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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by TNLNYC (talk | contribs) at 12:51, 9 June 2005 (→"this day in history" links from date pages). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Logic for keeping the Tristan Louis entry in wikipedia

So there's a question as to whether Wikipedia wants to keep Tristan_Louis , the entry about me. Initially, I thought it was a bit ridiculous but then I stumbled on the Category:Bloggers. Since I'm technically a "B-list blogger" (see Blogebrity for an example of someone I don't know saying so) and many of the people listed in the Wikipedia blogger category are of the same ilk, I thought I might want to stub my own entry. I then learned about redirect and figured it would be more honest to do the redirect. However, since few people are likely to look for info about me under my login ID, I figured that the entry would be better (and wikipedia will not let me create a username that has a blank space in it).

Looking at the Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies, there seems to be some room for the biography. The list of criteria under "People still alive" specifies that Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more. To this extent, I'd like to submit my bibliography which includes only publications with a circulation of more than 100,000. I'm not including books I contributed to (part of the Net.Guide series in the early 90s) because they are all out of print and I was only working as a Research editor on those titles but I've also written books with an audience of 5,000 or more.

If that has not convinced you, then go ahead and vote for userify or better: do your own research (yes, it passes the Google Test criteria for biographies) and edit it.

No spaces in usernames?

I've seen several users with spaces in their names. Could you expand on why you think Wikipedia doesn't allow it? Mgm|(talk) 15:49, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, in my experience, I tried to register Tristan and Tristan Louis but wikipedia would not let me (hence my settling for TNLNYC). I did not look into the particulars of why but I'm just relating my experience. TNLNYC 17:49, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure that your "this day in history" links add anything to the day articles. Is there a strong reason not to delete them? They kind of make you look like a spammer, considering how small the linked-to pages are. DenisMoskowitz 20:09, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)

Seconded. They contain less information than the article where you add them, so I see no reason my they should be added. I would suggest that you stop to add them and explain first. andy 22:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Response: My apologies. I'll stop adding them for now. I noticed there has been some information I had on my pages that was not in the wikipedia but it's not that often. I try to add it to the Wikipedia when I find it but the idea I had was that if I had the links there at the bottom, I would not have to do a diff between what's in Wikipedia and what I have on my site. I'll stop adding links for now (I've done them through June 30) and will wait for someone to add a note asking me to resume on this page if people want me to resume. --TNLNYC 22:12, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I started removing your external links, but then i decided to stop and talk to you about it. can you explain your project to me? Kingturtle 05:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Response: The idea of the project I'm building was initially to create a historical resource of events and date (that is, when the project started in the pre-wikipedia days of 1995-1996). However, over time it evolved into becoming more of a meta resource of specific events. What do I mean by a specific event: first, it has to be verifiable (agreement on dates and existence of the event by most people... this I accomplish by Googling the date or event name and finding what other people say). Secondly, it has to have survived the passage of time (I set that at a decade: if it's still considered important after a decade it goes in... there is one exception to this rule as I believe most people will remember it after a decade: 9/11/2001). In terms of people's birthdays, I've initially gone by names that were included in some dictionaries I had (I think I started with the dictionary of american culturacy).

As I said in the previous paragraph, the idea pre-dates wikipedia. What I found is some of the data in wikipedia actually came from my own DB (even down to the wording) but some of the content I had in my own DB did not make it into Wikipedia. I was left with two choices then:

  • 1. look in wikipedia and remove the content that was infringing or
  • 2. find a way to merge my stuff more fully into wikipedia (hence I would only maintain a subset of wikipedia's content). I started merging some of the content but realized that it would take me forever.

So I figured it was better to go with option 3, link wikipedia to my DB and let other people take care of that merging. That's what I was starting to do yesterday but someone mentionned on my message page that this was no good. I had done cross-linking through June 30th before I read the message but upon reading it decided to stop and wait until some other wikipedian would ask me to continue to do so (or go ahead and link themselves). In the meantime, I figured I would start working on some other entries I can contribute to. --TNLNYC 12:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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