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Mandisa Sales

How come this isn't on the list. She has a album out. Carmen Rasmusen also has an album out.

Initial week sales for Mandisa were only announced today and are now posted. Carmen released an EP a little while ago but has not released an album yet. Her first album is planned for release later this summer, August 28 I believe. MarcoNYC 19:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

List of band songs

I heard a while ago that you can't sing from certain bands at the audition..if this is true where is a list of bands that are banned?--Poodleman 05:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

ABBA for season six?

From the article:

"Simon Cowell reported on the season premiere that week seven's challenge for the contestants will be ABBA songs. Nothing has been said as to whether the original bandmates will help coach or judge that week's competition"

I don't think he was necessarily being serious, I think he was just saying that theoretically, there will be an ABBA week, since the kid was a rocker and probably wouldn't want to sing ABBA. Does anyone else agree, or do you think he was serious? Joltman 12:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Justin Timberlake - Season 1 runner up?!

If you go all the way to the bottom of the page, below "Footnotes" it lists Justin Timberlake as the runner-up in season 1 instead of Justin Guarini haha I dont know how to change it or I would. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.234.232.211 (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

William Hung Sales?

I've seen his album sales on other pages as 195,000, not 295,000. I honestly don't know which figure is correct, but 295,000 seems hard to believe. (222.254.189.158 12:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC))

Las Vegas Odds Makers controversy?

In the Controversy section the last sentence currently says that some in the media have speculated that Vegas Odds Makers have exerted influence to keep the prediction sites going, but in reality it has never been legal to bet on Americon Idol or anything of the sort in Las Vegas, so this statement seems foolish. And there is no source sited for the assertion anyway.

facts

The facts on this page about the number of people who watched each season are not all accurate. I have seen different facts on other pages and web sites. Also there are some other things that seem wrong. This page needs to be checked over.\

Unless you can cite the so-called others pages and website, I don't see your claim having any merit, that and you conveniantly decided not to add your signature, I vote to revert back without the warning label.Pumapayam 19:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

BLP concerns and tone

There are significant portions of this article that do not meet the tone of an encyclopedia and use weasel words to establish claims that are not referenced by any sourcing. I added a template to the most offensive section (Season 5) where the text includes phrasing like: some think this...and that is widely regarded. If those statements are true then sources need to be provided and the weasel words need to be replaced with something more accurate.

Secondly, I noticed a few claims about contestants and their histories within the text that are unsourced. Someone's brother was arrested? Another person was removed from the competition for XYZ? That's fine since it's all most likely true, but it needs to be sourced or it runs afoul of WP:BLP and should be removed. If I have time later today, I'll redact most of it, but this article needs closer attention to the policies. ju66l3r 17:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Season 6 in the UK

The article says it's broadcast on ITV2, but it's also on ITV1 because that's the channel I watch it on (I don't have ITV2)! I'm not sure if I should edit it to say it's broadcast on ITV1 and 2 because I don't know if the ITV1 and 2 broadcasts are the same.

The article also says; 'When the live shows begin next week, the version presented by Cat Deeley is expected to resemble American Idol Extra.' Well, the live shows have begun now - do the UK shows resemble American Idol Extra (I don't know what that is!) as expected?

Thanks. CC 91 16:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Victoria Beckham a Judge?

Hi, someone from the UK here. I don't know if there was any coverage that side of the pond, but there were rumours that Simon Fuller wished to replace Paula Abdul as a judge with Victoria Beckham, with Simon Cowell being against it. Now this WAS in a newspaper and might not be true, but if it is, it might be worth posting. Douglasnicol 22:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

A new section: Awards won by American Idol Alumni

With Jennifer Hudson winning an Academy Award, others winning Grammy Awards, and others on Broadway, it would be intersting to have a section with the major awards won (and nominated) to American Idol Alumni.

Season synopsis and post AI career bios are way too long

The synopsis for each season are too obscenely long. Thats what the individual season articles are for. While we are at it, why do these synopsis follow the career of the winners post AI? The notable contestants already have their own articles - most especially the winners and runner-ups. Why is the "Controversies" section so large when AI controversies already have it's own page? This article also completely misses covering the history and development of the show which is pretty fascinating in itself. So much redundancies, so little coverage of the real relevant information on the show. --Eqdoktor 22:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

American Idol Sponsorship

Is it worth mentioning that American Idol in the UK is sponsored by Chicago Town Pizza's Humdrum Idol campaign? More details at humdrumidol.com

--Digeratiuk 11:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Technically, that is a different show. Michael 21:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Do we really need an entire section on who sponsors the show each season? MarcoNYC 16:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

International networks broadcasting American Idol

In the "International networks broadcasting American Idol" section, would it be better to put for the Latin American counties just one bullet saying 'In Latin America, the show screens on Sony Entertainment Television' instead of a bullet for each country AND a bullet saying 'In Latin America...'?

--Andrés 03:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Taylor Hicks top selling alumni

I erased the first two albums from Taylor. Just because Carrie has 3 independent albums, and it didn't count in that list.

--Kellie Pickler Fanatic :D 21:52, 14 March 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KelliePicklerFanatic (talk • contribs) 00:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

You can add Carrie's too. I see no reason not to include all albums. --24.154.173.243 23:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Restore List of American Idol contestants?

I am now having qualms about List of American Idol contestants, which I proposed to be deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of American Idol contestants. Shortly after that article was deleted, a section in Template:American Idol, called "other notable alumni", popped up. I don't know if the two events are related, but I feel they are. The problem with the section in the template is we are proposing arbitrary criteria for a successful contestant. I could argue anybody who sells records or who has a significant fan base is notable. Here we are imposing our own criteria for notability as opposed to Wikipedia's guideline for notability. A navigational template should have a sense of stability, and the constant addition and deletion of notable contestants gives a headache for those who maintain the template.

I would like to restore List of American Idol contestants, but only after a discussion here. Arguably, anybody who is selected to be shown on TV is notable. The producers like and choose to show a contestant based on how great or how poorly he or she performs. Since the show is popular and is discussed widely, the notoriety gained from even a 3-minute appearance (with name shown) is notable. There is a finite number of contestants who are shown on TV, so maintenance is not a problem. Additional notes on the contestamts (placement, record sales, notoriety, etc.) may also be added with the list, so that it is not a directory. (My own experiences with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crew of Sesame Street is also an influence in my decision.) A category doesn't always replace a list. Restoration of the article is not a replacement for the template section, but if the list is available, personal judgments on who is notable can be directed there. So I think if List of American Idol contestants is restored, the other notable alumni section will be unnecessary and not as controversial. Tinlinkin 02:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with the restoration, and full lists of anyone who showed up should be included, however, they should be linked to other media sites to prove their mention. As for those who even get a brief stint, many of them have official websites and news articles, and some even have fan clubs and albums out. The arbitrary criteria should be eliminated. CrazyC83 04:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree as per above Timclare ^(talk) _{(sign here)} 10:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

They should also be sorted in three groups: "Finalists", "Semi-finalists", "Other notables". CrazyC83 14:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The way I would bring back and edit the list is as follows: it will be as a sortable table (see Help:Sorting) with the following columns: "Name", "Season", "Final standing" (finalist, semifinalist, etc.), "Final rank", "Total album sales", and "Notes". The default sorting will be alphabetical by last name. All people who have a valid blue link that does not link to an American Idol season page will automatically be included in the list. As for people who are linked to an AI season page or have a red link, per the AfD discussion, I will respect the sentiment from that discussion and say they should not be included—unless there is an extraordinary circumstance that makes them notable. American Idol#Top-selling American Idol alumni and other relevant sections may be logical choices to merge into the list. Tinlinkin 03:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, I do not endorse the current version of List of American Idol contestants. The version that should appear when I edit the article is the one as it was from the AfD discussion, so that the original article's history is preserved. On March 26, 2007, there should be enough discussion to the point where I will ask the closing admin of the AfD debate to restore the article. That is the date when I hope to implement my changes. Tinlinkin 03:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I have to turn around and say I will withdraw my nomination to recreate the article at this time. For one, the article is protected, and I don't think I have a strong argument to recreate it, despite the above. Reviewing the lists of names in each season article, a master list looks like a redundant source of info, which is something I always try to avoid. I Also, I am planning to take a wikibreak soon, and there are other areas of Wikipedia I want to attend to. I apologize for feeling manic about this whole thing, and particularly to CrazyC83, who feels strongly for the list. Category:American Idol participants is sufficent for the purpose of the list. Tinlinkin 05:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the article should definitely be recreated. --164.107.223.217 04:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

the full list should be recreated - many "notable" people are missing from the lists [[user: ]]

song

does anybody know the name of the song they used when the top 12 girls of S 6 were presented ?

Not Ur Girl, by Katharine Mcphee

Corey Clark Sales

He has sold 2,500, not 12,500. Someone made a typo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.229.41.57 (talk) 17:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

i hate your guts..sanjaya

I dont believe hating his/her guts has anything to do with this wikipedia article?

Audition improvements

Many of the contestants who initially audition for American Idol have no background singing or performance training and it really shows when they try to sing on tv, and consequently turn off a lot of television viewers. Various online and offline training courses are available top help auditioners to perform better and perhaps allow American Idol to be even more of an appealing singing competition. Sites including http://www.IWannaBeAnIdol.com and http://www.IWannaBeAmericanIdol.com allow enthusiastic internet viewers to become performers by submitting television pilots in different subject matters and singing auditions for broadcast. They are reviewed by music directors and viewers and the best aired as new program series on television channels broadcast by Fantasy-TV, [www.fantasy-tv.com], free internet tv

Fools

Deleted unnessecary posts

Invesco Field?

In the auditions section it says that auditions for American Idol season five took place in Denver at Invesco Field at Mile High. I am pretty positive that they were in the Convention Center and not Invesco. I cannot find something to back this up, so I didn't change it, but I could have sworn I saw the giant hallways from the Convention Center behind the contestants. Change it to Convention center if im right. I might be imagining things though.

Ryan Starr and Kat McPhee Gold?

Those are new entries, but I am not sure either one is accurate.

Katharine McPhee's album is in stores, and it may be reasonable that they shipped an extra 150k copies (with the original pressing apparently being 350,000 copies), but as the threshold for gold is 500k for digital downloads, per the RIAA_certification page, it doesn't seem as Ryan's single My_Religion_(song) would qualify yet at 360k sold.

But, also, according to idolforums ( http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=493650 ), the only listing for Katharine McPhee being Gold is "the official American Idol magazine", and cannot be corroborated by her artists page at Billboard or any other source. This is also a matter of controversy in the editing of Katharine_McPhee_2007_album

Rick 75.4.244.44 06:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

JPL Record Sales

JPL has an album, but he is not listed in the Idols sales chart. Does anyone have the information to put him on the list? 71.255.86.80 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Jon Peter Lewis' album was called Stories From Hollywood released in November 2006 on the Cockaroo Entertainment label. I haven't heard of sales numbers. MarcoNYC 16:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Just read that total sales for Mr. Lewis' album as of June 2007 is a whopping 900 as reported in USA Today (http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2007/06/weak-week-for-i.html). I guess we have all the info we need to add it to the main article now, just under Ayla Brown. (MarcoNYC 17:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC))

Of course, there are other albums out there with no information available (i.e. Lisa Leuschner's) that may be around there as well... CrazyC83 00:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Rehearsal Tapings

Any proof that they show tape rehearsals as part of the song recaps?--68.97.75.170 04:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Virtual Elvis

What was the name of the company that helped produce that performance?

Top Selling Albums by Idol Alumni

I think the entire section on top selling alumni is in need of focus and larger discussion considering that record sales are the most direct indication of the effectiveness of the show in finding new musical talent. Many questions have been raised about the inclusiveness and accuracy of this section. Albums released before someone was on the show seem less relevant but does provide a good comparison. And should albums be included when sales are unknown for completeness? What about idols that appears with others, or that only released EPs? Should they all qualify? Because that would impact the inclusion of Constantine, Chris Sligh, Mandisa, Carmen Rasmussen, Corey Clark. MarcoNYC 17:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

And what about compilation albums from the show? Should they be listed also? MarcoNYC 17:11, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Generally, it should only be individual or headliner albums (i.e. when a former contestant is a lead singer) and should only be for albums released after appearing on the show (as they were probably far less known when it was released). However, there should be no restrictions on non-major releases (affecting people like Patrick Hall and Lisa Leuschner), EPs and singles. As for show compilations, they should be in a separate list and ranked accordingly. CrazyC83 14:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

A separate section for show compilations makes sense. But, if we should only be concerned with releases post-Idol appearance, then we should delete the Taylor Hicks albums currently posted. But still, what should be done about recording pre-Idol but releases post-Idol. For example, Chris Sligh recorded an album with his band Half Past Forever before appearing on Idol but it was released after he was cut from Idol. The same circumstances were present for Constantine Maroulis' band, Pray for the Soul of Betty. Both were lead singers like Chris Daughtry. Finally, what should be done about non-show compilations such as the soundtrack to Dreamgirls which heavily involves Jennifer Hudson. Not sure how to articulate a rule that distinguishes that from other compilations such as the "Now" series which includes singles by Kelly Clarkson and Daughtry. MarcoNYC 21:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Pre-Idol recordings should not count in any of the statistics. They are not listed in Idol season pages and they do not directly reflect their appearance on the show (although it is possible they could have seen a sales "bump" during or immediately after their appearance). CrazyC83 00:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The section on top selling alumni states that the sales totals are US only. Kelly Clarksons sales total of 8,800,000 and 9x platinum is her worldwide total and she is the only one with ww sales credit, although others have also sold overseas. It should read 5.7 million and 5x platinum on the RIAA website http://www.riaa.com/gp/database/search_results.asp

according to a recent article by Ken Barnes of USA Today.

"Taylor sold 1,700 (2,000 the previous week) for a total of 673,000. Ruben sold 1,000 (down from 1,200) for a total of 223,000. Clay sold 600 (same as the last couple of weeks) and is at 509,000. Kelly sold 5,900 (up from 4,900 and enough to rank around No. 129 on the chart if it weren't ineligible by Billboard rules). Her total is 5.7 million." http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2007/05/gives_back_gene.html#more

AllDone 15:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Please include the 2007 tallies for the American Idol Alumni section. Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway Album has sold an additional 146,000 units in the year 2007 thus far. This is not reflected in the current total under the American Idol Alumni section. Source: http://www.americanidolworship.com/ Roboticgamer 06:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Robotgamer, americanidolworship.com is a fan run blog. It does not meet the criteria of a verifiable and credible source and it is not NPOV. Your edits will be reverted until a credible source is cited.

AllDone 17:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

• MarcoNYC said,"But, if we should only be concerned with releases post-Idol appearance, then we should delete the Taylor Hicks albums currently posted." This is a good point. If Taylor Hicks' pre-idol CDs are to remain posted then other Idols' pre-idol releases should also be included. Clay Aiken recorded and released 2 CDs, Look What Love Has Done and Redefined, for sale pre season2 and they were sold during his tenure as an American Idol contestant.

Clay also recorded an EP, All Is Well, and RCA released it on November 28th 2006. This should also be posted since it is a post-Idol release. AllDone 03:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Aren't albums that sell 500,000 Gold and 1 Million Platinum? Why are some albums that fall below these numbers listed as Gold and Platinum. Fantasia's second album is listed as selling more than McPhee's, and yet how is McPhee's Gold and Fantasia's isn't? Neither sold 500,000 copies, so how could McPhee's be Gold? --164.107.223.217 04:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The RIAA certifications are based on unit shipments, not on total end-consumer sales. If an album is selling at (or is expected to sell at) a brisk pace, more albums are typically shipped, in anticipation of the albums being sold. As for Kat vs. Fantasia, Kat's album hasn't been around as long, so I'm not surprised that it's certified gold with only 321,000 sales. That said, an album can't receive a certain certification until the record label applies for it, so for all we know, Fantasia might already be there. Caeculus 04:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Somebody needs to restore Taylor's first two albums! :( --164.107.223.217 04:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I've corrected the US only totals for Bo Bice's album which according to "the official Nielsen SoundScan" reports is at 688,000 (as reported on the USA Today site at http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2007/06/answering-a-few.html). I believe the previous total of over 800,000 is for worldwide sales which is inconsistent with all the other sales numbers on the chart. MarcoNYC 17:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone (or several somebodies) keep posting Bo's "Right Thing" album with over 800K even though there is no citation that that number refers to US (only) sales. I give up. Instead of looking to Wiki and citing to sources with indicia of reliability such as that referenced by USA Today, I'm just going to look to USA Today in the first instance. So many Wiki editors have agendas that do not include accuracy. (MarcoNYC 05:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC))

Delete the last Howard Stern entry in Controversy section?

The Howard Stern accusation that travel arrangement and crew sent to hometown were made only for LaKisha is almost certain to be wrong, since all the final three need to go home for filming of their homecoming which will be broadcast on the top 3 weeks. All this needed to be prepared well in advance. Check the news and see the pictures of the top 3 contestants at their respective hometowns. This site should not spread unfounded rumours and nonsense.

Idol Gives Back is nominated for deletion

Just to inform everyone that this article is up for deletion. Happy editing! Dalejenkins 18:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Updates

Does anyone update this article on a regular basis?

Kelli Pickler has sold more that 526, 000 records now its up to like 700, 000

Kelly sold 7,800 to bring her total to 5.7 million

Carrie Underwood's with a 29% increase to 57,000 units sold, for a total of 5.43 million.

Chris Daughtry with a 33% sales increase to 67,000 last week, bringing his total to 2.48 million.

Taylor with a 75% increase to 2,800 for a total of 677,000.

Kellie Pickler with a 22% sales increase to 7,800, to bring her total to 526,000.

Clay had a 60% increase with a total of 511,000

Fantasia had a 21% sales increase to 7,100. Her total's up to 373,000.

Katharine with a 11% increase to 5,500 for a total of 322,000.

Ruben sold 1,000, same as last week, and is at 225,000 total.

Elliott had a 30% increase to 11,000 this week. His total is 192,000.

Bucky down 1% to 17,000 and his total is 119,000.

Paris Bennett joins the Idol chart crew entering the chart at 133 with 6,300 copies.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2007/05/idols_on_a_sale.html AllDone 22:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

This Billboard/Reuters article dated 1/16/07 gave some rounded sales figures for some of the AI alums.

"Idol" veterans face life in the real world

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=musicnews&storyid=2007-01-16t050339z_01_n12329492_rtridst_0_music-idol-dc.xml

Clay: - A Thousand Different Ways: 489,000 - Merry Christmas With Love: 1.4 million - Measure Of A Man: 2.8 million

Justin Guarini: 143,000

Fantasia: - Fantasia: 217,000 - Free Yourself: 1.7 million

Ruben Studdard: - Soulful: 1.8 million - I Need An Angel: 467,000 - The Return: 187,000

AllDone 04:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• Billboard 200

     10 06 26 Daughtry, Daughtry 51,019 66,782 -24 2,527,001

     11 08 79 Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts 46,801 56,723 -17 5,481,303
 
     20 67 09 Elliott Yamin, Elliott Yamin 25,380 10,764 136 217,040
   
     56 44 05 Bucky Covington, Bucky Covington 12,119 17,392 -30 131,069

     91 93 23 Fantasia, Fantasia 7,894 8,579 -8 380,477
 
     100 108 29 Kellie Pickler, Small Town Girl 7,057 7,784 -9 533,123
    
     186 149 16 Katharine McPhee, Katharine McPhee 4,240 5,498 -23 325,824

AllDone 21:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Melinda?

Idol is completely wrong. America has chosen Blake, who can't sing half as well as Melinda. I have decided; that I won't watch the show anymore because Melinda was evidently the best one there. I strongly oppose America's decision. Please don't talk abbout it! Meldshal42 11:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I completly agree with you...so I'm all in for Jordin Ladybug91090 15:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)Ladybug91090

Melinda might have been a good singer but was she ever going to sell Cd's like Blake and Jordin? NO Blake and Jordin were better than her and Jordin was the true winner and american new it

THIS! ARTICLE! IS! FOR! WIKIPEDIA! DISCUTION! ONLY!

Purpose of the show is incorrect

"The program seeks to discover the best young singer in the country..." - When have they said the person had to be young? And they've also stated that singing is only a part of being an Idol. Blake is not getting through by being a singer, which is the weakest part of his repertoire. I would delete "young" and change singer to singer/performer or something like that. NjtoTX 12:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

There is an age cut-off of 30 years old. Is that considered young? --luckymustard 12:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually it's 28. Have to be 28 on August 1st in the year that you audition.

Oops, my bad - should have read further into the article. I'm new to the show. That stinks. NjtoTX 23:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

--Woohookitty^Woohoo! 14:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I feel the show is showing Americans as they really are - racists. Melinda is the best singer but was voted out because she is pure black. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.209.145.71 (talk • contribs).

OK first of this is not a place for comments but since you said something i might as well say something back. Im sop sick of the conspiracy theories that make no sense. The whole damn country isn't white and every one's not racist. Melinda was a great singer but she was boring, end of story. Don't forget that Jordin is half black. If America was racist wouldn't the pure white guy would of won.Rosario lopez 00:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

some idiot put this in:

"However, during the televised episodes of these shows, people normally only see either people who are flaming gay or just suck, because it makes better TV than someone who actually has a speck of talent. Paula Abdul is a drunken whore, and Simon Cowell needs an enema or two to loosen up."

but it's protected, so I can't take it out.

Exposing American racism? Woah, woah woah. One word. Fantasia. All she ever did was jump around the stage and scream. she cant sing. Why was she elected? 2 things. She had alot of charisma, and she was black.

Ratings

I'm curious as to where the sources for the US television ratings chart are,because it doesn't link a source and the Nielsen Ratings website did not show that much information about ratings for perticular shows. Rodrigue 23:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Bottom 3 charts

I added in the bottom 3 charts from each season under each of their respective synopsises. I did this because the main articles for the other countries' Idol shows put the charts on the main page as well as the individual season pages. Its important that the articles for each country's show is consistent with the rest.

Prize

I seem to recall something about way back when it started, that upon winning you were guaranteed something like 2 albums and a movie, and after that it depended on how well you sold. Can anyone verify what, in fact, is in the contract they offer you for winning? All I could find in the article was that you give up all rights to sign with anyone else. Kuronue 08:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Im pretty sure you get a Ford, a bunch of money (not sure how much), and a record deal.

Ayla Brown sales

Her sales numbers are incorrect. She has sold 3,380 sales in places that can track them, as well as an addition 6,800 albums at private events and concerts, bringing the total number of album sales to 10,180.

It's a good album and the sales numbers don't really reflect how good it is. But we should post the official SoundScan numbers consistantly for all artists on this chart which, at least for now, is the most verifiable baseline we have. Most likely all the artists have sold more through non-reporting channels or worldwide sales but that is difficult to measure. So Ayla's numbers are at 2,700 as reported in USA Today. (http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2007/06/weak-week-for-i.html). (MarcoNYC 22:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC))

Clay Aiken's Debut CD is Certified Triple Platinum

To prevent the appearance of a revert war. These are the sources of the triple platinum status of Measure Of A Man.

Access Hollywood August, 3, 2006 is certified triple-platinum, [1]

Cape Gazette Thu, May 20, 2004 Triple platinum-selling recording artist Clay Aiken [2]

CBS News July 14, 2004 his debut album, Measure Of A Man, which has already gone triple platinum [3]

RCA Records Press Release August 3 2006 has been certified triple platinum [4]

Clay's myspace also mentions it. 2003s MEASURE OF MAN triple platinum and counting [5]

AllDone 09:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Top Selling Albums by Idol Alumni

This section is a mess. There are totals for World Wide Sales added but the source is a mystery and the numbers are rounded up or down willy nilly. As useful as it may be to have those totals, there needs to be some responsiblity in editing and if it isn't properly sourced then they need to be removed.

There is a push to credit Taylor with 2 pre-idol CDs. I understand that it was not agreed upon that pre-idol releases are to be listed. Clay Aiken also has 2 pre-idol CDs. Someone also deleted Clay Aiken's EP "All Is Well" that was released in Nov 2006. That CD obviously qualifies because it is a post Idol release.

Who looks after the integrity of the article page and who is responsible to clean it up?

AllDone 12:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed the following for Clay:

A Thousand Different Ways (September 19, 2006) 515,000 Gold Peak: #2 500,000 WW

How can the Worldwide sales be LESS than the U.S. sales? Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Academy Awards??

I know Jennifer Hudson won an Academy Award but I dont think it shuold be under here. Yes she was an American Idol contestant but the whole American Idol show is about vocal talent not acting. The Academy Award's are for acting and therefore should be removed because it was nothing to do with Jennifer's vocal talent.