Canonymous 23:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Not necessarily a goof
One of the "goofs" says that there is a 1001-year difference between the broadcast and the attack, but it should only take 1000 years. That's not necessarily problem; even faster-than-light ships need time to move.--DoctorWorm 02:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I was just about to re-add this. Although the broadcast took 1000 years, and was 1000 lightyears away, it took at most a couple years for Lrrr and the others to come to Earth and attack. I realized that there have been other episodes where either Fry's gang or Lrrr and Ndnd leave their home planet and meet, which should take at least a 1000 years each time. One more thing... Farnsworth has said in a different episode that scientists increased the speed of light in the year 2208. So, I'd like to add this, anyone have an idea? (in short - some facts don't agree. you can't go faster than the speed of light, but in Futurama, they seem to break the rule several times, although the speed of light has been increased) --KevinJr42 22:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, isn't it a goof that it took a thousand years to get to the aliens? TV stations don't broadcast with light. The waves would've taken longer than a thousand years to get a thousand lightyears.
Coke/Pepsi
An airing on Adult Swim today (April 3, 2007) cut Fry's line about it being Pepsi spilt on the console rather than Coke (immediately going from Amy's line to the end of Fry's line, "I would think."). Any reason why they would do this? Is it notable to put in the article? --DarkfireTaimatsu 06:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- A subsequent airing tonight (June 5, 2007) replaces "Pepsi" with "Beer" this time around. --DarkfireTaimatsu 06:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Removed cultural references
I deleted two :
- "At the end where the survivors emerge after the aliens depart, there is a clown that bears a striking resemblance to Krusty The Klown." -> No it doesn't, they're just two clowns drawn by Matt Groening.
- The Scary Door is a reference to The Twilight Zone. -> Yes, but it doesn't appear in this episode.