Talk:FIFA 08

FIFA 08 / 09

Hello!!! Can u make a page 4 Fifa 09??? When iz Fifa 08 gonna be released??? The Previous unsigned comment was added by 60.229.39.72

To cut the answer short, no, it is way to early to start the FIFA 09 page, the reason this page exists is because we know things about FIFA 08, we know nothing about FIFA 09 except it follows FIFA 08. The release date will be on the article when it is known Chaza93 15:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

who is the f***nut who replaced ronaldinho on the covers bit with archie thompson? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nic Car Bel (talk • contribs) June 17, 2007 00:25 (UTC)

The three new leagues

I'm am just saying this, but a person who knows an ea technician said that the hyundai a-league will be featured in fifa 08... and there is some speculation about the russian premier league if u can add this information the fifa 08 page i would be very grateful, so the people's minds are at rest.....— Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.84.7.175 (talk • contribs) 08:49, June 27, 2007 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, we need reliable sources in order to add information into the article. This is an encyclopedia, and Wikipedia is not supposed to be a "crystal ball". Although you might be correct, we need to wait until the leagues are published somewhere before we update the article, it already states that only 1 of the 3 new leagues have been officially announced, the rest is all speculation right now. // laughing man 12:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Per Laughing man Wikipedia is not a place of speculation and Rumours, we need more concrete evidenceas we have with the Ireland League, sorry we dont make the rules CHAZA93 Talk Contribs 18:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that the Scottish First Division is added. ¡иąтнąи! | Talk | Email| 19:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is you dumbass!!!

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.

It has been confirmed by ea that the hyundai a-league will be featured in fifa 08 so plz put it on wikipedia.

The A-League and Czech Gambrinus Liga have been confirmed on the official FIFA 08 YouTube site. Added. The Frederick 09:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm looking around trying to find where it is confirmed that the A-League is going to be in FIFA 08, but i cannot find it. Can you please provide a link to confirm it?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hicksy09 (talk • contribs) 00:32, July 1, 2007 (UTC) Thanks.

It's in the external links section of this page. Go get it. The Frederick 06:13, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not confirmed officially. Please provide a reliable source if possible please, otherwise, we should remove it until it officially announced. // laughing man 07:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering what about the Greek Super League. There was heavy speculation that the league would make it onto FIFA 08 but I am hearing that no one gave it a thought and EA put the Irish League, Australian league and either the Russian league or the Czech league. Whats the deal? Why doesn't anybody want the Greek Super League in there.

If EA doesn't give an answer, there's little we can tell you. I was also thinking the Greek Super League was in, specially due to all their "Rest of the World" teams. I've also heard the Australian league is in, along with the Czech league. There is no confirmed resource, and that's exactly what we need. I personally hope the Copa Libertadores is now in the game. MarshalN20 00:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, Someone has added another 2 leagues without adding a source. I beleive one they added is the Argentinian League, and the other may be the Mexican Div 2 (not 100% sure). Can a source please be added, or the leagues that were added removed? Thanks alot guys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hicksy09 (talk • contribs) 02:05, July 9, 2007 (UTC)

Removed, thanks for the heads up. // laughing man 05:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know roughly how long before release date EA Sports announced the full set of leagues for FIFA 07? I've been hanging out to see if the A-League is going to be in this years game :P. Cheers Hicksy09 19:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really sure, but the E3 video game conference is going on this week where the industry shows off all the upcoming games, so I'm expecting we'll be having much more solid information on this game by end of the week on most of the major video game sites after EA Sports does it presentation. I'm not sure what the schedule is though, maybe someone else can fill us in. // laughing man 20:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah great, I totally forgot about E3. I read that FIFA 08 was going to be one of the games EA are showing, so as you said, there should be alot more info available then. ThanksHicksy09 20:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should delete any reference to the Northern Irish League as this isn't present in the game. There are three new leagues of which the Eircom league is the only one which has been officially released. I work on the game so can highlight other errors if people would like? Cheers VancouverBlade 23:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The A-League, Greek league, and one or two others have been added again without providing a reference.... please provide references while adding things, or remove them. Thanks guys Hicksy09 05:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

is this a good enough reference for the new leagues? http://youtube.com/user/08FIFA08

To my knowledge no, and i think someone tried to use it as a reference a month or two ago. And i have also looked on that youtube site, and the guy who runs it has denied having any links to EA Sports at all in comments he has made on his page. So in my opinion it is not a reliable source. Hicksy09 09:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miis?

Can somebody please edit the Wii section? As of now it sounds as though Miis will be the only thing used in the game... while the Mii article claims they're just for the mini games. Please either clarify or source this :-) -- MichiganCharms 17:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it has been confirmed the three new leagues for fifa 08 i have copied a link to a website which confirms it..[[1]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.38.161 (talk • contribs)

"Sweet Patch" is not a reliable source. // laughing man 02:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i woould add omsthing to add to my excitment about a-leage getting added to fifa 08 ht [2]= — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.38.161 (talk • contribs)

Something Wrong with the Article

I don't know if it's just my computer, but the complete article looks crazy. Everything is out of place, and it desperately needs a fixing. I would do it myself, but I really don't know too well this editor thing, and I don't want to mess it up anymore. Like I said, it could just be my computer, although I highly doubt it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarshalN20 (talk • contribs) 19:59, July 5, 2007 (UTC)

It looks like an anon broke it -- how does it look now? // laughing man 20:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Much better, thank you very much. MarshalN20 00:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why, but someone keep editing the article, removing information, deleting external links and posting dead links.

--Dennisbp 07:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Florent Malouda of what!?

"Florent Malouda of CHAVSKI and Ribery of Bayern Munich"

Dont tell me maloudo joined us..--212.107.116.240 00:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MLS Tables

Does anyone know if the playoff format used in this year's FIFA game will be correct for the MLS? I know in past years it has been incorrect (one league table instead of split up by divisions) Has EA said if they were planning on correcting this error? 207.230.140.242 20:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't read anything about this for FIFA 08, but instead I think MLS needs to correct the error and switch to a one table league instead of having playoffs ;) // laughing man 21:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If i see anything ill note it on the Article Chaza93review 19:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Realease Date?

Is it September 29 or October 9? I doubt that the European release and US release are that far apart. -MichiganCharms 17:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Septemer 28 is the global release date. This is confirmed by EA Sports. --Dennisbp 07:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Release date hasn't been confirmed yet; the current date is Fall/Autumn 2007. VancouverBlade 23:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has not been confirmed, if it has, please provide a link. // laughing man 02:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Link and confirmation is provided Dennisbp 20:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The link provided to the blog is a not a reliable source. If it was in fact confirmed, it should be very easy to find an official press release about it. // laughing man 21:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair enough laughing man ;) Perhaps you can also tell me who keeps deleting links in the article?83.94.138.94 22:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to the external links to blogs that you keep re-adding, they are not appropriate links for the article. Please review Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided.// laughing man 22:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure its a blog. As far as I can see its a unique resource beyond what the article features and the author seems to have a connection with EA Sports. I see press releases, interviews, demos and similar articles. I fail to see why that doesn't belong in External Links according to the first two bullets in Link Normally To Avoid ;) If a link to a Filefront server with a single video is valid, then surely this site is too :-) Dennisbp 13:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's clearly a blog or personal website, which can easy be determined by the large amounts of advertising. An official site would not requests contributions to "Help me buy a Wii". It seems to me that you own this website and at the moment are very close to spamming. Please stop adding the blog link to this article. // laughing man 14:53, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I read the rules they say personal pages/blogs. As I see fifa2008news.com it contains several facts that belongs in the article, exactl as fifplay.com doesn't contain any information on fifa 2008 at all, except for one interview. The site doesn't require any one to click the ads in order to read the content and if you read the text completely it says My wife won't let me buy a Wii ;). Wiki is about useful information and I think that site offers a lot of information that can't be found in the wiki article. If you can argue that it doesn't then by all means you are right, but until then the link belongs there :-) The interview with Tim Tschirner adds something that isn't mentioned in the wiki article ;)Dennisbp 22:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Big Cover

Sorry about that is there anyway I could decrease the size??? Also how can I copyright it?Mets4life 03:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ulster Banner beside FAI league

why is the former Executive Committee of the Privy Council of Northern Ireland flag being used in the article?--Vintagekits 18:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because when I added the official flag of Northern Ireland you reverted it. There is no reason to remove it, it accurately represents the league as having a club in Northern Ireland. -MichiganCharms 00:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But this a Irish Football League, not a British of Northern Ireland league, so neither of those flags is correct.--padraig 00:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then. Please also remove the flags of Monaco, Canada and Wales from the leagues which they appear. Please stop pushing a political POV, the flag is there because (1.) it's standard practice on multiple country leagues and (2.) it represents fact. Why shouldn't this article reflect the situation that a team from another country plays in that league? You're argument is based on nothing but your own personal POV. when Derry ceases to be in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or Derry City FC stops playing in the FAI then you will have just cause for the removal of the British/ Northern Irish flag. -MichiganCharms 06:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By all means put in an agreed symbol that represents Northern Ireland, but that hasnt been the flag of northern ireland for over 30 year. Alsoplease do not accuse others of being POV pushers when they raise genuine and legitimate concerns. thank you.--Vintagekits 07:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Union Flag is, by law, the flag of Northern Ireland. When that was used, you yourself removed it. If I believe you have an agenda it is because that is what you have shown me in this situation. -MichiganCharms 08:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some people clearly no nothing about football. The NI flag should not be used next to anything to do with the FAI, that is the Association created by southerners after partition. The IFA however, which runs both the Northern Ireland international squad and Irish League football, commonly uses the NI flag to denote NI as a specific, and in football terms, independent region of the UK. The flag is appropriate for use everywhere, but there is no argument against it's use here.Traditional unionist 09:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, we agree, if it was to use beside the Northern Ireland team or the IFA then I would support it as (from looking at there website) both FIFA and UEFA use the Ulster Banner to denote the IFA.--Vintagekits 10:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid you're both missing/ changing the point. Certainly the Football League is not the FIFA sanctioned top league for Wales. Yet Welsh flags are present because there are Welsh clubs. Why should the FAI League be any different? I'm not proposing the FAI is an inclusive body... just the league. If the NI flag dfoesn't belong then also remove the flags of Wales, Monaco and Canada for this and every prior FIFA series article that includes because you'd be changing the precedent. -MichiganCharms 17:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No actually you are missing the point - 1. it is not the Flag of Northern Ireland it is the Ulster banner it does not represent Northern Ireland outside of limited sporting contexts. 2. The Ulster banner can be used to represent Northern Ireland if it is in relation to their soccer team. Now on which basis are you proposing that the Ulster banner is used here??--Vintagekits 18:07, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Answer this question: Why is the flag of Canada on this page? Once you've answered that and successfully proved it shouldn't be, I'll stop asserting Northern Ireland should be represented. - MichiganCharms 18:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is irrelevant to my question. Are you using the Ulster banner to represent the league that Derry City is in of the country that the club is situated in?--Vintagekits 18:14, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The country, the league is obviously the one of Ireland. And you'll see that it is relevant to this because in all similar cases since FIFA 05 two flags have been in use. -MichiganCharms 18:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now we are getting somewhere. We are agreed that Ulster banner should not be used to represent the FAI, but you are saying that the Ulster banner is used to represent the county Northenr Ireland because Derry city is in Northern Ireland, is that right?--Vintagekits 18:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the Union Flag should. Though, if someone finds that objectionable the UB could be used as this is a football context and seeing as the UB is actually used within the game to represent NI. - MichiganCharms 18:30, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No what? can you please be more specific or else we can never resolve this! 1. The Union Flag does not represent Northern Ireland specifically, it represent Northern Ireland as a constituant of the United Kingdom, it would be like using the EU flag to represent Ireland as it is a constituant of that also. 2. Using the Union Flag would be inconsistant as the Union Flag is not used to represent other constituant of the United Kingdom like England/Wales/Scotland so it should not be used for Northenr ireland either, 3. It is misleading and suggests that there are teams from each of the consituants of the United Kingdom are represented in the FAI League, which is not true. 4. I've forgotten my forth point now.--Vintagekits 18:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No the Ulster Banner's use should be restricted as it is extra legal anymore. I agree the Union Flag is misleading, bu barring use of an all Ireland flag (also misleading) I dont see how we could accurately reflect the situation without use of the Ulster Banner. - MichiganCharms 18:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So you are agreeing that the UF is misleading. The Ulster banner is highly conrovertial and is not recognised by much of its population - also there is no current concensus to use the Ulster banner to represent Northern Ireland because of its historic and controvertial nature, please respect that. If you want to agree on a neutral symbl to represent NI (e.g. the NI Assembly logo, or the outline of NI) then I would happy to assist in that discussion but for the above reasons neither the UB or UF should be used here. --Vintagekits 18:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I must disagree... the UB is regularly used to represent Northern Ireland in sporting contexts, this is a sporting context. The flag actually appears in the game to represent the NI national team.-MichiganCharms 19:28, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreeing is fine, but that is the situation that we are at. Like I said no one is disagreeing that the UB is used to represent the Northern Ireland football team but that is not the issue here - if the IFA League was on FIFA 08 then I would have not problem with the UBbeing on it but its not. I've now remembered my point number 4 from above - its was that FIFA does not recognised the United Kingdom as a team anyway so the use of the Union Flag and term United Kingdom in terms of football is utterly falacious.--Vintagekits 19:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity, I was not challenging MichiganCharms. He is right and I support his edits. See my talk pageTraditional unionist 22:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A-League

Is the australian a-leaugue going to be included in this game, because i was looking in this pages history, and someone said the Irland, Russian and Australian leagues were to be debuted in this game. Recently, the Ireland league has been announced, does anyone know about the A-League being included? Dingyv03 04:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]