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Deletion discussion

Hi. As someone who's contributed to deletion discussions concerning micronation articles before, I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking a look at this one. --Gene_poole 00:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Tell no lie on WP:AIV

Hi James, just to let you know that Tell no lie's actions are not simple vandalism, and therefore beyond the jurisdiction of WP:AIV. A quick glance shows me that he violated WP:3RR. If so, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR is the best place to report it. For other cases, perhaps Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard is the place to report it. Cheers, Deathphoenix ʕ 02:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Iraq War escalation advocates

talk: Yaron Brook

Hi James, thanks for your comment. And concerning this: I find a discussion that's gotten rather far afield. Absolutely true, sorry! I somehow got curious in what feels like a peculiar subset of the human species and the "objectivist" and their peculiar moral system. I discovered something I so far would have considered pure red-neck ideology.

I think what we are lacking is moral assuredness, moral confidence in our cause, and in that sense I think this administration have been moral cowards in not asserting that we do have a moral right, that we don’t need anybody else to tell us we are right, it’s enough to say we believe this is America’s self-interest. That’s the moral justification for going in. And I think that it’s not so much that we are seeking the American people’s approval, indeed president Bush has done very little in trying to seek the American people’s approval. We focused our entire attention in trying to seek the world’s approval, as if we need their permission to pursue our self-interest, instead of focusing on the American people. Which I think, I think the American people would grant this president the authority to do what is necessary to defend us, if he made the case to us. But they spent most of the time at the UN rather than in front of us the Americans. Should the U.S. Invade Iraq Without U.N. Approval? Thursday, March 6, 2003, Yaron Brook

Maybe I should delete some of my verbal meanderings, but this is really fascinating stuff, at least from an old Europe point of view.

What a wonderful spelling champion you are!!! 13 is one of my favorite numbers. LeaNder 19:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Boehner

You seemingly inadvertently removed clarifying text when you made another quotation insertion. I have since replaced this text, leaving your new quotation. Skyemoor 19:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, you removed it the second time . Just read your bio, though, and we are on the same team, so to speak. I believe the words add necessary context, just as the words you added following the quote you provided supply needed context. Skyemoor 22:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

EVP

Thanks for your comments. My attempt at a discuss-cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD%2C_revert%2C_discuss_cycle#Tactics) had obviously failed. I hope you'll stay on and look in the article and Talk page from time to time, as it desperately needs some balancing opinion. --- LuckyLouie 06:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Geoffrey Giuliano

Hello. What has one to do about Geoffrey Giuliano? I dislike to let him have his way, but one cannot keep reverting his self-aggrandizing editings. As I wrote about the afd, I'd vote to keep a very lean article. Is there some policy (and, more important, some way to enforce it) to keep him from putting again and again his puffery, as you appropriately defined it? All the best, Goochelaar 21:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with what you and Dmz5 wrote. Let's revert a bit and see. Bye, Goochelaar 09:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, for two or three weeks Notinsane refrained from editing the article about Geoffrey Giuliano. But it appears that now an anonymous version of him, or someone other, is back... --Goochelaar 10:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

EVP

Hello, on the advice of LuckyLouie, I am going to try to put together Arbcom case for this article. He says there are longstanding problems. I have looked at the talkpage, and I see that ScienceApologist was very involved. At his page, it says he is on break. Do you know how to contact him? -MsHyde 02:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

More tofu?

Your Q on another page. No don't touch the stuff. Cut sugar, bread, cakes, French fries. Bigger emphasis on protein, (meat for instance), veg, salads, fruits. Started getting relief from day one.It can be difficult to stick with at times, but I just try to go back to it. That's only this last 3 months. Had been suffering for a year.Goodbye 2 07:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching my spelling

If two demon landlords offer to rent out a flat, the lower price is the evil of two lessors. ;) Chivista 20:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm a tenant myself, so I'd consider the higher price to be the evil of two lessors.  :) JamesMLane t c 20:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Again, with you and spelling? --kizzle 22:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. I feel an obligation to earn the "spelling champ" title that you bestowed upon me. JamesMLane t c 23:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Military service controversy

There's discussion waiting for you at John Kerry Military Service Controversy. KevinPuj 11:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment

Hi James. There is a content dispute going on over at the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth article and talk page re one of my contributions to the "Book" section. Specifically, it hinges on another editor's interpretation of what constitutes "original research." As you seem knowledgeable on the topic and fair minded, perhaps you will come over and comment? Thanks. --EECEE 21:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ken Bennett

We can't have a section entitled "controversies" when there's absolutely no evidence that the two events cited are actually controversial. There's been no sources cited to assert that the reimbursement matter had any public interest or comment, nor is there any evidence that Mr. Bennett was at all involved in any sort of abuse of power w/r/t his son's criminal case. We can't have unsupported assertions, speculation and innuendo in Wikipedia biographies. Thanks for understanding. FCYTravis 15:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Geoffrey Giuliano

Hi this is Geoffrey and I WAS born on September 11, 1953. My email is milesfar@hotmail.com. If you write me I can email you a scan of my birth certificate. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.120.188.42 (talk) 03:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

No! You would save yourself and everyone else a great deal of time if you would actually read the Wikipedia policies that we keep pointing out to you -- in this instance, WP:ATT. Wikipedia is not a forum for original research. Material that appears in our articles must be verifiable through public sources. If the information about your birthdate has been published somewhere (in print or online), we can use it and cite the publication. If not, then it wouldn't matter if your mother, the attending physician, and the City Clerk all came to my door waving birth certificates and hospital records and notarized affidavits. JamesMLane t c 03:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Please see source article number one in Giuliano's references for CORRECT spelling of ex wife's name.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.120.188.42 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Ken Bennet

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm not an AZ person myself either (I'm in Brooklyn), but law school has taught me how to research and write. NTK 03:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the Haslingden article

Thank you for saving the Bruce Haslingden article from deletion. I really appreciated it. Chris 20:25, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Phil Paulson

James, can't seem to reach you contact me at alvrdb-mail at yahoo dot com You are a fount of information and a guide to Wikipedia. I started the Paulson article that you have contributed to. Many questions Thanks Al RodbellArodb 15:35, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Something to make your day!

Teddey has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Teddey 21:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits

Sue Secretary for CFL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doodysprinkles (talk • contribs) 01:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Naturopathic Medicine

Whoa! Be careful. You just called me and my cohorts in medical school quacks! It is very apparent that you don't quite understand the US naturopathic medical system, community and philosophy. Do you know about our educational standards? That we study exactly what the allopaths study? (minus the focus on palliative and suppressive pharmaceuticals). That we are one of many groups in the health community that are trying to help fix the broken healthcare system? How about that our degree is designated as "First Professional? Not to mention that there is a handful of MD's in our program who have left their field to learn how to give better medical care? If you want to add your "critiques", I and the rest of accredited and licensed ND's welcome any that you can conjure up. We've been batting back the criticisms from the AMA and PHARMA since the 50's. And to be clear, we use SOME homeopathy, but it is not fair to compare our profession of primary care providing physicians to the pseudoscientific aspects of homeopathy. If you need my assistance in better understanding our profession, feel free to contact me anytime. Or better yet, see a licensed ND in NYC. They will spend an hour with you, try to get to the root cause and won't just suppress your symptoms with a pharmaceutical that will give you side effects. For all the chronic healthcare issues that our country faces and the inadequacy of our current allopathic medical system, I am surprised that people complain about the work we do. Thanks for your input. --Travisthurston 16:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Travisthurston has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
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Gay Left

Yes, I closed this as withdrawn by nominator, which defaulted to keep, based on the discussion on the talkpage about finding sources and the keep !votes at the afd. Looking at page histories, EliminatorJR (talk · contribs) moved the article from "Gay Left" to Gay Left on May 25. It was tagged as a copyvio of content from http://www.gayleft1970s.org/intro.asp and http://www.gayleft1970s.org/ by Butseriouslyfolks (talk · contribs) and speedy deleted as such by Sr13 (talk · contribs) on May 26. So it looks like that is why they are redlinks now.--Isotope23 13:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep. It was my understanding when I closed the AfD that sources were being produced for this article. I suspect the originator has some sort of association with that website so releasing the content to be used on Wikipedia is an option as well. Oh wait... I just noticed the originator created the article at Gay left in a different form.--Isotope23 14:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ex post facto law

Thank you for your help. Could I ask if I understand correctly that any law decriminalising something is not an ex post facto law? In other words, an amnesty law would not be an ex post facto law? Respectfully Nomen Nescio^{Gnothi seauton} 00:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Our article on Ex post facto includes an amnesty within its scope. For U.S. Constitutional purposes, however, I think that's inaccurate. My understanding is that the prohibition applies only to making criminal something that was previously legal, or increasing the penalty for something that was previously illegal.

On that basis, a mere amnesty for war criminals (in the sense of shielding them from criminal liability) wouldn't violate the Ex Post Facto Clause. On the other hand, I think I've read that the MCA purports to remove the illegality of those past acts as a basis for a private civil suit. That might violate the Constitutional rights of individuals who were injured by the criminal conduct. Before the MCA, they had a cause of action against the people who ordered them tortured or whatever. If the MCA takes that cause of action away from them, it might be held to be taking their property without due process of law. JamesMLane t c 01:13, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/A.C. Milan squad

Thanks for bring some neutral comment to the discussion.--ClaudioMB 15:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Whoops

Mostly, when I close an AfD debate, it's as Delete. So I don't have the reflex to add the "this article was the subject of etc" box to the talk page; thanks for catching that for me. DS 12:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Seth Finkelstein

The Seth Finkelstein article is now being discussed on WP:DRV. Since your name has been mentioned in the discussion, you may wish to comment. DES ^(talk) 14:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Nleobold

How do we get a cessation to his vandalism of Rep Nadler's and Councilwoman Glick's bios? This personal soap=box business is getting tiresome. Dogru144 15:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

In my experience, the easiest way to deal with these True Believer types, who don't respond to explanations of Wikipedia policies, is patience. A few of them learn how we do things and become productive editors. Most of them go right on edit warring, convinced that they can wear us down. After a few days or a few weeks or maybe even a few months, though, they discover that they can't. Then they go away.

Yes, his edits are tiresome, but ginning up any of the dispute resolution procedures would be even more tiresome. For now, at least, I think we should just keep reverting anything objectionable. With more than one of us monitoring it, no one person has to bear too much of the burden or risk a 3RR violation. JamesMLane t c 18:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair points; and good suggestions for perspective. Just giving a Independence Day cheers/heads up; and Rep. Nadler is getting smeared and a tad libeled, again. Have a great holiday. Cheers, Dogru144 14:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Your clerking Idea

Hi James, that sounds like something that might have potential. I think that you should post that on the official WT:RFA under a new topic, and see what the community thinks of the notion. Thanks, Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

DarkFalls has replied. keep checking back there, and you two can have a discussion. I'll join in if I have something to say. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism @ Glick & Nadler

Our editor-as-political blogger is back, in regular fashion. Cheers, Dogru144 02:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Deborah Glick and Jerrold Nadler, that is. Dogru144 02:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Category

The cat you added back into Nadler no longer exists. It was deleted after a CfD, so there is no point putting it back in, because the category has been zapped. - Crockspot 19:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It was the libertarian edit warrior who restored it. He just keeps mindlessly reverting to his preferred version. He first posted that version before the category was removed from the article, so every time he restores his POV attacks on Nadler, he restores the deleted category. I didn't add it back, I removed it. The good news is that the guy has now been blocked for a week. JamesMLane t c 02:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Trade union

Hi JamesMLane, thanks for giving trade union a bit of a work over. It's nice when someone actually does an end-to-end, as it were - you can notice it in the flow. Cheers. --Bookandcoffee 17:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

reverting

Yes - sorry about that. Moral is, I should read more carefully. I will take a look at the dispute tomorrow - just too tired to absorb it right now. Cheers Tvoz |talk 04:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Giuliani during 9/11 article

What is your opinion of shifting the discussion of Giuliani's handling of September 11? to a new article Rudy Giuliani during the September 11, 2001 attacks  ? We don't redundancy; but neither do we want a erasure of his misdeeds from the main article. Dogru144 18:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't solicit meatpuppets to make edits for you

This appears to me as a solicitation for meatpuppetry by you while in the middle of an edit war with myself and two other users. Just because you were running out of reverts and there were three editors against you doesn't mean that you should resort to such tactics here[1] here[2] here[3] and here[4] I will report any further abuses. |3 E |_ |_ 0 VV E |) 01:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually I looked and saw that those editors had more established accounts. I did not recognize them because they haven't posted on the Giuliani page or haven't posted on the page recently. Please accept my apologies. However, I think you should read over this here[5] and the section on gaming the system here[6]|3 E |_ |_ 0 VV E |) 02:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't let partisans bully you! Dogru144 05:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Dogru, I won't. I especially won't let them bully me when their attacks are as baseless as this one. I've responded in more detail at Talk:Rudy Giuliani (see [7]). JamesMLane t c 06:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I consider the above comment by Bellowed on James to be a personal attack, and his follow-up "apology" in which he cites two policies Bellowed himself continually violates, to be a continuation of that attack. This is of a piece with his disruptive editing history on the waterboarding and George Soros pages. --Eleemosynary 01:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Further attacks by Bellowed

I wanted to let you know that Bellowed is continuing his attacks on you to other admins[[8], specifically Chaser, in an attempt to justify his actions. I wonder if you would care to comment on Chaser's page, as this is most probably heading for an RfC. --Eleemosynary 02:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Jerrold Nadler, again

Blogging is going on again, via Uno Hu. Dogru144 13:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Youknowwho, that is, Dogru144 14:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed article rewrite project for homeopathy and related articles

Hello, I noticed that you were an active editor in the homeopathy article and I'm leaving you this message asking you to add some input into a proposed article rewrite project I have planned for it and related articles. This means that I will rewrite the article, post a rough draft as a sub page of my username, then when I am done I will gather all major contributors to work on the article from there following specific rules. Anyone who has been in previous disputes concerning this or related articles should be able to come to a compromise if they are reasonable. This project will take several weeks and will probably involve several other articles. Hopefully we can turn homeopathy and related articles into Featured articles or at least Good articles. If you're willing to aid in such a project then please leave a note of support here Talk:Homeopathy#Proposed_article_rewrite_project and answer these simple questions here Talk:Homeopathy#Questions_for_editors. Thanks. Wikidudeman ^(talk) 02:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

George Walker Bush redirect

I did not delete George Walker Bush; looking at the log for that page, neither did any other sysop. If you do see some red link to "George Walker Bush", that means it is not the authentic redirect that you'll get by typing the name into the search box, but rather a lookalike with one or more Cyrillic letters in the name. I would gladly point you to the copycat I deleted, but my machine hanged trying to load my deletion log so I can't. Resurgent insurgent 14:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Aha... found it - George Wаlker Bush. If you edit the page (click to see what I'm getting at), you'll notice that the name of the page in the address bar of your browser (the title= part) is not "George_Walker_Bush", but "George_W%D0%B0lker_Bush". That's the giveaway that it's a lookalike name. The redirect was initially created because a vandal moved the article there. Resurgent insurgent 14:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Please help with Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory titles

I would appreciate any help you could provide with the new Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory titles proposal/essay and also over on wiktionary's definition of "conspiracy theory" here. zen master T 23:10, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Commercialization at Liberty Dollar Page

Have you noticed that at the Liberty Dollar article there is a commercialization entry by our dear, dear friend, Nleobold? (He's promoting this dollar that he has launched, in honor of Ron Paul.) Check out: Paul Who/ how would we get someone to blatant commercialization of wikipedia? Dogru144 12:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Good point! I'd noticed his high level of activity on that article, but I hadn't looked at it closely enough to see his personal involvement and consequent conflict of interest. The article isn't nearly so biased as some articles I've seen, but it could use some cleanup. I must admit, however, that I don't care enough about the subject to take up the cudgels.

If you want to address the situation, more power to you. I'd suggest that you start by editing the article to make it more neutral. Be sure to explain your edits in the edit summary or on the talk page. Nleobold will undoubtedly revert your "vandalism". If you weary of edit warring with him, you might list the article on WP:RfC. The bright side is that, at least judging from his behavior on Deborah Glick and Jerrold Nadler, he's a somewhat lackadaisical POV warrior, who returns to make his improper edits only a couple of times a week. If reverting him when necessary proves to be too onerous, you can check out Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for more information about how to proceed.

My biggest concern about enthusiasts' articles like this one is if links to them are inappropriately spammed into other articles. If there are no such links, then the article isn't very effective as advertising, because no one will find it except people who already know about the product. Unfortunately, in this case, I can't tell whether there are such improper links. The "What links here" page is filled with articles that include the {{{dollar}} template. A separate listing of Liberty Dollar in, for example, United States dollar#See also would be spam. I can't readily tell if there are any such links, though. JamesMLane t c 08:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Connecticut for Lieberman page

I just added text from an article there, and I really don't know how to use correct footnoting and citation. Could you check it out and correct it? Thanks. Seraphim55 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seraphim55 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Unfortunately, Skorchin has once again gone into the CFL page and vandalized your work. I have requested that he/his sockpuppets/unknown IP addresses be blocked (see my note on Phil Sandifer's page) and have emailed Wiki administrators about this. I've also noted on the John Orman talk page Skorchin's vandalism dates, and have posted something on the Wikiquette alerts page. Any help you can provide would be much appreciated. Seraphim55 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seraphim55 (talk • contribs) 11:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

An edit isn't vandalism if it's a good-faith attempt to improve the encyclopedia. By that standard, I don't think the edit to my work is vandalism. That doesn't mean I agree with it, though. Last night, I wrote a detailed explanation on Talk:Connecticut for Lieberman of why I was reverting. At least, I thought I was reverting, but somehow the revert didn't take hold. I've now done the revert that I explained several hours ago.

As for the John Orman page, I agree with Phil Sandifer that Henshaw's party affiliation isn't relevant to that article. In addition, the "cited" source for the statement about her disaffiliation is documents on file in a town office in Connecticut. That isn't a published source that Wikipedia can use, under the policy of verifiability. Going to the registrar's office and checking their file constitutes original research. See WP:NOR.

On the other hand, I don't agree with your implication in connection with the John Orman article that Wikipedia should assert that Orman is the party chair. That statement simply isn't undisputed, the way it's undisputed that, for example, Lieberman is the Senator. We can state that he describes himself as chair (I think we should avoid "claims") and we can state whatever objective information is available about the Secretary of State's position, but Korchin is certainly entitled to contend the Secretary of State is wrong. There are numerous cases in which an administrative agency with responsibility for a particular subject has made a finding that X is true but the ultimate disposition (in court or otherwise) has been that X is not true.

We block users only as a last resort. An obvious intermediate step here, which I've suggested on Talk:Connecticut for Lieberman, is that User:Skorchin should acknowledge his WP:COI problem and submit proposed edits on the talk page, to be assessed by disinterested editors. I'm not sure what your relationship with the party is, but it would probably help improve the atmosphere if you followed the same course. As a relatively inexperienced user, he probably won't be blocked unless he persists in making problematic edits after the issues and the alternative approach have been pointed out to him. JamesMLane t c 14:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - much thought has gone into your response, and I appreciate it. I don't have time now to fully respond now. BTW, I am Susan Henshaw, CFL Party Secretary (whose registration has been, and continues to be the CFL Party). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seraphim55 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

A great idea - research pertinent to the John Orman or the Connecticut for Lieberman sites will be posted first on either talk page (I'll need help with editing, anyway). Additionally, I would like to post any changes concerning my party affiliation made Orman's site here, should the need ever arise.

Seraphim55 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to add something to Joseph Lieberman's page. When he moved to Stamford, Ct, he registered as a Democrat. http://www.thestamfordtimes.com/stamford_templates/stamford_story/289850115142016.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seraphim55 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I'll add the information to the Connecticut for Lieberman article, because some people might assume that Lieberman was a member of his eponymous party. I don't have a strong feeling about whether it should be in the Joe Lieberman article, which I generally don't edit. A quick glance at Talk:Joe Lieberman shows several discussions about how to report his party affiliation, so you might want to raise the matter there, noting this development. JamesMLane t c 16:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

There was a recommended diary at DailyKos this weekend, written bySprinkles which received many comments (some not so nice) concerning the issue. Thank you for your help. --Seraphim55 23:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Mr. Korchin has also added his thoughts to the Wikiquette page concerning the Henshaw issue. --Seraphim55 20:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I thought that you'd be interested in this partisan deletion of an article

POV deletion of articles by User:Bfigura

User:Bfigura has moved to delete The REAL Rudy on Robert Greenwald's viral video immediately upon its posting. The move to delete the article was made with no justification on my talk page or on the talk page of the article.

The {therealrudy.com} web site is politically significant. There are hundreds of google accessible hits as the result of the google search for it. The move to delete the article is probably politically motivated, as it is inconsistent with the survival of other viral videos. Note that there is existing commercially motivated material, such as the Ron Paul Dollar, promoted on the wikipedia page for Liberty Dollar. Yet, this has not been deleted. Dogru144 23:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Examples of other viral videos that have not been deleted

• I Got a Crush... on Obama
• Fox Attacks: Obama

The above is an example of a viral video that has not been deleted. Dogru144 23:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Good edits at The REAL Rudy

Good edits there -you've touched on the pliitalt contest that is key here; and you've inspeired me to strip the commercial spam out of Lib Dollar article. Cheers, Dogru144 03:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Warning

You have been discovered as a liberal cabal operative. Please remove your obviously slanted edits from this encyclopedia. Long live OGL (Our Glorious Leader). That is all. P.S. I'm drunk. Enjoy being right for the time being, as when the election gets interesting I'm looking forward to all the debates I'm going to wiki-0wn you in. --kizzle 04:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

My gosh! A kizzle sighting! Can Bigfoot be far behind?

And Ryan and I are the only ones favored by this visitation. I'm honored.

Meanwhile, whenever you sober up, you need to get your tail back in here and get to work. I don't know what makes you think the election isn't already interesting. There are constant attempts to whitewash the Rudy Giuliani article, with anything negative being removed to make more room for the news that he was cheered at a Mets game. I'm sure there's similar POV-pushing at the other candidates' articles but I haven't paid as much attention to them. Maybe you should go watch the Obama Girl video and get yourself fired up. JamesMLane t c 07:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)