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August 22

WP:CSD#R3

Resolved

 – Andy^reply 00:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[1]. Deletable under WP:CSD#R3 or no? I think not because it redirects from the template space to the user space, but I'm not 100% sure. ~ Wikihermit 23:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Resolved in IRC - Page is being listed for WP:AFD Andy^reply 00:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

RfD rather :-). ~ Wikihermit 00:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Requesting images

Can you tell me how to request an image? Tina Armstrong article has no image above her profile.

Add {{reqphoto}} to the talk page. Also, please don't use {{helpme}} on the help desk. Thanks, --Werdan7^{T @} 00:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Also see the links under:

• User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Ima

specifically:

• Needed pictures:
  • Wikipedia:Fromowner documentation - inserting a request for an image into an article
  • Wikipedia:Requested pictures
  • Wikipedia:Photo Matching Service
  • Category:Wikipedia requested photographs

--Teratornis 01:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I am a professional writer

I believe there is a fundamental disconnect between Wikipedia and people like me, and I will sum it up by simply saying that I have spent quite a bit of time and energy improving your site (that is, your business venture) through the years, but have received no recompense whatsoever. Zippo. Not even a thank-you card. What is worse, it seems that the site is becoming less user-friendly than ever for good writers to make substantive improvements. 64.39.136.55 01:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts, past, present and (I hope) future. Wikipedia is managed by a non-profit organization and is created through the efforts of thousands of volunteer editors. No tangible compensation will be forthcoming, other than whatever personal satisfaction you might derive from contributing (similar to any other volunteer activity). If you haven't read Wikipedia:Overview FAQ in a while, you might want to read it again (feel free to improve it while you're there). -- Rick Block (talk) 02:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia isn't a business venture. You're not supposed to get compensation for your contributions. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 02:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

In fact, if you are a great contributor, you'll likely get your fair share of complaints. I've been called many nasty things and I'm barely a good contributor, nothing great. -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

If you create an account, you might get some Wikipedia:Awards or Barnstars on your user talk page, not that they have any real value in terms of cash money. However, if most of your edits are to articles, you might have to work pretty hard to get noticed. Accolades seem to flow more freely between Metapedians, if I may safely generalize from my personal sample of one (yeah, that's hardly statistically valid). For example, if you answer several hundred questions on the Help desk, somebody might say thanks. Obviously, the reward on Wikipedia is unlikely to be external. Those who knock themselves out here do so primarily for the enjoyment they get by contributing to the greatest online collaborative project around. To me, Wikipedia is more than merely an attempt to build a free online encyclopedia, it's a chance to take a deep inside look at a stunningly ingenious system for organizing the efforts of millions of physically remote unpaid volunteers and educating them all from scratch with no formal classroom training. Imagine that a time machine sent you back to 1997 and you tried to tell people about the Wikipedia that would exist in 2007. The more details you could describe, the more ridiculous you would sound to them. Nobody back then would be able to believe that a vast horde of unpaid volunteers could actually produce the scope and quality (admittedly uneven, but steadily improving) that you see here today. I don't know about you, but the astonishment I feel from seeing the seemingly impossible coming true every day hasn't really worn off yet. I guess after a few years I might start to feel jaded, and become a Deletionist or something. But for now the thrill is not yet gone, at least for me. Seriously, though, learning how Wikipedia does its thing could have practical benefits, for example, if someone wanted to organize a successful corporate wiki. People who learn to organize people on Wikipedia could probably organize people to do just about anything. Including a number of things that eventually do result in cash money, if that's how you want to roll. --Teratornis 03:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

First, welcome and thank you for interest and sincerity. Second, I too am a professional writer and I had my intial doubts. But like anything worth doing, and doing well, Wikipedia is not easy. There is a learning curve, and the system of operations writers in the professional world know is quite different (to say the least) from the "wiki-world". I encourage you to work through the tough and often frustrating parts for a while and focus on the pure, positive results Wikipedia can provide. Think of that time you logged on to read about the latest scandal or Harry Potter, and ended up learning about South African geopolitics or the Tang Dynasty. Honestly, as to the idea of "recompense", there is a bias towards users with accounts. If you sign up for an account, then the chances of receiving thanks in many forms is a near guarantee. Also, please note that Wikipedia is run by the Wikimedia Foundation, a U.S. non-profit, and is not a capitalist venture. VanTucky ^(talk) 05:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

suggest time and date in outward bound school?

hi there.. I don not know if how will i know how to find a suggested time and date if you go to outward bound sabah.. can you help me?.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.48.132.129 (talk)

Outward Bound provides the website Outward Bound (Sabah) Malaysia. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Summer sleep name

Some animals sleep in winter and some sleep in summer. What is the summer sleep called? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.96.33.150 (talk) 05:21, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

• Estivation. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You may want to check the reference desk in the future for general knowledge questions. The Help Desk (this page) specializes in questions about Wikipedia and help using Wikipedia, whereas general questions generally belong in the appropriate Ref Desk category. Just for future reference ^^ Keakealani 07:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Site not formatting correctly in Palm Smartphone

Hi,

I have a Palm Treo 650. The web browser is palmOne Blazer 4.0.

Blazer displays the Wikipedia one word per line. To illustrate, here's how the previous line would look:

    Blazer
    displays
    the
    Wikipedia
    one
    word
    per
    line.

On the screen, the left vertical menu is normal. Anything text in a chart is normal.

Wikipedia is the only website that this happens to. I have had the phone for almost three years, and 99% of its use it for is web browsing, so I've been to a lot of websites on it.

Is there a way to get Wikipedia to look "normal" on in Blazer?

Thanks!

Paul —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulb104 (talk • contribs) 06:08, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

See comments on (your talk page. Astronaut 13:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

No idea what happened there. My comments disappeared and there's nothing in the history/logs. Can only think I hit back or quit my browser before saving. Anyway, I wrote some thing about this and this Astronaut 00:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Help creating a new page

My name is Sean Fetherston and I am trying to start the encyclopedia page for my late father, Brian Lloyd Fetherston. He was a famous American artist. I would like the right to have his name appear exactly as, Brian Lloyd Fethertson. I noticed that the name has already been reserved, but this might be for a different individual? Please help.

Thank you,

Sean Fetherston —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 123bluespirit (talk • contribs) 07:27, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

I'm not sure what you mean by "reserved" - articles either exist or they don't, you can't reserve an article. On the vein of creating your article, I would suggest you have someone else start the article - not only does it verify notability, but it helps prevent original research. It's not a problem if your father actually is notable, but it's something to be aware of. Keakealani 07:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Newdegate Machinery Field Days - Western Australia

Hi guys, Peter Walker from the Newdegate machinery field days. I noticed that you had our old websites address on your site could you please change it to www.nfday.com.au thanks . Peter Walker Any problems please contact me email address removed —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.154.24.147 (talk)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

What exactly is a revert?

I've read the definition of a revert:

"...in the context of the English Wikipedia three revert rule, a revert is defined... as any change to an article that partially or completely goes back to any older version of an article."[2]

So if X adds to the article, "Joe is a leading biochemist," and Y deletes that addition, Y has done a clear revert. But if X then tries again with a different phrase, "Joe is a well-known biochemist," or simply, "Joe is a biochemist," is that a revert? It doesn't take the article back to a previous state, but it does restore several deleted words. Is that "partially [going] back to [an] older version" or not?

It seems to me that if X's second try is considered to be a revert (un-revert) of Y, then it is going to be very hard to work out compromise wordings without accidentally reverting and potentially getting in trouble for 3RR violations. Am I missing something?

What if X tags an article "accuracy disputed," and Y deletes that tag. Y has done a revert, right? Now supposed that at some time in the future, editor Z, who doesn't know that the article was ever tagged, adds an "accuracy disputed" tag. Is that a revert?

Or supposed that X tries again to tag the article, but with a different tag, say "neutrality disputed" (instead of "accuracy disputed"). Can adding a tag which has never before been in an article be considered to be a revert, if a different tag was in the article sometime in the past?

I've searched quite a bit, but not found an answer. If this is covered somewhere and I just missed it, please forgive me. Thanks! 71.70.174.217 08:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

• It seems to be a little subjective, but the policy indicates that "An editor does not have to perform the same revert on a page more than three times to breach this rule; all reverts made by an editor on a particular page within a 24 hour period are counted". --Old Moonraker 09:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Try thinking of it this way: A revert is something you do when you deliberately (for whatever reason) remove the contributions of an editor before you. If you go to a page, and find the last editor left a big line of swear words, you would use the "rollback" option, or the "Undo" option. Those are both "reverts" in the context of your actions. You're reverting the changes of the person before you. What the policy is talking about is you reverting any changes 3 times, regardless of the content or the person you're reverting. You're basically denying them the ability to add information, by continually rolling back their work. (Not you, but the hypothetical person engaging in a 3RR.)

Now, if the editor you reverted comes back, and makes a genuine addition to the article, after you've reverted their previous obnoxious edit, their edit is not considered a revert, that's considered a contribution, because it is assisting, not hindering. However, if they simply "undo" or "rollback" your reversion of their earlier work, restoring their work, that is considered a revert. (Hope that makes sense, sounds better in my head! )

While this is a simplified way to explain it, it covers nearly all of the reasons you'll hear the word "revert" on Wikipedia: It is removing someone's edit, for whatever reason, but if it is for a valid reason, (i.e. vandalism) as long as you fill out the edit summary box, explaining your actions, there should be no problem If something you're reverting is obvious vandalism, that's not going to get you a 3RR notice, because you are keeping vandalism off the article (and I mean obvious, like cursing, racial slurs, rude pictures, personal attacks, etc.). If you've reverted someone for those actions four times, and you've notified them on their talk page that their actions are not appropriate, asking them to stop three + times, then you can report them to WP:AIV following the instructions there. But be sure they're genuinely vandalizing, that's not for reporting things like content disputes, or spelling errors, or anything of that nature. If you're interested in the Recent Changes side of Wikipedia, helping to assist with vandalism, I would be more than happy to give you a resource that covers the things to know before you start, how to warn users, what's considered vandalism, etc. Feel free to drop me a note on my talk page and I'll give you the link.

What if X tags an article "accuracy disputed," and Y deletes that tag. Y has done a revert, right?

Yes.

Now supposed that at some time in the future, editor Z, who doesn't know that the article was ever tagged, adds an "accuracy disputed" tag. Is that a revert?

No, if they did not use the "rollback" or "undo", and had no idea the tag had been placed there, that's a contribution. Now, if user Y then deletes editor Z's tag, that's a revert. He's again reverting that change.

Technically, there are situations where you may be in the 3RR area, without the reverting of the same person repeatedly, but for the purposes of your question, I wouldn't really stress it. Just the fact that you're asking what it is, would tell me you're not someone who is about to go around edit warring people.

Just think of it like math. Revert is subtraction. Anything you're taking away that someone before you did. Edits and contributions are additions. Anything you're adding to (or augmenting) an article, to improve it, is a contribution. (Of course, some contributions remove information, such as when you condense overly long articles, but you're not just "rolling back" the edits of another user, you're contributing information to improve the article.)

Sorry for the verbosity, but I hope that helps you understand! Ciao, ^Ariel♥Gold 09:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much, ArielGold & Old Moonraker!

So, in my first example above, if X adds to the article, "Joe is a leading biochemist," and Y deletes that addition, and X then tries again with a different phrase, like "Joe is a well-known biochemist," or simply, "Joe is a biochemist," has X done a revert? My guess is "no, it is not a revert." Am I right?

But suppose that X tried again to add the exact same phrase to the article: "Joe is a leading biochemist," after Y had reverted/deleted it. ArielGold, you said that reverting is like subtraction, but wouldn't this be an example in which an addition is a revert?

But, if so, what about this case? Suppose that X tries to add a slightly larger snippet of text to the article, which includes the phrase, "Joe is a leading biochemist." Perhaps it is the sentence, "Joe is a leading biochemist, specializing in peptides." Y reverts it and in the edit summary says that though Joe is a biochemist, he's not a "leading" biochemist. So X tries again, and adds almost the same snippet, but deletes the word "leading" to address the objection. The modified sentence is "Joe is a biochemist, specializing in peptides." Has X done a revert (regardless of his intent)? It doesn't resemble "subtraction," but several words that Y deleted are now back in the article. Does that make it a revert?

Similarly, in my second example, what if X tags an article "accuracy disputed," and Y deletes that tag, and X then tries again to tag the article, but with a different tag, say "neutrality disputed" instead of "accuracy disputed." Can adding a different tag be considered to be a revert?

Ciao, 71.70.174.217 10:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Now I'm getting out of my "comfort zone" of wikipedia knowledge, but removing legitimate tags (or indeed adding unjustified tags) without dealing with the problem can be a form of vandalism (abuse of tags) and therefore wouldn't count. The practical answer is to sort it out on the talk page, along the lines of your illustrative edit summaries: it's the same, but you do it before rather than after the edit! Best. --Old Moonraker 13:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Basically, I think that you're really over-analyzing it. In the context of people using the word "revert" here on Wikipedia, 99% of the time it means to "rollback" or "undo" a previous person's contribution, for whatever reason. (Most usually done in cases of vandalism, but also happens during edit wars.)

Don't get hung up on the vernacular, if you have a legitimate reason to revert someone's changes (i.e. "undo" their contribution, without typing anything into the article yourself), then do it, such as finding vandalism. If someone is removing valid tags from articles, feel free to revert them after you verify that the tag is still needed. If an "unreferenced" tag is on a page, and someone goes and adds in some valid references, they are free to remove the tag when they are finished. So be sure that they didn't simply fix the problem before you replace the tag.

Don't sweat the small stuff. You're obviously concerned about doing things correctly, and that's a good thing, but you're also worrying about things that probably won't end up bing a big deal; if you have come here to ask what reverts/3RR are, then I would doubt you're about to engage in an edit war, lol. Just don't revert additions that you personally don't agree with. If they are sourced, if the source cited is reliable, and if it is written neutrally, then there's no reason to remove it. If you see someone engaging in an edit war, or if someone else is continually removing your contributions, with no explanation, (and again I stress the need for using the edit summary for all edits, no matter how small) then go to their talk page, and ask them nicely to stop removing your edits, and request they discuss any issues they may have with the additions you've made on the article's talk page. 9 times out of 10 that will get the lines of discussion going and the issue can be discussed, rather than simply reverted over and over. Hope that helps, ^Ariel♥Gold 22:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Please forgive my persistence. Let me offer a concrete example.

Editor X removes a {{pov}} tag from a long controversial biographical article.

Has X committed tag vandalism?

Editor Y then adds a {{TotallyDisputed-section}} tag.

Has Y done a revert?

Thanks! 71.70.174.217 13:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This should answer your question:

If the POV tag is under dispute (some believe the article is POV, others do not), what X did would be more like edit warring than vandalism

In the technical definition, no, Y did not do a revert. However, this would, in any discussions about a possible 3RR violation or edit warring, be considered a revert. The totally-disputed tag still disputes neutrality like the POV tag does. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 13:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm still confused. How can the very same thing be "in the technical definition... not... a revert," and also "be considered a revert?" It seems that it must be either a revert or not a revert (or else be a "gray area" or ill-defined case).

The general question seems to be, if an editor deletes something from an article, and another editor tries to replace the deleted text with new text which has different wording, has the second editor done a revert? Consider the first example I posed:

If Y deletes "Joe is a leading biochemist" from an article, and X then tries to replace it with a different phrase, such as "Joe is a well-known biochemist," or "Joe is a biochemist," is that a revert? It doesn't take the article back to a previous state, but it does restore several deleted words. So, is that "partially [going] back to [an] older version" or not?

It seems to me that these cases might not be well-defined. On one hand, reinserting a lengthy passage with just a token change "seems like" a revert to me. But, on the other hand, if just having a similar meaning and/or some words in common makes the new version a revert of the delete, it seems that it is going to be very difficult for editors to "try out" different variations of a passage without risking censure for edit-warring or 3RR. In the extreme case, if just having some words in common is deemed to make the new insertion a "revert," then if X ever again inserts text that uses the word "Joe" he could be accused of a partial revert.

So, getting specific again...

If Y deletes "Joe is a leading biochemist" from the article, and X adds something in its place, which of the following "somethings" would be clearly reverts, which would clearly not be reverts, and which are "gray area" or arguable?

1. "Joe is a well-known biochemist."

2. "Joe is a biochemist."

3. "Joe is a professor of biochemistry at Oxford, and holds the prestigious Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky Endowed Chair for Peptide Research."

4. "Joe is married with three children."

Also, regarding the gray-area/arguable cases (if any), I have a second question: If an accusation is made of 3RR or edit warring on the basis of such an edit, who should have the benefit of the doubt? The accused or the accuser?

I realize I'm being a bit of a pest. Please forgive me. I really appreciate your patience with me! 71.70.174.217 02:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Does nobody know? 71.70.174.217 06:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I guess not. Summarizing what has been said so far, and extrapolating, my best guess/understanding is that:

• Ariel Gold would not consider either Y's tag insertion or any of the four "Joe" examples to be reverts, because they were all "additions" to the article rather than "subtractions."
• Old Moonraker is unsure about the "Joe" examples, but thinks that Y's tag insertion would not count as a revert, because X's removal of the other tag could be considered to be a form of "tag vandalism." But Old Moonraker suggests that Y would be on firmer ground if he discussed his tag insertion on the Talk page first.
• Mr. Z-man didn't comment about the "Joe" examples, so he is probably unsure about them, but he says that Y's tag insertion is not technically a revert yet could be considered to be equivalent to a revert in a 3RR case because the meaning of the new tag is similar to that of the tag it replaced. Also, he agrees with Old Moonraker that if X removed the previous tag without consensus that might be a Wiki-offense, but thinks it is more of a case of edit warring rather than tag-vandalism.

Is all of that right?

Additionally, though nobody has said so, I'm going to assert that "4 Joe is married with three children" is plainly not a revert, even though there are a couple of words in common, because the meaning is completely different from what X had deleted. But I guess the other three "Joe" examples and Y's tag insertion must all be "grey areas," neither clearly reverts nor clearly not reverts. Is that right?

What's more, since nobody has tried to answer the question about who is supposed to get the benefit of the doubt when one editor charges another with 3RR or similar on the basis of "gray area" possible reverts, my guess is that nobody knows. Is that right?

71.70.174.217 19:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

<-(UI)I'm sorry that we were not able to sufficiently answer your questions. I still think perhaps you're analyzing it a bit too much, and that you probably do not need to worry about it to such a specific extent. If you're in a revert war, I'm pretty sure you'll know it, because you'll be intentionally reverting another person's changes. The WP:3RR pages and the Help:Reverting pages are honestly pretty thorough, but they also probably imply that common sense must be used. If you want a hard and fast rule, then take it from the Help:Reverting guideline, that states: "In consideration of the harm of reverting, Wikipedia policy states that you may not revert any article more than three times in the same day. This is a very strict limit, not a given right; you should not revert any one article more than three times daily." (obviously this is not applicable if you're removing obvious, harmful vandalism). I hope that helps. ^Ariel♥Gold 20:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that repeated reverts are verboten, Ariel Gold. I also understand that simply deleting what another editor added is a revert, and that clicking on the "undo" link in the history to restore something is a revert. Those cases are clear. My question is, what else is a revert? If, after one editor has deleted something, another editor tries to replace it with something similar, is that a revert? E.g., what about those "Joe the biochemist" examples and Y's tag insertion example (above)? Does anyone know which (if any) of those examples are reverts? 71.70.174.217 17:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

It depends on what Y is objecting to. I'd imagine 1. yes, 2. yes, 3. arguable, but probably yes, 4. no. But as ArielGold writes, you're asking the wrong question. The right question should be, what should X be doing here? And the answer is, X should be bringing the question up on the article talk page.

Joe the leading biochemist

I added text saying that Joe is a leading biochemist, and it got deleted. Why is that? Is the objection to the "leading" part, or to the "biochemist" part? --X 2007-08-28

Joe is a well known fraud and a complete waste of space --Y 2007-08-28

What? But this article from Micronesia Today says he led the ABC biochemistry project --X 2007-08-28

(and so forth, until ...)

OK, so we're agreed, we'll write "Micronesia Today calls Joe the leading scientist in the ABC biochemistry project,^[1] though Micronesia Tomorrow accuses Joe of improperly usurping that title from Fred.^[2]"

And the article gets better than if merely one editor had written it. Don't split hairs about interpretation of rules, try to get actual agreement from other editors. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 18:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

C & P move

Hi. What is a C&P move when an admin moves a page without discussion in WP:Requested moves. Thanks Tbo ¹⁵⁷talk 10:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Sorry let me rephrase the question to make it clearer. Why is it that some admins move possibly controversial titles listed in requested moves with no discussion? Tbo ¹⁵⁷talk 10:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Tbo ¹⁵⁷talk 10:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

10 main pages?

What's the purpose of having 10 copies of the main page? [3] -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 10:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It means that a compromised admin account would need to unprotect eleven pages in order to affect the main page. --Cherry blossom tree 11:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Redirects

Is it acceptable to create a redirect from the adjective to the related noun? Also, is there a fast way of making wikilinks with plurals like this: [[word]]s that works also with word ending with "y" without having to pipeline it? -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 10:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's a good thing to create any redirect that people might actually search for. If you wikilink any part of a word then the whole word turns into a link, so if that's possible with a word then you can do that. There's no way to do it with more complex forms, though, since English isn't sufficiently standardised. --Cherry blossom tree 11:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

So, one could potentially combine the two things and wikilink an adjective (without pipelining) relying on its redirect to the noun? But I guess that's just a bad practice; I'm not going to do this, I'm just curious. Also, where are redirect pages discussed? Can they be deleted even if the article to which they point isn't deleted? What is the appropriate space for discussing creation/deletion of such redirect pages? thanks -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 12:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Redirects are created without discussion, but I suppose you could suggest it on the target talk page if you anticipate a problem. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion for deletion of redirects. It's common to link to a redirect although a direct link is preferred in most situations. Avoid double redirects. PrimeHunter 13:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

overwriting article; is this a candidate for RPP?

In vandalism patrol, I've come across an article, Aswamedham, that is being consistently overwritten with a similarly named topic. The first time, I restored the old article and requested on Talk:Aswamedham that the contents not be overwritten. I also gave detailed instructions for starting a new page; even for moving the old one if they felt their "Aswamedham" was more notable than the existing one. (Hard to say, since neither article offers any sourcing whatsoever.) The second time it happened, I left a note at the page of the registered editor who overwrote the article with the same request and instructions. This is day 3. Overwriting editor overwrote again; another editor added more. Nothing has been written on the discussion page about it. I've never encountered this sort of situation before. Would one request page protection for the page? Begin warning the editor for page blanking or unconstructive edits? Invite mediation? This a new one in my Wikipedia experience, and I would be grateful for guidance. --Moonriddengirl 12:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

• Don't have an answer for you, but I've put the page on my watchlist. The new material is probably spam. AndyJones 13:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to hear other people's opinions, but my first thought is that you go ahead and make the existing page into a disambiguation page by moving it to something like Aswamedham (TV show). Then you edit the redirect into the disambiguation page, create a new page called something like Aswamedham (newspaper) and post the text they keep trying to overwrite there, using a descriptive edit summary noting where the text came from to comply with the GFDL. Note that in writing this, I have not studied the pages to see whether the subjects appear inappropriate to have areticles at all. Little use disambiguating that which will be deleted soon after through some process.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I would happily launch a new page for them, but I can't find any third party reliable sources for their newspaper. They may be out there, but Malayalam is Greek to me. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:14, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Overwrite #4. I've reverted it again. I've decided to hold to the blanking policy, which mentions "removing all or significant parts of pages, or replacing entire established pages with one's own version without first gaining consensus." I gave the guy a kind of cobbled level 1 warning at his talk page, with a specific offer to help him start a new page if he can provide verification. If he persists (and persists in offering me absolutely no response), I suppose I'll escalate warnings per policy. --Moonriddengirl 03:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

wiki hostels free listing

About wiki hostels- i really tried to list our hostel there but there is no such a link to do it. How to list my hostel in wiki hostels? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Haloe (talk • contribs) 14:07, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

Please see external links. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Making a page for a family member.

We are supposed to make a wiki page for school on our family members or ourselves. How do i start my own page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GiovanniPetersen (talk • contribs) 14:36, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

Go to a wiki which allows this type of material and explore there. This is list of Wikis which you might provide you a place to start. You may not post pages on your family members on this site, as Wikipedia (a particular wiki) is an encyclopedia, and is thus only the place for material that is verifiable through citation to reliable independent sources such as newspapers, magazines and books, We also have a prohibition against people writing about themselves and people they know as that presents a conflict of interest. This goes hand in hand with our policy that material must be written from a neutral point of view, which is very hard to achieve when the writer is not at some remove from the subject being written about. If you write such articles here they are likely to be deleted within a short time after posting.--Fuhghettaboutit 14:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

That school project seems to misunderstand the puropse of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, social networking, or memorial site and such pages probably will get deleted. Unless that is the lesson your teacher is seeking to convey, you might want to suggest to your teacher a better school project, such as creating a Wikipedia page for a historical figure who does not yet have a Wikipedia page. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Unless your school itself has a school-wide or town-wide wiki, in which case you want to log on to that, not wikipedia itself. Kuronue | Talk 18:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Clear Watchlist

Hey. If I click 'Clear Watchlist' will it delete all the pages on my watchlist or will it just delete the log of changes? Thanks. (Oh if it just deletes the log, do most people clear it when they have read through the changes so they know which ones are new when the next look at watchlist). Thanks  Tiddly Tom  16:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It removes all the pages from your watchlist. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 17:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Thats annoying :(  Tiddly Tom  19:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

names of God

What are the different names of God written in the Bible? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.215.120.53 (talk) 17:16, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

This is the help desk, for inquiries about Wikipedia. You probably want the humanities reference desk. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 17:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

This google search might help. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You could start by reading the Yahweh article and following links from it. Also see:

• Category:Names of God
• Category:Names of God in Judaism

--Teratornis 18:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Finding an item in OTRS

As someone not otherwise involved in the OTRS system, I once used Wikipedia:OTRS to get an OTRS number that was missing from its corresponding article filled out; however, it seems that the page has been repurposed.

Right now, I'm hoping to find whether proper permission has been obtained and archived with regards to the contents of one particular article. What would be the current procedure for doing so? (Unfortunately, Wikipedia:Confirmation of permission is merely a redirect that provides no information on actual confirmation.) –Unint 18:25, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

workbook on stopping smoking

could you please help me source a workbook on stopping smoking i can use for my stopping smoking campaign —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.159.87.122 (talk) 19:01, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

The help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia - you might like to look at Smoking cessation as a starting point however, and from personal experience I can recommend the series of books by Allen Carr/ Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 19:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Accents / special characters -- searchability

I recently created a new article for Tr'ochek, a heritage site near Dawson City, Yukon.

The correct spelling for the place is actually Tr’ochëk (note accent on the "e"). When I created the article, I did not use the accent. When the article was published to Wikipedia, the accent "magically" appeared in the article's title. How did this happen?

Accents also seem to affect your search function. Type in Tr'ochek (no accent) and you get a "No page with that title exists" message. I assume that most Wiki users won't enter special characters when conducting a search.

How do you normally deal with special characters in article titles? 207.189.243.118 20:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Special characters. --Silver Edge 20:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Can't access new account

Yesterday I created an account with username "orrice" specifying password (strong, but including a space in the middle) and email account. I then was unable to log on to this account, with "incorrect password or confirmation code" message. Today I tried again, with same result. I asked for a new password, but the error message said there was no email address associated with orrice. I then created a new account with the same username, password, and email. Again I couldn't log in--same error message. I then asked for a new password, same result as yesterday. What am I doing wrong?

Since I don't know how to reach the Help Desk page, please let me know so I can read your reply.

70.20.174.126 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:30, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

ExtraWP help (Firefox search engine plug in need)

This is an odd request. I would like to add the Encyclopedia of Chicago search engine plug in to my Firefox browser so that I can better serve WP:CHICAGO as its director. I don't know how to create it at http://mycroft.mozdev.org/ Can someone help me out.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look at this --h2g2bob (talk) 23:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I've added it here using their nifty form. --h2g2bob (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Internal co-linking possible?

Hi everyone. Just made a small addition to the "Structure" sub-heading 0f the Odyssey article. I mentioned the fact that the in media res style was later also used by Alexander Pope and, on searching, noticed that, whilst there was an article on his mock-heroic style, there were no references to the equally-common synonynmous label of "mock-epic". Do you consider this important and, if so, is it possible to link the two terms to 'point' to the explicating artucle on mock-heroic? Tamsyn 23:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I added your post to the Odyssey talk page since it may receive a better answer there. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism

When I revert someone's edits, how do I identify it as vandalism? Is there a button that I need to click? Or do I type it into the edit summary box? Thanks. Oidia (talk) 23:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Reverting. --Silver Edge 23:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

August 23

Legal ramifications of using an image

Alright, I want to take this image and make a stencil out of it, and then make a couple band t-shirts, and sell them for a profit. What are the legal ramifications of this? I'm not sure I understand the creative commons' stand on profiting for freely distributable works. thanks!! - 75.71.2.93 00:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

That Rock dove image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License. In short: you are free to share and make derivative works of the file under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, and that you distribute it only under a license identical to one provided. See official license for the official license. Although the help desk cannot answer the legal aspects of your question, there are many business lawyers who should be able to help you understand how your business proposal fits within the the creative commons' stand on profiting for freely distributable works. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

From the image description, the author has the web site: http://www.naturespicsonline.com/ which has an email address on it. Why not drop the person a line? You could probably sort out some kind of deal. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

let's paint tv was deleated a few days ago...

Let's Paint TV Search string: (

• wp
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Let's Paint Tv was deleated a few days ago. I am not the author but the artist himself, John Kilduff of Let's Paint TV. I have had hundreds of viewers to the page and I was surprised that someone questioned it's appeal to society. What can I do to get it back up? I am sure I could drum up my fan base if needed. Thanks John —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Letspainttv (talk • contribs) 00:31, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Let's Paint TV (cache) was deleted through proposed deletion - someone suggested it, and nobody disagreed. Wikipedia only accepts articles about things which have "received significant coverage [from] reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject" - the notability criteria. If this is the case, make a request at deletion review to undelete the page. --h2g2bob (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi John. Let's Paint TV was deleted because the article contained no independent reliable source material. Before you go through the effort to ask that the article be restored, please keep in mind that Wikipedia articles should be composed of reliable source material that is independent of you or Let's Paint TV. Has your TV show been covered by any newspapers (even alternative newspapers), books, etc.? If not, then it is unlikely that the article will be restored. If so, then you should list those in your deletion review request to have the article restored. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Since this Let's Paint TV was deleted through PROD, a request for reconsideration will result in its restoration. It will also probably be immediately sent to AfD, so any sources that might indicate its notability would have to be added very quickly, otherwise the delete opinions will quickly swamp the discussion. Dsmdgold 02:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If there comes a deletion debate for the article then please don't "drum up" your fan base. That would be against Wikipedia:Sockpuppets#Meatpuppets. PrimeHunter 01:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi again John. I asked Dsmdgold to restore John Kilduff. See this thread. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi John. I asked MastCell to restore Let's Paint TV. See this thread. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing tags from page after references included

Hello, one of my pages was tagged due to lack of references. I added references tonight, but noticed the page is still coming up as tagged. Can you tell me how to remove the tag warning? Thanks so much in advance for our help! The page is William C Rhodes. Thanks so much in advance for your help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jesscubes (talk • contribs) 00:32, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Once the article has been edited to resolve whatever problem the cleanup tag is talking about, you can just remove it yourself. Cleanup tags are placed at the very top of the article (or section, if they only apply to part of the article), and look like this: {{Unreferenced}}. I've removed the references for you, but the article has severe neutrality issues and borders on spam, so I've put up a new cleanup tag for that. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Yes so how does one archive a discussion page? --LtWinters 01:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It's as easy as copy-and-paste. See Help:Archiving a talk page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Embedding Google maps in Wikipedia pages

Is it possible to embed a Google map in a Wikipedia page? This would be a great way to enhance articles about places and/or subjects relating to a specific locality.

Thanks! ThreeKings 02:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

No. Not only does the required HTML tag not work in Mediawiki, Google Maps are copyrighted and thus not compatible with Wikipedia's licensing. We do provide coordinates, which can be copied and pasted into Google Earth if people have it. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

See: mw:Extension:Google Maps which runs on the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, but it's not installed here (see Special:Version for a list of installed extensions). --Teratornis 01:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your swift and accurate answer. How about a Google Maps "My Maps" map ... i.e. a map that I've customised? Is that any different to using a stock Google Map or is the copyright issue still there? For example, see the external link at the end of Knox Basketball Inc. Thanks! 3K ThreeKings 02:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You created a derivative work which still would violate Google's copyright in the underlying map. The folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps might be able to give you direct assistance. However, if the answer is too slow in comming, try Golbez, Kmusser, Astrokey44, or MapMaster. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Your answer makes perfect sense. I don't think there's any other way around this so I'll just stick with my external link. Thanks again for the advice. 3K ThreeKings 05:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

how to make wiki

how do you make a wiki about a new topic —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.244.23.45 (talk) 01:53, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

You want to create a new article? Visit Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Introduction. Sancho 01:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you actually want to create a wiki (as opposed to merely starting a new page on an existing wiki), see: b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. But first, check WikiIndex to see if a wiki already exists on your topic. --Teratornis 02:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A silly question about signatures...

Hey, I've got a question about signatures; I'm trying to customize mine own (code printed below), but am having trouble. When I paste it in the signature box under my preferences and click raw signature I get an error message that says, "Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags." What am I doing wrong? Thanks, --Rise Above the Vile 02:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC) [[User talk:Rise Above the Vile|<big><big><b><font face="rage italic" color ="lightgreen">Rise <font color ="green">Above <font color ="darkgreen">The <font color="black">Vile</font></b></big></big>]]

The problem is caused by opening up four font tags and only closing one. Try this:

[[User talk:Rise Above the Vile|<font face="rage italic" size="16pt" weight="bold"><font color="lightgreen">Rise </font><font color="green">Above </font><font color="darkgreen">The </font><font color="black">Vile</font></font>]]

Warning: There is a character limit, and that may not fit. Come back if it doesn't. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Also note that you'll get a slew of complaints if you use big text in a signature. -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding Link

I don't want to sound childish but there's a link I'd like to add but other users keep deleting it. its not a spam link its a fan website that i made myself. and I worked hard on it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BlackFrostFan (talk • contribs) 02:15, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

You may be interested in reading WP:EL. Dismas|^(talk) 02:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you made the site yourself, Conflict of interest might be good reading as well. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Is this the link? There is an official link which I added to the article. If you can get Florida Championship Wrestling to make your site the official fan site, you might be able to add the link to the article. On looking into the matter, the article states Florida Championship Wrestling started in mid-2007, but this link shows a Florida Championship Wrestling in 1999.-- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually that official site belongs to the original promotion from the National Wrestling Alliance. It has no connection with the development territory started by World Wrestling Entertainment.-- bulletproof ^3:16 03:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A couple notes…

I have noticed that several articles about people used to, but no longer, have images at the top of the infobox. Is there a reason for this? A reply may be posted either here or on my talk page (link is in my signature). A list of such people can be found here. Also, is there a general talk page anywhere in Wikipedia? If there is, please link to it in your reply. - Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 01:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

At an educated guess, I would say that most of those now-missing images were under a claim of fair use, and were deleted because pictures of people aren't generally considered to be irreplaceable. Since anyone can take a picture of a person and release it under a free license, copyrighted images of people are usually deleted. I've got a more in-depth explanation here which I gave for my adoptee earlier today.

As for your second question, I'm not really sure, sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

They changed how they enforced template:Non-free promotional, which disqualified many promotional images. I had a two such promotional images uploaded. This one was not replaceable since the image was from the company while he was in the company (and no longer is there). This one was replaceable. I let both be deleted. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Just curious what would have happened if you had not "let both be deleted"? Astronaut 01:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

process plant

why we are iso butane as a carrier in poly ethylene process instead of n-butane. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.148.96.68 (talk) 03:33, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

could you please tell me why we are using iso-butane as a carrier in the poly ethylen process instead of n-butane. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.148.96.68 (talk) 03:36, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Two sites that might help you are google search. Also try Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

reporting personal attack

where and how should i report personal attacks.User talk:Yousaf465 04:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Try here WP:WQA. -- Sethie 04:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

For abusive behaviour, we have a dispute resolution procedure. Please take such disputes to requests for comment, requests for mediation, or requests for arbitration. Any messages that egregiously violate Wikipedia's civility or personal attacks policies may be removed. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It's too complex see the message of my talk page to which hi referring to as personal attack.User talk:Yousaf465

CHICKEN REARING

I WOULD NOTES ON CHICKEN (BROILER) REARING. -- 66.36.212.169 (talk · contribs · logs) 04:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you want information on having a chicken as a pet, please see the "Chickens as pets" section from the Chicken article. If you want information about rearing chickens for agricultural production, you might want to take a look at the "Chickens in agriculture" section. This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. If you have questions about knowledge in general, the reference desk is intended for those. Gracenotes^T § 04:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A broiler is a chicken slaughtered for meat while it is still young and tender. Broilers are sometimes reared on a grass range using a method called Pastured poultry. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, the chicken's dead? *headdesks* Gracenotes^T § 05:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Images

How do you add pictures to a page? 05:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Grenade-Man

Please see Help:Images. Also please review the copyright policy and external links policy. ^Ariel♥Gold 05:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding Coordinates

How do I add coordinates to an article? I mean for the location of the article's subject, in the top right corner. Is there a tutorial? I looked, but if there is, I cannot find it. DerGolgo 05:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Wait, I found Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates and figured it out.DerGolgo 06:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

{{Geolinks-US-streetscale|44.9789|-93.2450}} adds info in addition to coordinates in the top right corner. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

{{Geolinks-US-streetscale}} seems to be deprecated now. We should use {{coord}}, at least according to its documentation. I have no idea who decides what the proper coordinate template is. --Teratornis 17:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

ISSUE OF PROVISIONAL CERTIFICATE

Dear Sir, That on 19th day of august I on behalf of my son Samiran Misra,a Botany student of your institution who has passed out in year 2006,applied for provisional certificate after haveing been forwarded by the Department Head and the Principal. I was told that the same will be forwarded to the Sikha Bhaban within 23rd day of August. But today i,e 23rd day of August they refused to deliver the same for the reason that my son's signature is requard. I apporched them in every possible manner but all in vain. Also I told them that I the authorisation letter of my son. Now that in absence of the provisional certificate my son canot sit for CAT inspite of the fact that he has fulfilled all other criteria. Now I here by callupon you to issue the certificate with in 10.30 hors of 24th day of August,failing which I shall be compailed to take appropriete step in the manner I think best. Swapan Kr. Misra 9832120567 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.198.225 (talk) 07:31, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid you are in the wrong place. We are Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia. We are not an educational institution. Raven4x4x 08:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Help regd Thumbnail

Hi all,

installed imagemagick on my wiki server for getting thumbnailing feature to work.I also made the follwowing changes to the loaclsettings.php file.But still iam getting this error "Warning: exec() [function.exec ]: Unable to fork [""C:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.3.5-Q16\convert" -quality 80 -background white -size 180 "E:\Wiki\mediawiki-1.7.1/images/e/e4/EagletonTripPic2.JPG" -coalesce -resize "180x135!" -depth 8 "E:\Wiki\mediawiki- 1.7.1/images/thumb/e/e4/EagletonTripPic2.JPG/180px-EagletonTripPic2.JPG" 2>&1"] in E:\Wiki\mediawiki-1.7.1\includes\GlobalFunctions.php on line 1719" The modifications i did are

$wgEnableUploads = true; $wgUseImageResize = true; $wgUseImageMagick = true; $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert";

Kindly respond ASAP

Regards,

Priya.N —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prinav (talk • contribs) 08:26, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Make sure you've installed ImageMagick, and then change $wgImageMagickConvertCommand to point to the convert.exe program, which is part of ImageMagic. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

I did all the modifications.But itsn not working.Any thoughts???

Regards,

Priya.N

Getting my page to work

Hi Im having problems with being able to view my page now that i have completed it. when i type in my page on the search bar it doesnt come up showing it exists. The Earlybirds (band) 08:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

That is because you've created your user name, as the the page you wanted, and thus, you've created a WP:Userpage, not an article. If you'd like Wikipedia to search user space as well as mainspace, you can change that in your preferences. If you'd like the article published into the mainspace, I'd suggest that you go post it over at Articles for creation. If you're sure it qualifies for an article, as guided by notability policy, and reliable sources, then I would suggest that you request an administrator move it from your user space, and you may need to change your username, so it isn't considered a conflict of interest if you edit it. On that note, if you are in that band, then that policy would apply, and you should consider having someone else write the article. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 08:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

) Well, your page is working fine... the thing is you put the article up for your userpage, which not an article. Hope this helps WP:YFA Sethie 08:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

How to navigate

Hi Wikipedia is so huge , that i am unable to decide where to start from. Can you guide me how to navigate the site properly.

Does wikipedia have RSS feeds

Thanks Punit —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Punitchhabra (talk • contribs) 08:52, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

You could always use the random article link on the left, or you could just start by searching for things that interest you, or you could go to the main page, using the links from there, they lead all over Wikipedia! Cheers, ^Ariel♥Gold 08:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Use the search box on the left of the page, or go to the contents page. --h2g2bob (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

For RSS feeds, see: Wikipedia:Syndication. If you want to edit on Wikipedia (as opposed to just reading articles) see the Editor's index. See Help:Search and User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#sea for lots of ways to search Wikipedia. If you cannot find what you want on a specific topic, you could ask at the Reference desk. In keeping with such a huge project, Wikipedia provides many ways for you to access content. --Teratornis 22:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

User name already in use?

Hi

I am trying to login using a username which is quite unuaual (all alpha though) and is always accepted as unique. Wikipedia rejects it as 'in use' (which can happen if I have forgotten I had signed up before) but when I go to 'lost password' the system says no email address is registered, which seems to imply the username isn't registered.

Is there any other explanation for what appears to be an illogical situation please?

86.7.35.135 08:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Email address associated with an account have to be confirmed after one has registered the account for any email related functions (e.g. passphase recovery) to work. It is entirely possible for you to have registered the account and not confirmed the email address. If so, the only possibility for you would be to register a new account save you recalling the passphase. If that other account has no edit history, you may be ask for usurp. Of course, it can simply be the case that someone else has beaten you to it. KTC 12:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Email addresses are not necessary for an account, although once confirmed they do make certain things a lot easier (like password recovery). If you go to Special:Listusers and search for your username, does it come up? If so, click on the username, then on the page it brings up look at the box labelled "toolbox" on the left of the screen and click on "User contributions" to see if the account has any, or if it can be usurped. Confusing Manifestation 22:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Referral pages from off-wiki?

My userpage suddenly got a swath of anon vandalizations. Is there an easy way to find out the referral links to my userpage from off-wiki? THF 09:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I vaguely recall that AltaVista has a search option to find Web pages that link to a given URL, and Google Search does not. If I recall correctly. --Teratornis 22:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Google search does - in Advanced Search, under Page-Specific Search, "Find pages that link to the page". — PhilHibbs | talk 14:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I stand corrected, then. Thanks for the tip. --Teratornis 17:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing log entries of edits to user page

Woaw, long title. Anyway, is it possible to remove a couple of entries in the log of edits of my userpage? thanks. Stormtalon 09:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC) 11:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

See Oversight. THF 11:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Note: That doesn't exactly remove the entries. It simply hides them (from non-oversights). x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.Stormtalon 06:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous spammer doing his best to ensure spam is kept on the Prince2 page

The Prince2 article on Wikipedia relates to a popular project management technique. There are a lot of training providers that provide Prince2 training and many of them would love the Prince2 page to link to their website. For this reason spammers have added many such spammy external links to the page. There has been discussion on the talk page about removing them but there is an anonymous user who consistently argues for the retention of spam and reverts changes whenever someone tries to take the spam links away. (Most recently he did it to me yesterday.) I am trying to be as consensual as can be and I have put the page out to RFC but the only person (apart from me) responding is an anonymous user (most probably the Anonymous user) who is once again arguing for the retention of the spam links. Everyone who has had an interest in the page has pretty much given up against this guy but I am determined not to let him beat me. What do you suggest as a course of action to ensure that the spam can be removed in a democratic and consensual way? Is there any way in which anonymous users can be blocked from editing the main Prince2 page or its talk page? Please help - this is taking up far too much of my time already! Wikikob 12:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Contrary to these comments by Wikikob there are clearly a number of contributors supporting retention of those links, such as Stevo, PRINCEAndy and others. Accusing someone of spamming simply because they support retention is not acceptable. This applies whether the links stay or go.

Statements like "I am determined not to let him beat me" are of concern as they illustrate a mission other than to contribute to the quality of the page. The (short) edit history of Wikikob comprises almost entirely of deletions and no content input. This is not wrong in itself, but it is not usual for someone to engage in such a determined campaign with such a background. —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:30, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Anonymous editing can be blocked by requesting the page be protected. Note that this is a temporary solution, and will only be approved if it is determined to be repeated, constant vandalism. If that's not the case, you need to go through dispute resolution to help get a common understanding of what should be in the article. -- Kesh 14:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate that a short history of the article does not show many contributions from me but I was the person who completely rewrote the article about a year ago. Before that it was little more than a stub. You can see my rewrite at http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=PRINCE2&diff=76550985&oldid=74365683. It is true that Stevo voted for keeping the links but PRINCE2Andy runs the Prince2 training and consultancy firm OutPerform. He had a vested interest in keeping the links because one of them was to his site. Prince2Andy is quite a reasonable guy (I've met him) and he's not re-inserted the link to his site and has withdrawn from discussion on the page. All the other comments supporting the keeping of links are anonymous and I truley believe they are the work of one person. I appreciate the need for consensus but at the end of the day spam is spam no matter how many people say it isn't! Please check out the links yourself. A good example is the one to the www.spoce.com Prince2 training site. Kesh, thanks for the suggestion re DR. I have started the process (I think - I'm not the most clued up wikipedian there is) by putting an RFC on the page. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, anonymous users are able to contribute. Wikikob 14:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As you can see Kesh, there is no vandalism there. There are a lot of false allegations from Wikikob which is not appropriate behavior on Wikipedia.

Contrary to Wikikob's first comments, we have an about turn, as he now concedes that others support retention, after all. However, he now tries to discredit them!

His claim that all anonymous contributors are the same person I take offense to, as I stated already that my first contribution came earlier today. He is indirectly calling me a liar, which in different circumstances would be libelous. Again, this is not appropriate behavior on Wikipedia.

For the article, the majority of contributors still support inclusion of those links. Until that changes, or until consensus emerges on specific links, he should not try to impose his own opinion on everyone else by deleting unilaterally. This should be the case even though he is "determined not to let HIM beat me", whoever "him" actually is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.110.218.226 (talk) 16:22, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Number of views for a given article

Hello, is there a way to know the number of times a given article has been viewed ? Thanks to Wikipedia:Statistics I have found some ways to:

• know the number of times an article was edited
• know the number of times per day the whole Wikipedia is viewed (thanks, Alexa)
• know the most popular articles, by number of views
• and some other interesting stuff

but I would like to know the number of views for a given article, by curiosity to have a guess about its popularity. Is it possible in some way ? SyG 15:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This question comes up occasionally on the Help desk. --Teratornis 15:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the disturbance, and thanks for the answer! SyG 17:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome, and your question exhibited suitable decorum and was hardly disturbing (as anyone familiar with technical support would expect, some people find their way to the Help desk while experiencing anger at whatever problem they are having, and some of them are generous enough to share their anger with the unpaid volunteers who want to help them). As you can see from the search link I gave, lots of people have had the same question about hit counters, which suggests we have an ergonomic shortcoming here (basically, that means if lots of people have to ask the same question, the system should become better so they don't have to ask). Which causes me to think of a possible feature request here - since many smaller MediaWiki wikis leave the hit counters enabled by default (that is, they do not set the $wgDisableCounters variable in LocalSettings.php), the footer space normally allocated to the hit counter could just as well be used for a link to a page explaining why the counter isn't available, when it isn't (such as: Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#Can I add a page hit counter to a Wikipedia page?). This would be in keeping with the Grayed out principle in GUI design - when you disable a normally visible feature, it's better to leave some sort of placeholder to indicate that the feature is disabled, rather than just make it disappear altogether. --Teratornis 00:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Help repopulating categories from WP:DRV of WP:CFD

I have been trying to get the categories and subcategories repopulated here: Category talk:Films by shooting location. I need someone to tell me who to contact to find out who ran the bot.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Kbdank71. A look at an edit history found [4] and then [5]. PrimeHunter 17:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

What time is it?

I am in the United States in the Eastern Time Zone. This computer says it is 11:41 AM. Yet the last edit was made at 15:25, which is 3:25 PM.Vchimpanzee 15:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It's Coordinated Universal Time. :) --Moonriddengirl 15:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. So I can't fix it like on another web site I go to?Vchimpanzee 15:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, you have some power over it, at least as regards you. At the top of the page under "my preferences" you'll find a tab that reads "date and time." Under "time zone," you do have the ability to offset your preferences, which will change how times read for you under "recent changes" and on "your watchlist." Comments use UTC for standardization purposes. --Moonriddengirl 16:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I guess I'll just have to try and remember, then.Vchimpanzee 16:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

asking questions of the Humanities

How do I send a question? Here is what I wrote earlier, but found no way to send it:

SUBJECT/HEADLINE: ECCLESIASTICAL CUSTOMS, ENGLAND

Can you describe for me the history and the mechanics of "a living" in 19th-c. England, as alluded to in novels by George Eliot, Jane Austen, and others? I surmise that a "living" is a sort of endowment established at a given church for the support and salary of the rector, and I take it to be a rural or provincial custom. But how is it established, and who administers it?

One phrase that I have repeatedly encountered is "The living was in his gift." How does it come to be in anyone's gift?

Thank you for your help.

209.247.23.5 16:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Anne Lunt, Temple, NH -- [[email redacted to prevent abuse by spammers etc..]]

By posting your question here, you have in fact already "sent" it to where you want it to go, however, this desk is for questions pertaining directly to the inner workings of wikipedia itself, your question is better suited for the reference desk, which is where I will move your question to. --69.118.235.97 11:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Uploading a logo

I've been trying unsuccessfully to upload and tag the logo for the U.S. Ski Team for applications on the U.S. Ski Team and U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association page. What would be the proper tagging for this logo? I have obtained permission from the U.S. Ski Team to use it?

Freeride911 18:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

To confirm that permission has been granted from the owner of the copyright, you need to follow the instructions here. For the time being, you may upload it with a fair use rationale using the {{Non-free logo}} tag. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Autolinking facility?

I'm under the impression that Wikipedia uses an autolinking facility of some sort -- one that generates links to existing pages if the user doesn't do it themselves. I've been looking around for several days. I've reviewed the Special:Version page. Can someone tell me if Wikipedia uses an automatic generator, what the extension name is (if there is one) and where I can get the same functionality? Thanks. --Vjg 18:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, there isn't an automated process for generating internal links. The magical appearance of internal links is due to an army of hardworking editors (sometimes affectionately described as wikignomes) who keep an eye on Special:Newpages. They look for articles that are missing internal links, that aren't categorized, or that don't quite line up with the manual of style in myriad small ways—and they fix things. You too are welcome to do this.

Unfortunately, creating an automated tool to add wikilinks to articles would be quite difficult. Deciding when, where, and how often to link words or terms in articles is more art than science, and a script is unlikely to do it quite right. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 18:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll go ahead and give the AutoLink extension a try and see if it holds up in our environment. I thought maybe there was a better facility in place here. I know it's a daunting task... it's just that in my implementation environment, I think it will be helpful for our users if even a basic facility is available. --Vjg 18:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

help me now

i need to get a copy of the preamble in spanish for a friend but it only shows two other languages so i need help please —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.106.243.151 (talk) 19:02, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

You can find the Spanish version of the article here. Sorry, I'll go add the language links now. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hide Expand Feature

Is it possible to use a hide/expand feature in wikipedia eg "+" "-" in order to expand content under a header? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 156.77.108.70 (talk) 19:12, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

This effect can be achieved using {{Collapsible option}}. You can look at some of these pages to see how it works. --Cherry blossom tree 20:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Searching restricted to Categories is not possible

I think it should be possible to search restricted to categories. This is especially important in the "articles for creation" category. If you want to add a new article wouldn't it be nice if you can do a search about past submissions that failed? I had to use google to do it like this:

mysearchterm "articles for creation" site:wikipedia.org —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.53.95.173 (talk) 19:59, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

You can change your preferences ("My Preferences") to do this, but you have to be a logged-in user to use that facility. Once you've created a user id and logged in, go to "My preferences" -> "Search", and uncheck everything but "Category". Then when you're through searching you can reset your preferences, if you so desire. Corvus cornix 23:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This is rather complicated. There should be a simpler way to do it without requiring registration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.108.241 (talk) 19:35, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Advertisement Postings

Why does Thompson & Knight's page have a "this article or section is written like an advertisement" posting at the top of the page? Similarly listed law firms do not have this heading. Thank you. 65.70.162.129 20:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This is someone's opinion. Try not to have a fighting attitude or a "sue me" attitude. Try to rewrite the article in a neutral, non-advertising-like fashion. Haveaquestion 20:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It is "someone's opinion" because the article is full of peacock language, self-contragulatory phrasing, etc. that is far from neutral point of view: "is a dynamic firm"; "is one of the world’s premier energy firms"; "prides itself on the depth of its experience" etc. In short, it reads not like a neutral article but like an advertizement and the language used is very close to that appearing on its website and its Martindale-Hubble profile page, so there may be copyright issues involved (though sometimes this is a chicken and egg issue that's difficult to analyze when an article is not newly minted).--Fuhghettaboutit 23:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I just found my new, favorite template - template:peacock. Thanks! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Windows right click funcion for Wikipedia?

This site is so useful... Sometimes I come across a work or name I'm not familiar with and I copy it, got to my browser, go to Wikipedia and search for it…

It would be great if I could highlight the word, right click and select “Search in Wikipedia” and it would open a new window (or better a new tab) with the search results.

Is there anything like that?

Thanks, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beachbum504 (talk • contribs) 22:11, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I actually have something like this using the google toolbar, you highlight a word and click the wikipedia link in the toolbar and it searches it for you, it's very handy! See Google Toolbar for more info! (Works in Internet Explorer and Firefox on Windows, Linux and Mac) Hope this helps. Andy^reply 22:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Also you can search Wiktionary for word definitions, and sometimes Google Search delivers with its "define:" option. Such as:

• Google:define:Wikipedia

If you are reading an article on Wikipedia and it contains jargon terms with no links on them, please add suitable links when you find other articles that define those terms, and help us Build the web. Unlike almost everything else you have to endure in the world, on Wikipedia you can actually fix whatever is wrong. --Teratornis 00:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The highlight word/right click search with Google toolbar installed gives the option of searchgin the term in Google or a suggested popular search. Google toolbar --> Options --> Features -- > Search box settings -->Suggest popular searches. Does anyone know how to make Wikipedia a "popular search" for Google toolbar? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• OK, I figured it out. Go to toolbar. For "Most Popular Buttons" #3 Wikipedia, click "Add". Now, when you highlight a word and right click, chose "Send to" then select "Wikipedia". There is your right click Wikipedia search! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding an Entry -- Guaifenex

I have been looking up information about all the medications i take on Wiki today. And, i came across one thats not listed. Guaifenex, also known as: Banex,Duratex,Phenylfenesin i have a link to a Description on Drugs.com http://www.drugs.com/guaifenex.html But i was hoping for a more indepth description and History here on Wiki. i'm not sure how to suggest an Entry. and i really don't know how to Create One. Thank You for your Help, Time, and Support. --ThunderBoyThunderBoyDavid 23:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Never Mind... i think this Entry covers it.. sort of.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaifenesin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThunderBoyDavid (talk • contribs) 23:37, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Is there a correct order for external links?

When a new external link is added to an established article, are there any guidelines about where it should be added. A new link was added just added as the second in a list of about 10 links. I thought I read somewhere that new links should be added at the end of the list, but I can't find any information about this subject. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moon Rising (talk • contribs) 23:24, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I don't know, but a good place to look is the Editor's index, which has this entry:

• External links: see Sources, URLs

You might see what you can find in those entries, if you hadn't already checked them. Between the two entries, they list a lot of links to guideline pages etc., so if you can't find the answer there, the answer may not exist yet. (For every issue, there had to be some time before any suitable guideline existed, and then somebody must have decided to write a guideline, and other people must have collaboratively banged their way to consensus - there are undoubtedly still more issues that need guidelines, but I have no idea whether your current issue is one of them.) You could also try this search of the Help desk archive, but I didn't see anything promising on the first page of search results. You might have to look at more results or try other search keywords. The Help desk archives cover a lot of issues. --Teratornis 03:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

You might want to compare the requirements of external link to Fellowship_of_Friends#External_links to get an idea of how to arrange the entries. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Coordinators

Hello there. I have a question regarding WikiProject Coordinators. I'm curious if there is a policy allowing or disallowing WikiProjects to have Coordinators. Preferebly something besides WP:BURO. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I dont think theres any policy against it, but I dont like it. i ^said 23:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Check this out. It's been going on for a while. Seems to bring to mind WP:OWN. However, here is another one, so it seems somewhat popular. This one is no longer active. There are a few more listed on this page and it also list Founders(!). According to this post, the Project Guide specific mentioned project coordinators in November 2006. This link seems to be the first post on the topic. However, it was quickly dismissed. Depending on where you want to take it, you can list one of the coordinator pages at MfD or RfC to get better input. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Removal of quote

I've been working on an article on a well-known biographer, Meryle Secrest, and used a quote about the biographer's trade -- but the webmaster removed it immediately. I don't know why -- I cited the source and it was an apt quote from her. I see other authors' pages with quotes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaneA (talk • contribs) 23:45, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I've made this its own section and removed duplicated posts. i ^said 23:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

August 24

Deleting Wikipedia search history

How does one delete a search history on Wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.59.83.201 (talk) 01:14, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Would you provide a link to an example search history on Wikipedia? Thanks. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:58, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

What browser do you use? ---CWY2190^TC 02:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

This question comes up every few weeks on the Help desk. Try this Google search on the Help desk archive for previous answers. --Teratornis 03:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Internet Explorer and I think Opera: Double-click the search box, move your cursor over the first entry, and hold down delete until the box disappears. Firefox is the same, but you shift-delete. x42bn6 Talk Mess 10:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

family tree

please help me find the way into the family tree 'new zealand' thank you . kay smart121.222.135.61 01:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by family tree 'new zealand'. We have a lot of articles about New Zealand in Category:New Zealand, and Portal:New Zealand may be of interest. PrimeHunter 02:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Dunnett Classic Drums deletion

"Maxim: decided to delete this contribution. 21:00, 23 August 2007 Maxim (Talk | contribs) deleted "Dunnett Classic Drums" (Speedy deleted per (CSD g11), was blatant advertising, used only to promote someone or something.) When talking about or describing a company, it's founder and it's history, you are of course, "promoting" it in the sense that you are talking about it. By deleting on these grounds is akin to saying the discussion of Hitler or McDonald's restaurants is blatant advertising or promotion of someone or something. The irony is that the basic template for this contribution was taken directly from other companies on Wiki who have very similar content. Nothing that was in the piece was embellished - it was stated as fact and those facts were accurate. I guess logic never entered Maxim et al's collective minds. Maybe someone can explain. Here then, are other examples of what Maxim defines as "blatant advertising, used only to promote someone or something." Drum Workshop, Ludwig drums, Tama drums, Pearl drums, and Gretsch Drums. -- Karman Bergquist (talk · contribs · logs) 02:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The "he's doing it, so why can't I do it too?" argument is not a valid argument against deletion. You can request a deletion review, but it is your responsibility to explain why the company is notable. Just existing as a company doesn't make it notable. I tried to check the website myself to see if there any notability to the company, but all I got was a big nasty white box and a note telling me to install Flash (note: Flash doesn't exist for 64-bit systems). So, as far as I can tell, the company is so non-notable that they can't even hire a web designer who can provide alternative information for non-flash web browsers. -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

For "he's doing it, so why can't I do it too?", see WP:WAX. A Wikipedia article on Dunnett Classic Drums should be created out of reliable source information that is independent of Dunnett Classic Drums. Google news doesn't seem to bring up much to use in such a Wikipedia article. Have newspapers or books covered the history of Dunnett Classic Drums? If so, that material can be used in the Dunnett Classic Drums article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Fonts

Is there a page that lists which fonts can be used on wikipedia (as in sigs and user space pages)? Lara♥Love 03:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

You can use pretty much any font you want for personal stuff, however, understand that not all users will have BigFancyFont.ttf on their computer, and it may render incorrectly. You can list many fonts in the order that you want the browser to try, for example, <span style="font-family: Zapfino, 'Brush Script MT', cursive">Example</span>, will render the text in Zapfino if it is available. If not it will then try to use Brush Script MT, and then the computer's default cursive font. As for signatures, the regular guidelines for signatures apply, i.e. that it not be too obtrusive.--Max Talk (+) 06:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I discussed this recently with another user. He was using a font that I believe comes with the latest version of MS Office. It is a small font, so he made it twice normal size to make it appear to show up the same size as the rest of the text on the page. The result is that if you didn't have the font installed, you got regular text at double size. So, feel free to use whatever font you like (you may be the only person who sees it). Just avoid resizing the text to make it look pretty to you because it may look terrible to others. -- Kainaw^(what?) 12:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies. :) Lara♥Love 13:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

How can i stop my article from being vandalised and edited?

I wish to inquire infomation on how i can prevent my article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unkysam) From being vandalised and edited. All infomation provided was summarised by the public and agreed on a mass majority and i do not wish for it to be vandalised and edited by other users.

Please get back to me at [email address removed] and please send any help/advice/ or instructions on how i could go about doing so, if im not doing it correctly already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unkysam (talk • contribs) 04:27, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

You cannot restrict what happens to articles you create. Sorry. This is GFDL, anyone and everyone can edit it. As for stopping vandalism, if only we could :) i ^said 04:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

How to Create a Personal Sandbox?

How do I make my own personal sandbox, a subpage of my own personal page? I found the article describing how, but it I feel completely illiterate when I look at it--it might as well be written in hieroglyphics. Can you describe this to me like I'm a very smart four year old, please? I'm sure this is also detailed somewhere else on the website, but I also am having a hard time searching--not sure where to go or what to search for or how to know exactly when I've found it... The tutorial of the site is just as confusing to me, it seems. Thanks in advance! -- Beseechedspark 04:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• Click on User:Beseechedspark/Sandbox, add some text, and save. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

  Sorry, I mean kic on User:Beseechedspark/Sandbox, abb some text, uh, 'n sabe. ;) -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Sir, you can create a subpage, and title it sandbox. You can look at mine if you'd like: User:N734LQ/Sandbox —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 10:20, August 24, 2007 (UTC).

Watchlists

What is the function of a watchlist? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 05:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

It lets users keep track of any changes to articles that may interest them, such as articles they created or articles from a topic they like. (See Help:Watching pages). ---CWY2190^TC 06:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

COI?

Is it a conflict of interest to use photos of myself or someone I know to illustrate an article about hair color? Someone mentioned that it was, and I'm not sure, but if it is I won't bother; the article in question had a debate on the talk page about how the current photo was really bad, so I replaced it with an image of myself (I put it on the talk page, waited a few days, then replaced) and they said it was a conflict of interest (they also pointed out why it's not suitable anyway, but I wanted to be sure before I find another picture of myself). Kuronue | Talk 06:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

No, WP:COI is about editing articles about yourself or your organization. Using a picture of yourself as an illustration is fine, and hardly the sort of self promotion the COI guidelines talk about. henrik•talk 09:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

No, secondary self promotion is fine so long as the primary effect is improvement of the article. If you replace an existing image, a main requirement is that the new image be better than the replaced image. An article such as Auburn (color) can have at least two images since there are a variety of Auburn hair colors. You might consider using a gallery at the bottom of the article, e.g.:

• 
  Caption1
• 
  Caption2

-- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

indian constitution is not fair

need for debate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.144.88.70 (talk) 06:56, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Wikipedia is the place for Indian contsitutional debate. Kevin 10:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Subpage

I would like to know how to create a subpage for my user page, if anyone could help, that would be great!

--Sendura 07:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Type User:Sendura/Pagename (where Pagename is the name of the desired subpage) in the search box, and press enter - you will get to User:Sendura/Pagename which you can edit to create the page. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 07:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Let me help you with that! It's as easy as clicking. User:Sendura/Subpage. Click that, and go to town. To create another one, just type, on your user page, User:Sendura/title of page, click it, and enjoy. Any questions, please feel free to post a note on my tlak. Have a nice day!N734LQ 10:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Geomite

A method of biomineral fertilization which provides the plant with insoluble volcanic base material and a spectrum of bacteria and fungi in addition to those already inhabiting the soil. It relies on the production of chemical exudates by the plant, which are released into soil from the roots and provide selective nutrition favouring the growth and activation of bacteria and fungi which then breakdown insoluble minerals for absorption by the plant.

The method is 'organic' in that no soluble chemicals are applied - the plant determines it's own nutrition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.59.123 (talk) 09:28, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Is there a question here? Kevin 10:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps they want someone to create an article on biomineral fertilization?--69.118.235.97 11:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

If that is the case, then submit the info at Articles for creation. Kevin 12:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Is Biomineralisation what you are looking for? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

mathematics

square —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.198.171 (talk) 09:58, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

If you have a question regarding mathematics, please use our Mathematics Reference Desk. Please also give more detail, as we can't tell what you are asking. Raven4x4x 10:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, when adding information to articles such as you did to Wheat weevil, please be aware of our sourcing policy--69.118.235.97 11:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

downloading songs

i am a new user with user id deeptinair2007 and i would like to down load songs from your site i was trying the same but they are giving me response that my id is incorrect pls help out —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deeptinair2007 (talk • contribs) 11:14, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

I think the problem you're running into is that wikipedia != iTunes (: We're an online encyclopedia, the only music we host on our servers is 2 or 3 second clips usually used to illustrate a song in a way that is compliant with our fair use doctrine. --69.118.235.97 11:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

If the problem is the free .ogg (Ogg Vorbis) file format, you might want to check out VLC media player. I personally recommend it for playing almost any audio or video format. Nihiltres^(t.l) 11:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to appeal against a speedy deletion?

Hi, I am a London based music writer, last night I started a project to catalogue many of the bands active on the revitalised London hard rock scene on wikipedia, but my first entry was deleted this morning. 08:10, 24 August 2007 SchuminWeb (Talk | contribs) deleted "Puredecay" (Speedy deleted per (CSD a7), was an article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble that didn't assert the importance or significance of the subject.. using TW)

My problem is with the abiguity of the line "didn't assert the importance or significance of the subject.."

Significance to whom?

To somebody with an interest in underground music like myself, the articles I have planned would be quite significant.

To somebody not interested in the underground rock scene in london then there would be minimal significance I agree.

I also noticed that when i began searching, quite a few bands that I would have been including were already present with similar or considerably smaller and unreferenced articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neonkick (talk • contribs) 12:00, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

-RB

You should talk to SchuminWeb first, and if you then want to take it further, you need to go to deletion review. Kevin 12:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, you'll wish to review the notability for music guidelines. There are some specific things that are included to verify a band's notability there you may find of assistance. Cheers, ^Ariel♥Gold 12:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. If the bands already have an article here on Wikipedia, you may want to consider simply adding to the existing article, rather than attempt to create a comprehensive "catalog". ^Ariel♥Gold 12:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the responses -neonkick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neonkick (talk • contribs) 12:33, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

You may benefit from reading: WP:WWMPD#If all else fails, try another wiki. There are lots of other wikis catering to special interests such as (quite possibly) underground music, and typically these specialist wikis are primarily interested in adding content in their topic areas. Wikipedia is the best-known wiki, but it is an encyclopedia, and does not intend to serve as a general-purpose information appliance. Many new users form hasty generalizations about Wikipedia that turn out to be invalid. (Wikipedia's failure to do enough to dispel such hasty generalizations is, in my opinion, an ergonomic shortcoming of its user interface.) If you find another wiki that is friendlier to your interests, be sure its licensing policy does not prevent you from later trying to republish content elsewhere. --Teratornis 16:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Pesky new messages bar

Is there any way to disable that annoying orange "You have new messages" bar? Jeffpw 12:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Just look at your user talk page (User talk:Jeffpw), and it won't appear until you get a new message. Cheers, Tangotango (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

In addition to that, if you're asking if you can disable it completely, so you never see the message bar any time someone posts something to your talk page, I don't think so. See here. ^Ariel♥Gold 12:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Ariel, for that helpful link and reply. Jeffpw 12:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Since Wikipedia is a collaborative project, there's no reason you should want to disable it. Friday (talk) 16:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

You can disable it, but you wouldn't want to. Prodego ^talk 17:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Another option I thought of would be to have your talk page redirect to a subpage of your userpage. From then on out, user would leave messages on subpage and the "You have new messages" bar would not show up. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 19:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

enroll

hai !!! how to get the wikipedia free encyclopedia to my e-mail —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.119.164 (talk) 12:38, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

First, please don't use lolcat speak. Second, you can't. There's too much information here to send all the Wikipedia articles through email. -- Kesh 14:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, we disparage lolcat speak, but we smile on WP:CUTS. See: Wikipedia:Syndication for some RSS feeds and so on that you can subscribe to. Also see:

• User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#News

for some mailing lists and so on. --Teratornis 17:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

GFDL re-use and notability

Someone creates an article. I find it interesting, I mirror it on my web page, and I link back to the Wikipedia page in order to satisfy the accreditation requirements, because the edit history can be found there. Someone then comes along and flags the article as being non-notable, and it is deleted, perhaps correctly and after due discussion. Where do I stand in respect of the GFDL? Am I now in violation, as the author of the information is no longer credited? — PhilHibbs | talk 14:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia administrators can still view the history of a deleted article. I do not know what impact this would have on your rights under the GFDL. However, the folks at the Wayback Machine face exactly the same situation, so I imagine they have figured something out. --Teratornis 17:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

This might not be the best place to get advise about potential violation's of GFDL external to Wikipedia. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Uploading Images from a website

Hello. Am I supposed to place the URL of the website where I found the picture at under "Source Filename"? Thank you. Marlith ^T/C 16:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

No, that's where it's located on you're computer.--Kkrouni/Ккроуни/ΚκρΩυνι 16:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Marlith ^T/C 17:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

How far to go for references/external links when editing a page?

I'm looking at a page in an area that I have a lot of knowledge about. One thing the current page says is that references section are weak. So what constitutes 'enough' references? What constitutes too many?

Thanks for guidance in advance. dave (email removed) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deemery (talk • contribs) 17:12, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:REF and its linked to articles. They should help you. Let us know if you still have any questions. KTC 17:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Use of personal knowledge in an article likely is original research. If the material in article is derived from reliable sources and those reliable sources are used in the article in a way that anyone can verify the material (e.g. footnotes), then that probably would be enough references. Posting a bunch of text from personal knowledge, then listing a host of references at the bottom of the article to essentially state "The posted information is somewhere in these references. Good luck in trying to verifying it." is usually not a good approach. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:58, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are saying — that physicists shouldn't edit physics articles? Historians shouldn't edit history articles? In any case, he's not saying he's going to edit the article content, just to add references to confirm existing content. — PhilHibbs | talk 10:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Did I do this right?

I uploaded a photo and then received a notice saying it may be deleted because I forgot to include a copyright tag. I am very confused about what that is and how to add one. Can you please look at the photo's page St Boniface Cathedral Facade Aug 2007 and let me know if I did this right? TIA Shaun Lovell 17:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The reason the words Copyright Tag were highlighted in blue is because it is a link to a page that discusses what copyright tags are and how to use them properly. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Your post was incorrect since you posted the text of the license between the brackets. Which of these licenses do you want to use? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I added the desired license. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Hot headed admin

User:Mysdaao is a hot headed, rude admin/editor. He has left a rude messege accusing me of vandalising when I was just testing an edit. Please delete his account, thank you. --Bulb and Vegetable 18:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

There was absolutely nothing hot-headed or rude about his/her message. You should not test on the actual Wikipedia articles. That is what the sandbox is for. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

By your own admission, the images you added to Sheerness really did not fit with that article and they were removed. You added them back into the article and they were again removed. The article Sheerness presently is appearing on the Main Page, which is viewed by 100,000+ people daily. What would you have done different from what Mysdaao did? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

As Kainaw said, there was nothing rude in the message. If you don't know the terminology then perhaps you thought this sounded rude: "If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox." Note that sandbox (software development) is a common serious term and there is nothing condescending about it. I and many other experienced editors have their own sandbox for experimentation. You can also use preview to see how edits will affect an article. PrimeHunter 18:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:AGF only goes so far. This post is clearly a WP:POINT intended to mock Mysdaao's usage of polite language instead of a straightforward vandalism warning. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 21:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The message appears to be {{uw-test1}}, one of the generic user warning messages. --h2g2bob (talk) 22:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

wikiproject creation

How do i create a wikiproject?? I know how to request one, but how do i go about actually creating a wikiproject page that has been requested?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paco8191 (talk • contribs) 18:15, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

See WikiProject Creating and maintaining. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Person in Category Listed by First Name rather than Last

How do I change when someone is listed by their first name, as opposed to their last, like everyone else in the category? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.172.86.197 (talk) 19:00, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Use the "sorting" option on the category tag. For example, pretend we're putting [[Category:Foobar]] on the article for Joe Smith. We want it to list under "S". You would use [[Category:Foobar|Smith, Joe]]. -- Kainaw^(what?) 19:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

There is also a shortcut to help with this. At the head of the list of categories, type {{DEFAULTSORT:Smith, Joe}}. It saves the need to retype the name. --Moonriddengirl 20:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Lists of notable alumni - nothing in the MOS to cover

Should these follow the WP:MOSDAB, with only one wikilink per item? On some articles, such as Texas Christian University#Notable alumni, a single person's entry may include half a dozen or more! --Orange Mike 21:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

how do i make a page.

how do i create a page on something hasnt had an article made about it already? Jevonsp 21:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC).

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Silver Edge 21:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

8-24-07

8-24-07

Dear Sirs,

I am in the process of writing a book and to prove some of my own thoughts I am including the thoughts of others of course giving them full credit for the article. I have 3 to 4 articles copied from Wikipedia especially the one on the Mayan Calendar.

I would like to get your permission to use these article giving you full credit for them. All of the other articles I have put in the book I have received permission to do so.

Would you please tell me what your policy is on doing this? I thank you for any answer you can give me. You may answer by E-Mail or letter.

Sincerly yours,

William C. Glessing 3850 N. Hwy. 89 Apt. 207 Prescott, AZ 86301 [removed email address to protect from spammers] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.92.10.132 (talk) 22:43, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content.--Max Talk (+) 22:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Article in Wikipedia on "How to be a Good Boss"

Hi, I recently got a link in Wikipedia, for an article named "How to be a Good Boss"(or some topic very similar to that), and using that link, I searched and was able to land up that page in Wikipedia. I lost that link. I tried searchng for "How to". "How to be" etc in Wikipedia, but it is not displaying the link to the Article "How to be a Good Boss" - there were also links to "How to be a Good sister" and many reletd topics. Requesting you to let me know the link to the page - "How to be a Good Boss". Thanking you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.2.38.45 (talk) 23:13, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if you're looking for Be a Good Boss at Wiki-how? Does that look like the article you mean? --Moonriddengirl 23:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

That must be it. They also have How to Be a Good Sister. There are many wikis. wikiHow and Wikipedia both use MediaWiki software but are otherwise unrelated websites. PrimeHunter 23:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

stop it

My query here got deleted. Reenstate it now or I will take "further action" (not legal action, so dont go spamming me that *No legal threats* rubbish) --Lan Cafe Whatever 23:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Please stop reporting users here. The help desk is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia, not filing complaints about other editors. Reporting them here will not result in any action against the users you complain about. --Mysdaao ^talk 23:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

replied on this user's talk page -- lucasbfr ^talk 23:58, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

August 25

How to post Article about a nationally acclaimed singer.

Hello, i was wondering how i can post an article about a nationally acclaimed young singer named Labeeb Janood. thank you. Sabahat07 00:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Slightly up on this page there is an excellent response by Silver Edge to the question of how to start a page that should be useful to you. It can be easily read if you follow this wikilink. The most important links for you to pay attention to may be notability requirements for singers and reliable sources. These will help you determine if the singer meets Wikipedia's requirements for conclusion. --Moonriddengirl 00:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

By the way, the response by Silver Edge was made with {{creation}}. PrimeHunter 02:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, it was made with {{subst:creation}} which I dislike for precisely the reason which seems to have played itself out again here: template substitution fails to document itself in wikitext as clearly as template transclusion does. Making our wikitext as self-documenting as possible is vital for allowing Wikipedia to continue defeating Brook's law. And now I shall have to go write an essay about that. --Teratornis 10:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah! I had no idea there was a template for that one. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl 17:24, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Getting BORED!

Hey, when are you going to have that article on Tomoyuki Kōno ready? I'm getting bored here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 00:13, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Hey, when are you going to have that article on Tomoyuki Kōno ready? I'm getting bored here!

Try Tomoyuki Kōno, created three minutes before your post above.. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:01, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

What if policy is not followed?

I recently had an image I uploaded - File:Baldbritney.JPG - speedy deleted by User:Can't_sleep,_clown_will_eat_me, and the procedure for the reason given (i4) was NOT followed.. I not only provided the source of the image, but also a detailed rationale as to why no free use image was available. It took 20 minutes to find the appropriate templates and type up a rationale and I'm NOT in the mood to do that again right now. Not only that, but according to Speedy_deletion#Images_and_media the image should have been tagged as unsourced and then, if no action was taken, could be speedy deleted after seven days. Considering I uploaded the image on August 23, that seems a bit impossible. I see absolutely NO justification for this image having been deleted, since the reason for deleting the image was given as "i4" but the procedure outlined in that category was not even CLOSE to properly followed. I have a feeling the person in question simply didn't like the image, and decided to ignore the policy. Is there anything that can be done about that? I don't see the point in investing time to make sure everything is kosher if someone can just come along and delete it all on a whim, not even following policy, and giving me no opportunity to contest the issue, fix the problem, or even revert the (what I consider to be) vandalism. Xoxixox 01:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The rational you posted was "a particular moment in her career when her public meltdown started. The shaved head was only photographable for one day before all photos began including her in a wig." I'm guessing that you planned to post it at Britney_Spears. Posting such an image in that article likely had prior discussion and consensus. I suggest posting a thread on the Britney Spears talk page to see whether such an image should be included with the article. If there is consensus on that, then contact Can't Sleep and if that does not resolve the matter, post a request at WP:DRV. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately that's the only rationale left visible (and not where the rationale was explained in full, that was a space with limited room used to put a summary), because the talk page was deleted along with the image, but on the talk page for the image (where I posted the may violate fair use template as well) I had posted a template with more than one rationale for fair use. However this is irrelevant to the discussion because it wasn't deleted because of fair use violation, it was deleted because it was unsourced (I4). I will post that on the Britney Spears page, but my biggest issue is that it was deleted because it was supposedly unsourced (when I also included the source on that template in the talk page) and yet the seven days to correct the problem were NOT given. Is it common for admins to ignore policy like that? Xoxixox 01:24, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Making tiny numbers that link to things at the bottom

Hello!! I would like to ask how one makes it so that in an article you have the little text that appears a little bit above the writing and you click it and it zooms to the bottom of the article and gives you the source. I can't seem to figure it out? Thanks in advance!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Backsigns (talk • contribs) 01:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry for not signing! Backsigns 01:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, I thought about it and I think maybe people use <sup> tags and then an anchor to the link? Backsigns 01:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

They use <ref> and </ref> tags. Whatever is placed in the tags is what shows up at the bottom when you click the number. i ^said 01:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :D How do I make it show up at the bottom? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Backsigns (talk • contribs) 01:24, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

You would create a References level two heading, and under it place {{reflist}}. I think you can also do <references />, but I'm not sure, as I've never tested. i ^said 01:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Aha, thank you. Backsigns 01:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

For more about using references, see Wikipedia:Citing sources. PrimeHunter 02:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

And also: WP:FOOT and WP:CITET. And if you really want to be informed, see the links under:

• User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Sou

--Teratornis 17:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

wrong email on username account

how do I update my email details for an account? I have requested a new password to my account before realising that the email address was misspelt. I therefore cannot access my account or talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.147.127 (talk) 05:47, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Thankfully, you can access your userpage and talk page. Put this into the Wikipedia search box-- User:_______, where the blank line is your Username. The talk page is at User_talk:_______.

For the other issue, contact Wikipedia admistration? See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. While that is not exactly the right place, someone higher up might be able to direct you right. Guroadrunner 11:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Jacksonville Jaguars

In your article on the Jacksonville Jaguars you stated that thye are on of three teamd to have never played in the Superbowl or any NFL Championship. That is in not accurate. They did go to the AFC Championship Game in their second year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.234.9.238 (talk) 06:12, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I think that means the Jacksonville Jaguars never played in a league championship. The AFC Championship Game is a conference championship, not a league championship. See History of National Football League Championship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silver Edge (talk • contribs) 06:35, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Dave Ulliott

Dave Ulliott aka Devilfish

You have his age wrong, born Apr 1 1954

Also would it be possible to put a live link to www.devilfishpoker.com (I see you have this for others) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.20.184.251 (talk) 07:16, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Help Me

Dave Ulliott aka DevilFish Was born Apr 1 1954 not 1963

Also would it be possible to put a live link to www.devilfishpoker.com (You have for others)

Paul Dransfield —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.20.184.251 (talk) 07:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. These three sources: [6], [7], [8] indicate that he was born on January 4th, 1954. DH85868993 08:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Regarding a link to www.devilfishpoker.com; I think it is probably inappropriate, since the site seems to be mainly (completely?) an online gaming site, which doesn't provide any information about Dave Ulliott that isn't already present in the article. DH85868993 08:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I've added details of the year of birth conflict to the article's talk page. So hopefully interested/knowledgeable editors will be able to resolve the issue from there. Incidentally, I think the "April 1" / "January 4" conflict is probably the old American vs UK date format thing. DH85868993 15:01, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Removal of existing sort keys when adding DEFAULTSORT

When adding the DEFAULTSORT magic word to an article, is it acceptable to leave existing sort keys which match the new default. e.g. is it OK to change:

[[Category:Cat1|Lastname, Firstname]]

[[Category:Cat2|Lastname, Firstname]]

to:

{{DEFAULTSORT:Lastname, Firstname}}

[[Category:Cat1|Lastname, Firstname]]

[[Category:Cat2|Lastname, Firstname]]

[[Category:Cat3]]

or should I change it to:

{{DEFAULTSORT:Lastname, Firstname}}

[[Category:Cat1]]

[[Category:Cat2]]

[[Category:Cat3]]

I believe both options are functionally equivalent, I'm just wondering which one is considered preferable. Thanks. DH85868993 09:01, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Both are functionally equivalent. I generally go with the last example since, I think, this makes it clearer to a new editor just what's going on. The question of "why does the third category not need their name but the first two do?" won't enter their mind. Dismas|^(talk) 09:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Post dates?

Would you please make it so that each entry is dated? It's frustrating to read about some topic, yet not know when it may have been posted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.195.105 (talk) 09:49, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

You can find the article's creation date by going to the history tab and clicking Oldest. The last edit is at the bottom of the page. But to put the article creation date on the article itself is an aesthetic thing. Where would it go? What purpose does it have to know when an article was created? x42bn6 Talk Mess 09:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a wiki and the text of an article and even of a sentence is often changed by different editors. Most articles were not written on one day. Many have edits on hundreds of days. Click the history tab to see the article history which may be quite long. PrimeHunter 12:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

If you want to know who edited a particular sentence and when, you are asking for something called a "blame" feature in a revision control system. See this search on the Help desk archive for previous discussion of this issue. --Teratornis 17:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Irish POV

Can anybody help me find a discussion on wikipedia from about two years ago. I am ‘’’not’’’ looking for anything in the last 18 months. An editor propounded that there was an editor who was putting forward his POV which was Irish republican. Kittybrewster (talk) 10:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

There was this (exactly!) 2 years ago (apologies for digging this up, because this user is still active). Can't really find anything else. Again, apologies. x42bn6 Talk Mess 10:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

That is the exact one. Well done and thank you. - Kittybrewster (talk) 13:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Could someone help me with reference formatting for DiGard Motorsports

I've been adding references, but some are kind of untidy. See DiGard_Motorsports#References to see what I'm talking about. Anyone willing to lend a hand? I especially am unsure what to do with things I found off of Google Books.

Also, does References go above or below External Links?

Guroadrunner 11:24, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Where was that robot that finds appropriately-licensed images from Flickr ?

I used it once, so I know there is some tool out there that lets people search Flickr for appropriate copyleft images. Where might I find it?

Guroadrunner 11:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't know about a robot, but if you, say, want to find Creative Commons images of something, you can go to Flickr's advanced search page, and at the bottom there is an option to only show CC material. You can also check out their CC page.--Max Talk (+) 22:42, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

This was helpful. Thanks! Guroadrunner 16:10, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Question about double entering a heading.

I submitted a biography on the American Artist, William Houghton Sprague Pearce. He is also known as W.H.S. Pearce, is there a way to have both search entries linked to the same page? thanks Carolie McLaughlin [email address removed to avoid the risk of spamming] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mclabc (talk • contribs) 12:42, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I submitted a biography on William Houghtone Sprague Pearce, an American Artist. He is also known as W.H.S.Pearce. How can I get both as a search heading? thanks Carolie Mclaughlin [email address removed to avoid the risk of spamming] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mclabc (talk • contribs) 12:47, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Whatever the article is named will come up in searches for both names--Pheonix15 (talk) 13:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

GeeJo has just created W.H.S. Pearce as a redirect to William Houghton Sprague Pearce. This means that if someone types "W.H.S. Pearce" in the Search box, they will be taken to the William Houghton Sprague Pearce article. (Apologies if I've stolen your thunder, GeeJo). DH85868993 14:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Sig help

Could someone tell me how to stop my sig turning purple to people who have visited my user or talk page--Pheonix15 (talk) 12:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Have them restart their browser. The effect you're describing is built into the browser as a way to notify the user that they've visited a particular page already. You can't "stop" it without having editors change the behavior of their browser, which is overkill for something as trivial as a signature. Shadow1 (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Your sig doesn't go ppurple and I've visited your page--Pheonix15 (talk) 18:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey there Phoenix. The reason it happens is because of the way you created you signature. I recreated your sig for you and here is the code, <font face="Eras Demi ITC">[[User:Pheonix15|<font color="LightSkyBlue">Pheonix15</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Pheonix15|<font color="LightSkyBlue">talk</font>]])</small></font> which will show up like this Pheonix15 (talk). That should solve the problem. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 21:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Editing existing images

I am fairly new to Wikipedia and would like to contribute, so I thought it might be fairly easy to do some simple edits. I am very skilled at image editing (for a layperson), and I wanted to crop the borders off an existing image. However, I'm encountering two separate problems with doing this.

1. When I try to edit with an external program, my browser automatically opens my Dreamweaver program--but I'd rather use my PaintShop Pro program. No help there.
2. When I save the existing image to my computer, edit it with PSP, and try to upload the edit of the photo, I am then expected to provide all new licensing information. I am not the creator of the image; I only cropped a border off the image. There doesn't seem to be a way around giving it a whole new GNU (pardon the pun), which would be erroneous, or no license. In either case, I'd be begging to have it removed.

Any suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Headzred (talk • contribs) 13:15, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've seen many people upload edited images thier own work. I don't think your supposed to do that but if the pre edit version was already on Wikipedia nobody complains--Pheonix15 (talk) 13:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry I didn't sign earlier. Newbie error. I will not add a GNU to an edit of someone else's picture. I'd rather not contribute than contribute falsely. Wiki is terrific, but it should not be this hard to help out.

Also, I see that the comment below doesn't belong here. What's the accepted method for doing something about that?Headzred 13:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

You can separate the two questions by adding a new section heading (text surrounded by "==") above the new question, as has been done below. DH85868993 13:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Finding people living elsewhere in the world

how can I find people living in other country I got only his complete name no add..can u help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellamor 64 (talk • contribs) 13:24, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid that if the person isn't notable, you will not find them here because wikipedia is not a phone book. I don't know of any websites that will help you with your search. Sorry :( -- AngelOfSadness talk 13:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

It would help if you said what country he might be in. - Kittybrewster (talk) 13:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

New interface on image description pages

So someone decided to restructure the automatic "File history" section of the image description pages. Could an admin please tell me if there is still a delete button next to the revisions when they go to one of these pages? Otherwise I need to go change some instructions ... --Pekaje 14:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't find the delete or revert buttons that used to be there anymore. The revert link was changed from 'rev' to 'revert' as part of the same changes or just before them, though, which would be a bit strange if they were going to be deleted; maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, or maybe they've been left off by mistake? --ais523 16:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC) (an admin)

They seem to have reappeared again now. --ais523 16:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've noticed it change a couple of times already today. Maybe they should do the testing on the test wiki first :-)

So what exactly is the text on the delete revision link? It doesn't show up for non-admins any more, and the instructions I was talking about is (obviously) for admins. --Pekaje 16:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Link to a specific policy I cannot find

Hi,

I remember reading a policy on wikipedia regarding this situation:

Article A has something that shouldn't be there but is present in 10 other articles. Editor X removes it but Editor Y adds it back arguing that since 10 other articles have it present, why should only Article A have it removed.

I cannot find a link to this and I wish to see this policy. I know I've read something about this before. Hyperpain2000 14:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not a policy, it's an essay. See WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. utcursch | talk 14:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you are thinking of Wikipedia:Inclusion_is_not_an_indicator_of_notability? -- Diletante 14:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Werdnabot

My Talk Page is archived by Werdnabot once every 7 days.

However, it is archiving everything into monthly order. A year from now I will have 12 different archive pages.

How can I fix it so that it archives every 7 days into an archive that will stay open for 3 months instead of just a month ?

Tovojolo 16:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The easiest way to do this is to manually set the Target archive page every three months. It's not automated, but I don't believe there's a Werdnabot-compatible ParserSyntax hack for this. Shadow1 (talk) 17:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Why not just a switch on the relevant magic word? The below code should do the trick. To avoid any potential problems with parserfunctions parameters within a parameter to a template, you could put this code in a new subpage and include it in the Werdnabot template parameter. No guarantees, though, as Werdnabot can be a bit odd. I see no immediate reason why it shouldn't work, though. --Pekaje 22:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

{{#switch: {{CURRENTMONTH}}
 | 1 = Q1 | 2 = Q1 | 3 = Q1
 | 4 = Q2 | 5 = Q2 | 6 = Q2
 | 7 = Q3 | 8 = Q3 | 9 = Q3
 | 10 = Q4 | 11 = Q4 | 12 = Q4
 | Unknown
}}

Censorship

i want to access to cloes page by my country server how to brak it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.209.72.148 (talk) 17:00, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions about Wikipedia itself, not a hacker convention. -- Kesh 23:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Bullying by ignorant people

After several attempts to explain and educate, I am taking concerns about bullying by Wikipedia members to other fora for discussion. Many many people have confused criticism of the approaches of doctors of environmental medicine as being a dismissal of sensitivities, of the fact that some people are more affected by chemicals than others. There are centuries of literature, government reports, and statements by human rights commissions about the damages that are caused by bigotry on this subject. There are probably a dozen suicides per day in the United States of persons with undiagnosed CNS reactions.

I am uninterested in a complex dispute resolution process in a community where bigotry and bullying, political interference with information, are celebrated rather than edited out. The last post I made was a quote from the Father of American Psychiatry, and an ignorant editor erased it on the basis of an arbitraryopinion.

The Wikipedia community is contributing to the ongoing killing of persons with undiagnosed sensitivities in health care settings. You have utterly lost my respect, and made it impossible for people who are informed on this topic to see Wikipedia as anything but an instrument of hate literature.

Chris Brown http://ages.ca --email removed-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.106.110.100 (talk) 17:16, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

A quote almost two centuries old is hardly the most reliable source for the mental health effects of Indigo dye. You may want to find a better source for that statement. --Pekaje 17:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

SI?

What is the convention for measurement units, should I always use SI or feet etc., or maybe both? Should I decide based on the habits of the country the article is about, more or less like American English is preferred in NBA and British English is preferred in cricket? Maybe both the "local unit" and the SI one? And where is this all explained I couldnt find it:) -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 17:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The policy is here. :) (And you're right that it depends on the article.) --Moonriddengirl 17:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey, it's nice to see you here... I guess the Wikipedia world is not as big as it looked like at first;) -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 18:01, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Truly, familiar faces do seem to pop up a lot. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Difficulty creating articles

whenever i try and create an article all that happens is my browser downloads a file called index.php and nothing else happens. Please advse me on how to gget around this issue. I have tried with browsers including mozilla firefox, internet explorer and safari and all of them come up with the same result.

(Christopher Charlie Jones 18:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC))

Try clicking my preferences at the top, and then click the "Editing" tab. If there is a check mark at "Use external editor by default" then click it to remove the mark, and click "Save". Does that help? PrimeHunter 18:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Hardware

What is difference between core2 duo and dual core 2 ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonygecg (talk • contribs) 19:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

You might want to try the Wikipedia:Reference desk, (computing section), this page is for help in using and editing wikipedia. Woodym555 23:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

See Intel Core 2 -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

improper licenses on images

I have come across an editor who has uploaded alot of images under what I think are completely incorrect license tags. These are mostly original drawings of fictional characters that are incorrectly labeled as screenshots of TV programs or software. I can't figure out what I am supposed to do, send them to IFD maybe, or WP:CP, or what? -- Diletante 19:44, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll reply at User talk:Diletante. Shalom ^Hello 03:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

deleted entry

Hello, I am a super novice and could use a little guidance. What did I do wrong, please, re: my Delores Gilbeaux entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by THE PROS Black Actors Guide (talk • contribs) 19:56, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Hello. According to the note on your talk page, that article was deleted because it did not establish the notability of the individual. There's a general notability guideline, Wikipedia:Notability, and a number of specific ones, including several for people: Wikipedia:Notability (people), Wikipedia:Notability (pornographic actors). An article needs to specifically state what makes its subject notable enough to include in an encyclopedia. It also needs to offer verification of that through reliable sources. I'm sorry that I can't offer you more specific suggestions, but as the article was deleted I do not know what information it contained. --Moonriddengirl 20:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

religion

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PRINT FACT NOT FICTION, YOUR INFO ON CATHOLICISM IS SO OFF THE MARK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.145 (talk) 20:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia. If you feel the information is incorrect and can provide properly verifiable corrections, please do. Just remember to adhere to the essential Wikipedia tenet of neutrality and, if your changes are disputed, to discuss them on the article's talk page with civility. --Moonriddengirl 20:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding articles

How can I add new postings / articles?

--Almallah 21:59, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Pekaje 22:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Redirect fails to move user to article

There is an article at 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + · · ·. There is also a redirect to it at 1-2+3-4. It contains the following text:

#redirect [[1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + · · ·]]

Yet the page actually redirects to 1 − 2 3 − 4 · · · (notice the lack of plus sign) and that one redirects to itself. The + sign is being wiped from the link in the page, and it redirects wrongly. This must have happened fairly recently... what's going on?

(p.s. Is this the right place to report this?)

-- BrokenBeta [talk · contribs] 23:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The problem appears to affect all redirects with + in the target. I have reported it at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Redirects with + don't work. PrimeHunter 02:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The problem apparently started this month and has now been fixed.[9][10] Thanks for reporting it. PrimeHunter 16:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm having major problems creating a user page.

I'm having major problems creating a user page; the link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KellyLeighC

I know it looks like crap. So far, all I added was one small section and my brain just went blank. I can't create a userpage from scratch. I need a step-by-step guide on what to do. Another user said 'you can borrow any ideas or templates you happen to like' but won't borrowing other templates or ideas be considered piracy and set your page up as an automatic candidate for deletion? I'm not trying to create a homepage, just a stupid userpage. Could someone stick some ideas on my page or my talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KellyLeighC so I could go over them? Thanks.

KellyLeighC 23:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

You might want to have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help, list yourself there and someone will come forward. You could also look at the user pages they have done previously. Hope this helps. Woodym555 23:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind that anything on Wikipedia (aside from certain images) is free to copy and reuse, including the contents of User pages. I wouldn't advise trying to make a userpage that imitates another user's, but borrowing templates and layouts is fine. -- Kesh 23:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Copying text with permission

Hello,

I like to enter a biographical entry and I have permission from the biography owner and the published web site. The entry is about David R. Hughes and his biography is published at http://www.west-point.org/academy/dgrad/Nomination.html . The bots do not allow me to use the entire text. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thetiamat (talk • contribs) 23:20, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

If there is no article on Mr. Hughes, write a new one. Don't copy & paste another, pre-written biography, even if you have permission. Wikipedia is meant to read as an encyclopedia, and most biographies are not written in a neutral manner. What you can do is cite portions of the biography when writing a new Wikipedia article about him (assuming he satisfies our notability guidelines). -- Kesh 23:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Make sure you understand that Wikipedia pages can be used by anyone who abides by the GFDL, so it will end up on other sites, such as answers.com. --h2g2bob (talk) 05:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

helping me

I need chinese speaker to translate please me! this text needs into english urgent

"缀钉二枚四角星花。 三级警督（下图）：缀钉一枚四角星花。" --Liu Wang Ching Chong 23:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Silver Edge 00:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Translation may have the resources you seek. I'm not sure if they'll work as fast as you want, but that's the place to go for help on-wiki.--Chaser - T 00:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Wikipedia:Translators available is a better page if you're looking for someone to translate something that isn't an article on another wiki. Good luck.--Chaser - T 00:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Per babelfish.altavista.com, it says something like "the rivet two four jiao stars are colored. Three levels of police supervise (next chart): Rivet four jiao stars are colored." -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

August 26

editing your page for apartments

hi, i am trying to edit a web page posted on your list of apartments "Alder Ridge Apartments" and I need some help as to where and what i do to edit, as it needs to be updated asap — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.138.190 (talk • contribs)

Just click the "edit this page" at the top of the page. See Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Tutorial for more information. --Silver Edge 00:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia and we don't appear to have any information about Alder Ridge Apartments. If you saw it at another website, for example http://daviswiki.org/Alder_Ridge_Apartments, then the advice here doesn't apply. PrimeHunter 02:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Can someone aaprove or re-edit this article about me which I wrote. My play GODOT ARRIVES is an entry, but I'm not!

Daniel Curzon is the author of Something You Do in the Dark, the first gay protest novel (G.P. Putnam, 1971). It is the story of a gay man's attempt to avenge his entrapment by a Detroit vice squad police officer by murdering him. The book shows a shift away from the self-hating homosexual who is considered to be so horrible by society than anything done to him is justified, to a newer, angrier attitude of justifiable rage at society and its cruelties to gays. Daniel Curzon has also written other novels, including The Misadventures of Tim McPick (original title: Queer Comedy), From Violent Men,

Among the Carnivores, The World Can Break Your Heart, Curzon in Love, 

The Bubble Reputation, or Shakespeare Lives!, and What a Tangled Web. Non-fiction books include The Big Book of In-Your-Face Gay Etiquette and Dropping Names: The Delicious Memoirs of Daniel Curzon.

In the theater, Curzon won the 1999 National New Play Contest for Godot Arrives, and has won many other play contests, such as the Great Platte River Play Contest. His play My Unknown Son was produced off-Broadway at the Circle Rep Lab in 1987 and at the Kaufmann Theatre in 1988, as well as in Los Angeles in 1997. Seven volumes of his Collected Plays have been published by BookSurge (an offshoot of Amazon.com Baker's Plays published his one-act A Fool's Audition. Daniel Curzon is the pen name of Daniel R. Brown, Ph.D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielcurzon (talk • contribs) 01:13, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

You don't need help to create a new article. You can do it yourself by going to the article name and creating the page. Please do ensure that you meet our inclusion guideline for people, WP:BIO. Thanks!--Chaser - T 01:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Chaser's comment is valid. However, some people might prefer that a more knowledgeable Wikipedian create the article. Also, since WP:COI suggests that it is improper to create an article about oneself, it is more appropriate to have someone else do it. I have created the Daniel Curzon article. --Richard 06:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiAdvertisments

Referring to this part of a message on my talk page: "...how can I get WikiAdvertisments?" I'm really not sure. Does anyone know what they are? I've searched, and haven't found anything... the whole Advertisments thing surprised me, because Wikipedia is against advertising. Hm. Puzzled. Thanks in advance for any answers you may have... CattleGirl ^talk 01:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you are thinking of Template:Wikipedia ads, used to advertise on-wiki projects and efforts, not to make money or advertise a company (those are the ads we are against) Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 01:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, right. Thanks :) CattleGirl ^talk 01:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

BABYDOLL GOWN

i'M NEW TO THIS SITE AND i WAS WONDERING IF IT WERE POSSIBLE TO PURCHASE ANY OF THE LINGERIE YOU HAVE POSTED. THERE IS A VERY LOVELY BABYDOLL GOWN THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, IF I CAN'T PURCHASE IT THEN IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIND OUT WHERE IT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO OFFER. THANKS AGAIN.

BINKS827 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Binks827 (talk • contribs) 02:15, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for asking Binks.

Wikipedia tends to be an encyclopedia and not so much a place to sell things or help people find particular items for sale. Sethie 02:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Right. We describe many things and have images of some of them but we don't sell them. If you refer to the images at Babydoll then clicking them shows that the images were made by the editors who uploaded them. If you are really interested then I suppose you could try following the editor links and ask on their discussion page if they know the brand and where it might be for sale. PrimeHunter 02:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is intended for reference, not so much for advertisement. If you do not mind, may I suggest that your question be capitalized only where it is a must. Typing a question in Caps Lock constitutes yelling. Thanks for your co-operation. --Mayfare 03:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Cryptographic Hash String

Hello. When I make my hash string for my user page, how do I know whether other Wikipedians have the same secret message as I? Thanks in advance. --Mayfare 02:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:User committed identity suggests to make use of your committed identity to someone and prove you are the same person who originally controlled the account, give a trusted user the exact secret string you originally entered into the box. -- Jreferee 06:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Cryptographic Hash Function

Hello again. Let's say my secret string is Example. I typed what Template:User committed identity#Usage says on my user page and I replaced hash string (second line) with Example. And I have this:

Committed identity: Example

is  [[hash function 

]] commitment to this user's real-life identity.

What have I done wrong? --Mayfare 14:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How many Wikis' are ther beyond the list of sister projects and is there an overall main home page???

Questions in the subbject/headline.

tofuta —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.65.189 (talk) 03:08, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia has the nine sister projects listed on the Main Page, all in multiple languages. The foundation-level coordination of these wikis is discussed on the meta-wiki. There are hundreds of wikis not sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation; see WP:ALTOUT for examples. Shalom ^Hello 03:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

http://wikiindex.org lists many wikis but I'm sure nobody lists all existing wikis. Anybody can create a wiki without registering it anywhere. PrimeHunter 03:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Further to Shalom, the full list of Wikimedia projects in all languages is listed at meta:Complete list of Wikimedia projects. --h2g2bob (talk) 04:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

What's the "Portion used" mean

Questions in the "Non-free / fair use media rationale" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sum 2101 (talk • contribs) 03:34, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

The portion used is how much of the original file you used. If you cropped the image, or if you are using a small portion of an audio file, then mention it there. --h2g2bob (talk) 04:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Good day

I consider Wikipedia as a major reference in all my researches and seminars,for that I am interested in joining in with you to contribute what ever I could do to enhance the knowledge of the content of your encyclopedia. I am from the middle east particularly from Iraq so whatever you want where I could do somthing please don't hesitate for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salwansam (talk • contribs) 05:32, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Welcome! It is great to have you on board. You might be interested in contacting the editors at Wikipedia:WikiProject Iraq for some ideas on where you can contribute. There also is Wikipedia:WikiProject Arab world. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

If being from Iraq implies that you speak Arabic, you might also see the Arabic Wikipedia. You might, for example, translate articles between the (much larger) English Wikipedia and the Arabic Wikipedia, and add Interlanguage links. For more on translation, see the "Translation:" heading in the Editor's index just below this anchor point:

• WP:EITW#Tra

--Teratornis 15:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Reliable Sources

Hello, I would like to edit a financial statistic of a company in a Wikipedia article. The current figure provided in the Wikipedia article is inaccurate according to the company's website. The current figure provided in the article, however, has a third-party source or reference. Would it be advisable to refrain from editing the figure in the article because it lacks the objectivity of a third-party source? Nevertheless, I do believe that the company has the correct figure. Prof. bongsferd —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 05:47, August 26, 2007 (UTC).

It may depend on the actual financial statistic you plan to modify. If you post the article name and give an indication as to what stats may be off, I can give you a better answer to your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicks

formation & development of three germinal layers in chick embryos —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.7.85.145 (talk) 07:38, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? Astronaut 10:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Forgotten password, no e-mail set

Hello,

I've managed to forget the password for a bot account I own, User:Taxobot. As I didn't specify an e-mail address, I can't reset it that way.

I've put in a request for usurpation, which seems to be the only option available to me - is there a quicker way to have it reset, as I'm quite keen to get cracking today, whilst I've got the time!

Thanks,

Verisimilus T 08:17, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

"12 Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors."

This term in unquantified and causing us trouble on the Eve Online article. Since there are no numbers associated with the rule I suggested we use the most popular site as measured by search engine top site returns, 2 years of continuous operation and most number of edits/contributors/editors of all available Wikis on the subject. For example Wookieepedia dominates as the leading Wiki of the Star Wars fan sites and is directly linked to the Star Wars article. Obviously not every subject which has a fan base will reach the heights of that Wiki. If a subject will only attract several thousands to it's fan's Wiki's does that mean a dedicated site should then be denied a direct link to it's main subject's article on Wikipedia?

Also, I am being accused of having COI when I am just an article contributer on eve-wiki.net not the owner or maintainer nor do I have any financial ties while some of the opposing editors do have financial ties to other paid websites related to Eve Online. I went back through the history of Star Wars article to find the user User:Cbarbry who linked the Wookieepedia wiki at Wikia First linking and he is the father of the site yet that link is maintained so a precedent has been set. Another precedent is that http://eve-wiki.net/ has been externally linked on several articles for many months without incident.

This all would go away with some quantifiable numbers to the "substantial" in item 12 of W:EL. If explicit numbers can not be derived then implicit numbers relating the site in question to all possible competing sites as a benchmark on whether to allow external linkage. If a site is the top search engine choice than that is a benchmark and so is self reported usage statistics. Leaving this unquantified allows the spectre of politics spinning what external wiki's links in articles instead of hard cold performance.
In my opinion this revert war is more about protecting clickthroughs and hidden financial agendas than adhering to Wikipedia W:EL.

See further discussion at Eve Online External Links Discussion Alatari 23:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

For the benefit of anyone trying to decode the above question, the W:EL link is incorrect; the questioner appears to refer to item 12 in WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided. --Teratornis 15:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

As to the actual issue, here are some of my random thoughts, which may or may not help you, and by no means represent any sort of authority:

• Wikipedia does not operate on the basis of "precedents." See: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Similar links in similar articles, by themselves, do not argue for or against the link in question. (A possible exception to this rule would be featured articles, which have been judged by the Wikipedia community to be of the highest quality. You could, arguably, use a featured article as a basis for comparison, because in general, featured articles will be highly compliant with policies and guidelines. But it is better to argue on the basis of the policies and guidelines directly, rather than by analogy with other articles.)

Thankyou, I will look for feature article tags on any of the other MMORPG articles. And what do you know I found a featured article on Halo 2 with an external link to a Wiki at Wikia although I don't understand the importance listing the hosting company. Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• My personal opinion is that Wikipedia does not do nearly enough to promote topic-specific wikis. As evidence, I point to the many articles getting deleted each day from Wikipedia, some fraction of which would be suitable for other wikis. Wikipedia is by far the most-visited and best-known wiki, with the result that Wikipedia attracts many users who try their first wiki edits here. Many of these new wiki users do not seem to know that Wikipedia has very specific requirements for articles, and that other wikis with different requirements exist. To complete the perfect storm of ergonomic failure, it seems that by some quirk of human psychology, the first thing many new users want to do is to create new articles, without realizing how difficult it can be to get a new article here to "stick."
  • Therefore, if I made the rules here, I would include links to topic-specific wikis everywhere I could, the idea being to encourage new wiki users who want to create articles to create them on the wikis most likely to want them. Consider the sheer waste of human effort represented by the several thousand articles Wikipedia deletes per day. Of course, no matter how obvious you make things, there will always be some new users who will get things wrong on the first try, but raising awareness of other wikis can only (in my opinion) help Wikipedia defend its quality standards more efficiently. However, obviously I do not make the rules here (I merely enjoy poking fun at them). The people who do make the rules don't seem to see a problem with suckering thousands of new users into wasting thousands of hours creating new articles, only to have dozens of admins waste even more time deleting them (although a number of people do seem to recognize the problem when someone points it out).

This is the case for 48 of the 148 MMORPG articles on Wikipedia. It appears to be a growing practice for Gaming companies to maintain an Official Wiki as an aid to their helpdesk. If no official site exists (about 40 articles) then a private Wiki is linked externally. (See my data collected on the Talk:EVE Online area) Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I absolutely, wholeheartedly and without reservation agree with your thought on external wiki's being a time saving device. Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• On editing disputes in general: my personal feeling is, why bother? In the time you might spend fighting other people on Wikipedia to make one controversial improvement, you could be making dozens of uncontroversial improvements to other articles. Wikipedia is full of articles that need help, with nobody waiting to fight the helpers. Furthermore, the subject you are talking about is a game. Games are not important. Games are merely entertainments. If a game seems to you like a life or death issue, you may be experiencing game addiction. We live in a world with many real problems, big exciting problems, problems we might actually be able to put some dents in with wiki technology. There is a war going on in Iraq. The world is going to run out of petroleum. Billions of dollars being spent on petroleum are being diverted to support terrorism. Humans may be wrecking the climate. Entire economies need to be redesigned to take advantage of Moore's law. Might wiki technology finally represent a critical mass of information technologies necessary to make telecommuting a more viable option for reducing petroleum waste, by moving information through wires, instead of by dragging millions of office-worker brains back and forth each day inside millions of tons of metal? It's interesting that gamers appear to be farther ahead of the vast majority of corporations in terms of wikifying their workflow.

--Teratornis 16:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

This has been a valuable learning experience for me. As for the game addiction... well who knows but it seems that Wiki is just as alluring and could lead to Wikiaddiction. Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Everett Sherman Hatcher(1988 - 1947)

Can I write about this man who was a vet of Phil-Am war and was a prisoner of war 1941 - 1947 ?Joscher 10:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)joscher (Joshua Hatcher)

(I'm assuming the Date of Birth (1988) is wrong.) Prior to creating an article, it is a good idea to review Wikipedia's copyright policy before adding material. If you wish to include material you read somewhere else, you'll want to summarize, paraphrase, condense, etc., and then feel free to submit it to the article. (See the following: Reliable sources, Cite your sources, Manual of style, Layout guide, First article, Article development and How to edit for assistance.) If after doing all of that, have sufficient reliable sources, properly referenced, and feel you could write the article, by all means, be bold and do so! If you don't feel confident in your writing skills (or you're unsure how to do it) then you could submit the proposal to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for approval, making sure you include relevant, reliable references. Hope that helped! ^Ariel♥Gold 10:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

editing the text of an entry

I'm trying to edit the entry on Michael Reeves (whom I knew), but when I click on [Edit] I get only codings and not the text of the article. How do I make changes then? Thanks. Ingrid Cranfield 10:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Click "edit this page" at the top of the page you want to edit. I assume you clicked the edit button at the "External links" section, which would only allow you to edit the External links section. --Silver Edge 10:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

In addition to the help above, I would direct you to fully read the conflict of interest policy. You should not edit articles about your family, friends, company, or other things with which you would have trouble remaining neutral. If you have information that would be helpful, feel free to post it on the article's talk page, citing your reliable sources and allow an impartial editor to add the material. As for what you see when you click on "edit", you should see an edit box, and inside that box will be the article's content (including what may be unfamiliar to you, the "Wiki script" bits). If you are not seeing the edit box, go into your "my preferences" and click on the "editing" tab, and see if checking (or unchecking) some of the options helps. It also may have to do with your browser's security settings, such as enabling java scripts, etc.

However, I'd again advise against editing articles on people you knew, and encourage you to instead utilize the article's talk page, allowing the community to assist you. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 10:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Moving pages

Is it possible, and if so how, do I move the page I've created from the English Wikipedia to the Portuguese Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hélio Cunha (talk • contribs) 12:04, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

No. You would have to translate the English article to Portuguese and then create a new article at the Portuguese Wikipedia. --Boricuaeddie 13:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

need help

our daughter had to have emergency liver transplant surgery and she is the mother of a 3 year old and 7 month old children, both son in law and our daughter are now financially strapped and in need of help...tried raising money with no avail, please help us help them, my e mail address is: <e-mail removed>

my daughter's name is <name removed>, her husband is <name removed>, the two little ones are <name removed> and <name removed>, and my name is <name removed>. Please help us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.2.215 (talk) 13:09, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. We here at the Help Desk can't help you; this is for questions about Wikipedia. --Boricuaeddie 13:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikitable text font color

Something is overrideing the color parameter at Barry_Bonds#Career_statistics in the Team column. Actually, the problem is that I want the link color to be the color that I have for the color parameter. How do I do that? It is showing in the default blue.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 13:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a full CSS programmer so I am not sure. You can, however, do an ugly solution by simply putting | style="background:black;"|[[Pittsburgh Pirates|<span style="color: #EAC117;">PIT</span>]] as an example cell. The reason why I think this is ugly is because there should be some way of accessing the anchor tag in a table cell from the table cell's style parameter. The color parameter currently being used will, however, apply to plain text (not in a hyperlink). x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

An example: [11] x42bn6 Talk Mess 14:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

email confirmation

I cannot seem to be able to confirm my email address using the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmation/<hash redacted> I get sent to all sites but except user confimation.

                                  Thank you  Jackq i69 13:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, I just confirmed your email by accident because you revealed the hash (don't do that next time - I was too hasty to remove it before hitting enter - and hashes can be brute-forced and abused). The URL is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail/<your hash> rather than Special:Confirmation. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

data mining wikipedia globally.

Hello! If I extract basic data from Wikipedia, for example, the genus and species of animals, or the team colors of different sports teams; do I attribute Wikipedia via GNU because it is a derivative work? Or can I claim the organization of the material as new and *not* a derivative under a new copyright?

Specifically, if I were to extract that type of basic information from Wikipedia 'en masse' - that is, all genus and species data and the familiar name of the corresponding organism) would I be legally bound to GNU?

Or for how about if I were to pair Afrikaans words with Dutch words (via langlinks) and produce a dictionary; or extract etymological information for a large sample of words, but organize it differently?

If you reuse the text, you have to abide by the GFDL. Now, the data itself has been (hopefully) gathered from independent sources. What you could do is follow the citations to that source, read it there, and write your own article, independent of the Wikipedia one, based on that data. It has to be an original work, though: no copy & pasting, no plagiarism. Use your own words based on the cited data and provide proper attribution of your own.

Feels like school papers all over again, doesn't it? ;) -- Kesh 21:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, however I'm still confused: I'm not talking about copying sentences here, I'm talking about copying words from Wikipedia (say, half the titles of all 1 million+ articles) and organizing such titles in a specific way. Would this truly be a derivative work? Deepstratagem 01:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

In that instance, you'll have to consult a lawyer. I can't offer legal advice on the intricacies of the GDFL. -- Kesh 14:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Linking to articles from categories

I don't know where to find the howto of this.
By default, categories link to categories.
The question comes up in a merjer proposal on category:organic compounds.
What I've written works, but it's not very neat, so maybe someone just has to fix up a template. User:Brewhaha 15:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The whole procedure is available at WP:CFD. It's a lot like WP:AFD. There is a little more to do than just a template and discussion, however, as the first link shows. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Whig Society

Hi,

I keep writing an article on the British Whig Society. It keeps getting deleted but I know the party exists as I am president of it's County branch. I have been trying to get other people to add stuff to it but it's being deleted.

The party is a real organisation so I cannot understand why it's not able to stay on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stiofan1979 (talk • contribs) 16:29, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Just because it is real, it does not follow the organization deserves a Wikipedia article. Please see our policies on notability and verifiability. -- 68.156.149.62 16:36, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you are a member of an organization, please read our conflict of interest policy before creating an article about it.--Max Talk (+) 20:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Wii

Is there any way to see latest articles added to particular category? In this case Category:Wii games and Category:Wii-only games. Thanks in advance. -- Dvorsky 16:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

No. I recommend that you check the category every now and again for new articles. Also, look for articles organized by Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games. Shalom ^Hello 16:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Not directly in the interface, but if you know a bit of programming, you might be able to conjure something up. The Wikipedia database retains timestamps for when something was last added to a category. By using for instance the query.php interface, you can look up these kinds of things, but you do need to know how to parse it. --Pekaje 17:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

You can watch categories for new article additions via User:Ais523/catwatch.js, or you if you need to monitor the articles themselves, click on Special:Recentchangeslinked in the Toolbox while viewing a category. Adrian M. H. 19:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Creating account

I have tried several times to create account in order to use Wikipedia. No luck. Why is this so difficult? Impossible?

Mvangraaf@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.63.86 (talk) 18:17, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

People isn't going to be able to help you unless you state exactly what problem you are having with it. What's difficult about it? You select "Sign in / create account" at the top right of any Wikipedia's page, select "[12]", fill in the capatcha and choose a Username and password, which is pretty much the same as most websites on the internet that requires registration. KTC 18:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Another option is to go to Wikipedia:Request an account and follow the options there. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 19:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the email address be removed?Vchimpanzee 21:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

possible deletion of my topic and article

I had an article under dog tax or dog license collecting. my name is Diane Bandy. I cannot find it anywhere and think possible a jealous competitor had it deleted. Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diane Bandy (talk • contribs) 19:49, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

More than likely, it did not meet the criteria for articles, and was speedily deleted. Please see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?, including the general criteria under which articles may get deleted. Articles need to assert the notability of the subject. Please see our subject-specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content. Also be aware that if you are closely associated with the subject, (or are writing about yourself) the conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating or editing the article. If you still think your article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. If you would prefer to get input prior to creating the article, to avoid the possibility that it may be deleted, feel free to post your suggestions at the articles for creation page. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 19:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

There is an article in your talk page that seems to be about what you are talking about. If that is the text you are referring to, and if it was in mainspace, then it would most likely have been deleted because it is advertising under WP:SPAM Hope this helps. Woodym555 20:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Dog license collecting was deleted by User:NawlinWiki in April under the reason (original essay). You could ask them for specific reasons if you like at User talk:NawlinWiki. Woodym555 20:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

How do i delete it?

how do i delete it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.140.47 (talk) 20:28, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Could we possibly have a title of what you want deleted? Do you want the whole article deleted or just a particular part? Woodym555 20:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Also i don't know what there is that you would want to delete because IPs can't create pages. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

blaylock transport @movng labor services

how do i advertse small company an not go broke heres a thanks from blaylock transport . hi we are a family company - we do it all from loading or unloading any size truck ltl/ pods-or storages an much more from household to offices. also on site moves plus full service packing-dishes computers an hivalue items plus we are a transport service but are not lic for household. only home deliverys dock to dock we also pickup form any store like ikea home depot maceys an much more. like air freight . thankyou for your time please call at removed

small profile please help/////

Wikipedia is not an advertising service. -- Kesh 22:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

One dab page for multiple words?

Hello, is it possible to have one dab page for multiple words?

I came accross Nett which refers to a place in Micronesia, but Nett is also an alternative spelling of Net (as in the opposite of Gross) - can the existing Nett be renamed to something unambiguous, and this be added to the existing dab page at Net, despite the different spelling? Don't suppose this is something that would come up that often :-)

Cheers, Davidprior 23:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we need to rename Nett, but I did add a "as an alternate spelling" header to the db page at Net. You can see it all the way at the bottom. Thanks! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

help

'how do I find what a word means?' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.97.19 (talk) 23:46, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

If you are asking how you find the meaning of a word, The Reference Desk would be more suited to that kind of question. The Help Desk is for questions about Wikipedia. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Or see Wiktionary, one of our sister projects. It's like Wikipedia, except it's a dictionary and thesaurus instead of an encyclopedia. Raven4x4x 00:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

August 27

Created Page Not Searchable

Hello,

Last week I created a page called 'The Orchid and the Rose' but it is not searchable. I rechecked how to create a page and I can't see where I went wrong. It is listed at the top in my contrabutions page.

How to I get my information searchable in Wiki..?

Regards

a/[[User:03:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't find an article of that title, and neither can I find it in the deletion log. However, there does seem to be some text on your user talk page: User talk:Saetheus. Is that where you were creating it? Before you consider trying to make it an article in the "main" space (i.e. where the article actually are), you should read about Wikipedia's notability guideline on books, and the conflict of interest guideline, both of which mean that that article would be unlikely to last for long as it stands. Confusing Manifestation 03:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Voluntary work on site

I was just wondering if there was a way I could have a "job" to get emailed what to write on a article or a source to check and if someone could tell me when to do what?

--Willis Wikister 04:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The closest thing I could think of is Category:Wikipedia_backlog... lots of work to be done. Just pick a list and start working through it. There's also the Special:Random link. Are you interested in a particular topic? There are many Wikiprojects that you could join. Many of them have a well organized and directed workflow. Sancho 04:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You can also ask for some suggested articles to edit from User:SuggestBot. Confusing Manifestation 06:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Deleting a duplicate article

how do you delete a duplicate article??Jbublick 05:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

In the duplicate article, write #REDIRECT [[Other article]], where "Other title" is what article is being duplicated. MessedRocker (talk) 05:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

See also redirects and merges. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

downloading

can i download the pages in wikipedia? if yes,plz let me know how.59.96.33.205 06:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Please see WP:DD. Shalom ^Hello 13:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Playwrights

HOW DO YOU FIND PLAYWRIGHTS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.34.244 (talk) 06:15, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Looking in this category might be a good start Category:Dramatists_and_playwrights. --JayHenry 06:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Messages ?

Some times other users send me messages , i dont know how ...i want to send other users messages but i dont know how --Max Mayr 07:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You can send other users messages on their talk pages (for example, User talk:WODUP or User talk:Max Mayr). WODUP 08:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Drinking lemons

is it true drinking 10 pure lemons are good cleansing for the body? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.223.149 (talk) 09:14, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.. Note that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter 13:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Per PrimeHunter's final comment, please don't ask this question at the Reference Desk—while we at the Desk normally are pleased to offer answers and guidance in answering questions of a factual nature, we really can't give you medical advice. If you're considering a substantial dietary change or unusual therapy, you would be best to consult your physician or a qualified dietitian. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Elizabeth Bishop

I am writing an article on Elizabeth Bishop.

I want to include examples of her poetry.

She died in 1979.

Do copyright laws still apply 28 years after her death ?

Can I add her poems to the article ?

Tovojolo 09:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, copyright laws still apply. Think 70 years before considering including copyrightable material. We don't quote poetry in full, for the most part. Short quotations are always acceptable, if fully cited, as that is a "fair use" of copyright material. See WP:COPY for lots more detail. AndyJones 11:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter 12:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

This section under construction

Is there a "this section is under construction"-type maintenance tag. I think it might be useful for the top half of List of historical figures dramatised by Shakespeare, while I work on it, since it'll clearly take days (or weeks) to do, and in the meantime the article will inevitably look unpolished. AndyJones 11:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance. KTC 11:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Good one, thank you. {Underconstruction} seemed to fit my bill. AndyJones 12:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

List of Basic Topics

When using wikipedia a few weeks ago, I found a list of basic topics that are, I believe, supposed to be covered by wikipedia in all its major languages. The list included people (eg Dante, Shakespeare, Darwin etc.), civilisations, areas of science etc. I'm trying to find this page again and I can't. Could you tell me how to access it please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.130.102.174 (talk) 12:12, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Vital articles. PrimeHunter 12:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

EDITING

hi i was wondering how would i add in a statement stephen harper said about kyoto, in the kyoto protocol page????Macrae1992 13:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit the page to include it. Pick a quote which is relevant, and make sure it's not over-long (ie not pages and pages of stuff). Finally, add a link to the source - you can use <ref> tags or just place the link in square brackets: []. Adding quotes is like any other edit, that is it should keep the overall article unbiased. See also Wikipedia:Quotations. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

yes but kyoto protocol is blocked for me to edit so it is not possible how can i edit the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macrae1992 (talk • contribs) 21:36, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Kyoto Protocol is currently semi-protected, so that only registered users with accounts older than roughly 4 days can edit. As the big template on the top of the page says, "If you are prevented from editing this article, and you wish to make a change, please discuss changes on the talk page, request unprotection, log in, or create an account." (although obviously you have created an account, it's just too young still). So, your best option is to discuss it on the talk page of the article. Just start a new section with your suggested changes, and someone whose account is old enough can help you make them. Confusing Manifestation 22:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests

Hi my Name is Mike Acher I have a speshalist intrest in Earth construction, which grew out of my Degree in Architectural technology and design. If my spelling or grammer is a little wanky please bear with me as I am Dyslexic and the writen word chalenges me rarther.

I am serching high and low for 2 maps:

• one on clay types Montmorillonite, Kaolinite and Illite for the UK in particulare Cumbria.
• the second map I am looking for is on types of clay Pozolanic etc.

I suspect that the 2 types are either the same or cross frefence the information in an implyed manner.

please call on <removed> or e-mail on <removed>

I am giving a talk at carlisile on the 4th of september 2007 at Tullli House and it would be help full if I could talk in moor detail about the materials and their loacations, related to earth builds in the area.

I have a couple of papers you might be interested in on earth construction how does it work for submision.

I have just done somthing> I'm not sure if I was right. I was on the Illite page and topic not found came up on the discution tab I put in the above text. I hope this was right?? it was not easily clear how to ask such a question —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Archer (talk • contribs) 13:31, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Mike. I've removed your personal information, as this page is highly visible and at high risk for spammers. Since this is an informational question, you'd probably be better off asking at the Reference Desk, specifically the science section. Asking your question on the article's talk page (which is what you did) should work also, but may not get as fast a response. But yes, the discussion tab is the correct place for questions about an article. Just remember when you post a question such as the one above to sign it with four tildes (~~~~). This way we know who we're talking to and when you posted the message. Thanks, and good luck with your talk. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How do you make Infoboxes on articles

I was wondering how to make infoboxes for films as I am currently trying to write an article on the 1929 Indian movie A Throw of Dice. Could you please provide me with some information. Emishi 14:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Infoboxes has a Directory of Infoboxes. The film infobox is {{Infobox Film}}. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Requesting an Article

I wanted to submit a request for an article on "abax" so when I searched I got

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=abax&go=Go

So I clicked on the link in the sentence:

"You can create this page or request it."

And I clicked on the "Request it" link and got to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles

which doesn't seem to have anything to do with requesting an article.

I expected a form such as this help one where I could fill in the search I requested and perhaps categorize it.

So how do I submit a request for an article?

Thank you,

Softtest123 15:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

It appears that you didn't read the very first three sentences on the Requested Articles page: "This is Wikipedia's page for requested articles. If you want to request a new article, this is the right place to start. This is to help you request an article that is not in Wikipedia's database." -- Kainaw^(what?) 22:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

the highest lakes.

i want to know about the highest lakes in the world as per their height. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.193.128.226 (talk) 15:04, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

You should ask this question at the Reference Desk, which specializes in knowledge questions. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Lake Titicaca is the highest commercially navigable lake in the world, but not nearly the highest lake. See Lake#Notable lakes for the highest (an unnamed pool on Ojos del Salado) and second-highest lakes. It stands to reason that the world's highest lakes must be in the world's highest mountain and plateau areas, namely the Himalaya, the Tibetan Plateau, and the Andes. A limiting factor would be that the highest elevations are above the snow line (depending on latitude, of course, as the snow line is highest at the equator) and thus you wouldn't find liquid water above those elevations. Wikipedia has List of lakes, List of largest lakes of Western Europe, List of world's largest lakes, and several more, but I do not find a list of lakes by surface elevation. Which isn't to say there isn't one. Of course we can try searching: Google:list of highest lakes, which finds an interesting site: http://www.highestlake.com/ --Teratornis 19:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Problems in math symbols.

--201.88.18.222 15:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

It's hard to read math articles over you. Almost always they are shown as a little square on their place. I'm using from Brasil and my XP is portuguese.

Thank you, --email removed--

That is quite strange. Almost all nontrivial equations should automatically be rendered as PNG images, so if you're getting little squares in their place, there can be several causes:

1. Your browser is having problems showing PNG images. If you're using Internet Explorer, try it in another browser, like Firefox.
2. There could be something on your connection that filters or breaks the images. Perhaps some sort of proxy?
3. The Wikipedia servers could be overworked, and connections are being dropped before the image can be delivered. In that case the problem will go away on its own.

Not sure what to consider most likely, but I'd start by trying it in another browser first. --Pekaje 21:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Email address should be removed.Vchimpanzee 21:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

how to deleat a page

how can i remove a page permanently i created myself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thethoughts (talk • contribs) 16:14, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

You can't do this yourself, but if nobody else has edited the page, place {{db-author}} on the page and an administrator will delete it for you. --ais523 16:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Using search engines to find wikipedia pages

Hi there. ive recently write a page in wikipedia, and would like to know how can i make it searcheable for example in google? thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ser33 (talk • contribs) 16:34, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Search engines don't update their indexes immediately. If the article stays on Wikipedia for a while (within a few weeks, ususally) without being deleted, the major search engines will have indexed the article by then and it will be found by a search. --ais523 16:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

When do I get my money?

I have made an edit to Harold and Inge Marcus Department of Industrial and Manufacturing Engineering, which is your featured article. How much do I get paid for contributing to this encyclopedia? Is there a page where I can enter my credit card details? Thank You. --Weinessaaer 16:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't pay its editors; Wikipedia is a charity. There was an April Fool's joke recently suggesting the opposite (that editors would have to pay to edit), but neither is true. See Wikipedia:About for more information. --ais523 16:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

From the edit page when you edit anything on Wikipedia.

Please note:

• By submitting content, you agree to release your contributions under the GNU Free Documentation License.
• If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.
• Only public domain resources can be copied without permission—this does not include most web pages or images.
• See our policies and guidelines for more information on editing.

-- KTC 16:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well in that case, this is now a semi-legal matter. There is a e-mail address or a written address that I can write to regarding legality? Please dont bombard me with your "No Legal Threats" page. I am serious. --Weinessaaer 16:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know how else we're supposed to respond. Wikipedia is an entirely volunteer-run organization, which receives funding from charitable donations. I spend several hours a day on here, and I don't get a cent. Nobody, including the administrators and other higher-ups, gets paid. If that's not what you expected, then I'm afraid you're at the wrong site. Please don't make legal threats, as that is a good way to get blocked. I'm just as serious as you about that. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

goddammit! --Weinessaaer 17:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Section headings and infoboxes

This might be a bit of an obvious issue, but is there any way the CSS of Wikipedia can be changed so that the dividing lines underneath headings don’t clash with infoboxes or right-aligned templates? It creates a real visual clash on lots of pages, surely their must be a workable solution. Sorry if this question has been asked before. Max Naylor 16:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You should probably ask at the Tech village pump - they'll have a better idea of what to do about this, but I do agree, it's a tad annoying at times. Failing that, try opening up a ticket on bugzilla. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

My Photo is on wikipedia without permission!

Look at: Image:Northern Line carriage - internal - night - London - 240404.jpg

I am the closest guy on the right hand side of the carriage seating down. Can you please remove this image? I was not asked for permission for my photo to be on Wikipedia. Thank You very much. --WoodenLadder 17:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it makes sense that if one is photographed in a public place, permission is not required to use the photo. Granted, perhaps if you wanted to take a replacement picture (and since you value permission, request that those photographed offer theirs) that would be acceptable. Sorry if I sound blunt, but I don't see another alternative. Is there some recourse for people making requests of this kind? Leebo ^T/C 17:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

ahh fine keep the picture.. I look good in it anyway. --WoodenLadder 17:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Complaint letter

Who is the "manager" of Wikipedia? I have a long and treterous complaint letter for him. How can I contact him? --000Cranleigh000Sauce000 17:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI, You're going to wind up usernameblocked, too many 000s--172.165.207.81 17:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is run by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, have a look at its contact page if you want to contact it. KTC 17:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Whats wrong with too many 000's? --000Cranleigh000Sauce000 17:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Nothing really, I'm not sure why the anonymous user 172.165.207.81 said that. Also, if your complaint is related to a specific article or user, you may have more luck discussing the issue at the relevant talk page. Leebo ^T/C 17:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Surprise surprise! This is actually Jimbo :) I was just testing the services of the Help Desk. Good Job guys, I will keep your names noted down. --000Cranleigh000Sauce000 17:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

subscripts/superscripts in TOC entries from section headings

Hello. I wish to use subscripts in section headings. I can do that with no difficulty; the markup is the same, only used with the heading text bracketed by the appropriate number of equals signs. However, the subscripts do not show up properly in the heading text when in the table of contents for the page.

Is there a way to make the table of contents show subscripts or superscripts correctly? Thanks, Baccyak4H (Yak!) 17:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Uncolor links

In order to standardize Wikipedia articles, is there a way that I can "temporarily" select all and re-color the text so it will not "tempt" me to click on the supplied link(s) so just concentrate on the article itself. I can achieve this by "highlighting" but is there a better way? Thanks. BR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daedaleus (talk • contribs) 17:30, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Skins

How do you create custom skins for Wikipedia? Also how do you use them and let other users use them?

Desalvionjr 17:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Look at Wikiproject CSS and Help:User style. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 17:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU! Desalvionjr 17:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Nominations and stuff

Is there any generator to generate pages like nomination pages for you. I would help people who don't know what they need in there nominations because this way you would just answer questions and type in other requested stuff. So is there any tool for doing that?

Desalvionjr 17:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Pardon me if I'm simply missing it, but can you clarify what you mean? Nominations for what in particular? Leebo ^T/C 17:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Like sysop nominations and stuff, because that process is very confusing. Desalvionjr 17:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, sysop noms already have something of a "generator". If you go to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/nominate and click the button for nominating another user with their name replacing "USERNAME" it takes you to a page were all you have to do is place their name and your nomination statement. Then the rest is up to the person who you nominated. Leebo ^T/C 17:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well after that bit it is confusing. I am more thinking self nomination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 18:02, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

After that, the nominated user must accept the nomination, answer the questions by editing the page, and transclude it to the RfA page. With regard to nominating yourself, I recommend you wait and continue to gain experience. Leebo ^T/C 18:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I am experienced it is just the instructions are poorly worded to the extent where I don't understand. Desalvionjr 18:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

What I mean to say is that the amount of edits you have made does not really allow for users to see if you fully understand Wikipedia policy. This is usually achieved by participating in policy discussions, writing articles, and demonstrating the ability to effectively communicate with users over a broad range of areas within Wikipedia. I'm not trying to disparage the work you have done, just explain what is expected of RfA candidates. Leebo ^T/C 18:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I already know what is expected of rfa candidates it is just the process of nomination is poorly worded and confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 18:19, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you need described. There are 5 instructions for nominating yourself and they're all 1 sentence. If your question is just focused on that, I recommend asking on the talk page. Leebo ^T/C 18:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait? What page are those instructions on? either I missed it or I thought it was referring to another process. Desalvionjr 18:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The instructions for nominating yourself are here. Leebo ^T/C 18:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I leave Wikipedia?

I just don't have time to do anything on Wikipedia and want to delete my account. How do I go about doing just that?JamesBJSU 17:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You don't. Just stop logging in. While it is possible to have an account deleted for special circumstances, the general answer is to just stop using the account. See m:right to vanish. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiCode

How do I contribute to wikicode itself? Desalvionjr 17:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean MediaWiki? Click on the the "Powered By MediaWiki" logo at the bottom of every page. That will take you to the site about the program Wikipedia uses for the "wikicode". -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I mean the code for articles and stuff. not mediawiki. --Desalvionjr 18:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you give an example? Leebo ^T/C 18:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

According to your edit history, you've edited many articles. So, you must not be asking about editing the content of pages. Therefore, you must be painfully clear what you mean by "code". Mediawiki is the program that translates all the weird "wiki" stuff into the stuff we see in the pages. What other code could you possible be talking about? -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I am Talking about "WikiMarkup" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 18:10, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Wiki markup, such as what changes double brackets around words into links to articles, is the mediawiki program, and you indicated that's not what you're referring to. Leebo ^T/C 18:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Kind of. I am reffering to the scripting language the double brackets belong to (I think...) --Desalvionjr 18:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

There's nowhere on Wikipedia to edit the way that Wikipedia functions from a scripting standpoint. That's the MediaWiki program, which Wikipedia shares with many wikis. Leebo ^T/C 18:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Then how do you contribute to mediawiki? --Desalvionjr 18:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Click on the "Powered By Mediawiki" icon at the bottom of every page. That will take you to the MediaWiki homepage - where you can get info on contributing. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Where on the page is the info?

See mw:Developer_hub. WODUP 18:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you wodup! I think that is what I was looking for the whole time!

Perhaps they should make the word "Developers" on the MediaWiki homepage is 96pt blinking font with a floating "click here for developer info" traveling around it. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

To do that you would have to use an elaborate JavaScript code and an applet scripted for that floaty text effect! --Desalvionjr 18:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding a Reference list in a wiki-style database

I write/edit articles for the computer services department at the college I go to. I am having trouble creating reference lists/citations as the Wikipedia style guide explains. We are powered by mediawiki, so I imagine that we can, but apparently must do so in a completely different manner. What do I need to do to begin creating reference lists on articles. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.42.53 (talk) 18:01, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

If I read this correctly, you have your own MediaWiki install and want to use the <ref> tag. See the cite extension. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

liberal bias on wikipedia?!

What is the name of the wikiproject that is used to fight systematic liberal bias on wikipeida?! I want to join!--CCRT 18:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. KTC 18:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Fix a faulty redirect

I tried to set up a disambigution page and got a redirect set up instead. I need to restore the original page (the data is still there) but there should be a disambiguation page also. The page is the entry for the actor James Gleason.

Mabibliophile 18:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

If you go to James Gleason now, it is the start of a disambig page for you. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

creating a new entry

I looked through the FAQ and could not see exactly how to create a new Wiki entry. can you pls help me?

Thank you!

Pam —Preceding unsigned comment added by PamelaS821 (talk • contribs) 18:24, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 18:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I add pictures?

How do I add pictures to Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohyeh (talk • contribs) 18:37, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

See WP:UPIMAGE -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Service Corporation International

Hello,

I would like to inquire on how to include the correct information on your site. The information currently posted in the Wikipedia site for Service Corporation International is unfavorable. I tried uploading the company information based on our corporate website but then I was blocked from the site. Can you please advise on the approval steps to include our company content in Wikipedia? Also, as an example, I would like the page to look like Shell Oil Corporation. Thanks.

Florencia Parada Public Relations Service Corporation International florencia.parada@sci-us.com

The edits were removed due to a clear conflict of interest. Provide third-party resources for the changes you want made on the article's talk page (click "discussion" at the top of the article). There is already a notice on the page that it appear unbalanced. Helping by providing balanced references from third-party sources will quickly fix the problem. -- Kainaw^(what?) 19:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like to erase the content completely and start from scratch. How can I do that? Last week I tried to erase the content and include our corporate information and was blocked indefinitely. My ip address is 67.99.40.15. Please advise.

The issue is that you (the company, or those directly related to the company) should not personally edit the article in any way, as it is a conflict of interest. As stated, it is advised that you go to the talk page to suggest changes or the new article you wish to have created. But again, it will need third party sources, not your company's information. Leebo ^T/C 19:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Where in the talk page can I submitt my suggestions?

Just click the + at the top of the talk page. You will get a form with a title and text box. This is nearly identical to sending an email with a Subject line and a Message box. Your comment will be added to the bottom of the talk page. I should note that requests to remove content that is documented by reliable third-party sources is difficult. That is the point of Wikipedia - documenting notable topics through reliable sources. It is not in any way a MySpace or Facebook site for companies to rave about how great they are (which is requested by one PR firm or another on a daily basis). -- Kainaw^(what?) 22:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Editing a page doesn't edit... it tries to download index.php???

I am trying to edit a page I just created by click on the EDIT THIS PAGE tab at the top. ( I am using Firefox mainly ) However, everytime I do it, I get a download dialog box that asks me where I want to save index.php??? I opened the page in IE and suddenly it worked. However, after a couple edits, even IE started doing the download thing. I am lost as to how to edit the whole page.

The page I want to work with is: T-Town Derby Grrls

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomblink (talk • contribs) 19:27, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

While this is not a situation with which I am familiar, another user reported the same situation earlier this week, and PrimeHunter suggested the following: "Try clicking my preferences at the top, and then click the "Editing" tab. If there is a check mark at "Use external editor by default" then click it to remove the mark, and click "Save"." Perhaps this solution will work for you. --Moonriddengirl 19:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Reverts for no reason

What do I do if someone reverts this for no reason, keep in mind that I was only following Wikipedia:External links. I know that I could just delete them again, but that might become an edit war, which I don't want. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 20:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused... has anyone actually reverted you? If they haven't (the user after you even thanked you for the pruning of links) what is the concern? As a side note, your edit summary in the removal might be a bit of a strict interpretation of WP:EL (it doesn't say exactly what you say it does), but I'm not sure what your concern at the moment is. Leebo ^T/C 20:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you meant this page diff. Well, you were right to not delete again as edit wars are not fun for the people involved. What you can do is try discussing the link with the editor who re-inserted it and find out their reasons to keep it in the article. If you can't come to an agreement regarding the link, try discussing the link on the articles talk page. I hope this might help. AngelOfSadness talk 20:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No, this is the revert, the other one I approve of because it wasn't a neutral article. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 21:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah ok. Like I said try discussing the links re-insertion with the editor who re-inserted it and try to find out their reasons behind their edit. And if it doesn't work discuss it on the articles talk page. And if you've tried both of these, and none of them worked try mediation. AngelOfSadness talk 21:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

But it was later removed again as per concensus of past discussions. It sounds like the situation is under control, and I don't see an indication that this is going to balloon into a revert war. This has been discussed already, it doesn't need to be mediated. Leebo ^T/C 21:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I already started a conversation on the talk page, I just wanted to know if there were other, more powerful ways to resolve this considering that I read that RookZERO (the reverter) doesn't talk about problems. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 21:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, and he has numerous temporary blocks for 3RR violations ... There might be some edit war potential there. If he refuses to discuss it, you could consider mediation, or possibly a RFC on the issue. --Pekaje 21:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Display fonts

I have obviously deleted the font that Wikipedia uses for use 'behind the scenes'. I see Wikipedia entries just fine, but if I sign to edit, it displays in a font that is not readable. What font do I need to reinstall?

Thanks

Scielinski 21:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Report potentially offensive userbox

Sorry I was just wondering how I can do this - I assume it is possible as there are places for offensive usernames, pages, etc. [[Guest9999 21:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)]]

Generally speaking, Wikipedia is not censored, and users have a large amount of leeway on their own pages. However, in extreme cases, I suppose one could nominate it at Miscellany for deletion, which is the deletion debates for everything that doesn't fit another deletion method (I'm assuming the userbox is in the user namespace). Would you mind pointing us to the supposedly offensive userbox? --Pekaje 22:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Question 1

What is the strategies (plans of action) for effective client liaison that the Personal assistant would have in place to ensure the following responsibilities are carried out effectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.145.220 (talk) 21:55, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

This question would be better directed toward the Reference Desk. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 22:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Help without a Headline

I asked a question (# 7.15 Requesting an Article) but forgot to enter a Subject/headline. I went back and edited in a Subject, but I notice that in my history, the Subject of the edit is incorrect and refers to the preceding question. I haven't gotten an answer to my question and I wonder if this is why.

Softtest123 22:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why, but the easiest way to request a article be created is to go to the page you were at and select the appropriate sub category. Then when you get to that page, add the articles name in the appropriate sub category of that page. Soon or a later a editor will come along and create the page. It is easier just to create the page by yourself. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You wanted an article about "abax" with no specification. A Google search shows many different things called abax. Which one do you want? Your user page says you refer to yourself as a "Cyber Entomologist". If you want the abax beetle which is a redlink in Ground beetle then you might request translation of it:abax or fr:abax at Wikipedia:Translation. You also say you have an interest in the history of mathematics. In that case, we have an article on abacus which is derived from the Greek word abax. PrimeHunter 02:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

August 28

default password

I forget my windows password and also linux password.So I want to know what its default password?Iloveugourab 00:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Default password for what? Wikipedia has no default password. --rogerd 00:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Linux does not have a default password either. -- Kainaw^(what?) 00:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Basic editing question

I'm trying to edit a new page on created called "bandonym" but most of my edits are not appearing. Am I blocked from making further edits until it gets reviewed or something? Rick Martell 03:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Rick. I'm not positive, but I think you're just experiencing a bit of lag in the servers. Your block log is clean, and if you look at the history of the page (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bandonym&action=history), you can see all of your edits. Does that answer your question? *Cremepuff222* 03:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it does, thanks. I will check in on the page later.Rick Martell 03:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

bpo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.106.222 (talk) 04:06, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Web browser search field?

Hi

My name is Erik Moberg and I wonder if it is possible to get a search field for wikipedia in the toolbar of ones web browser. Just like the one that's available from google, which I really like.

Thanks!

Erik