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Can't Stand It

I remember hearing that Summerteeth was originally rejected because the record company didn't think it had a marketable single, so the band added Can't Stand It. Can anyone else corroborate this?

GA fail

Hey there! Whilst some really good work has gone into this article, I am afraid I am going to fail it for the time being. More detailed comments come after the template:

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
  5. It is stable.
  6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
  7. Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:


  • From the lead: "Released through Reprise Records on March 9, 1999, the album was heavily influenced lyrically by twentieth century literature and singer Jeff Tweedy's marital problems." Highlighted the part that doesn't make sense.
  • General prose issues, for example:
"The album sold approximately 200,000 copies, a modest number compared to 1996's Being There."
would be better as:
"The album sold approximately 200,000 copies, a modest number compared to the sales of 1996's Being There."
  • I added a [citation needed] tag to: ""A Shot in the Arm" was released as a single, but also failed to cross over to an alternative rock audience.". Not only do you need to provide a citation, you need to say something like "Tweedy hoped it would cross over to an alternative rock audience" (or whatever) to show why this is significant.
  • The paragraph about the reviews needs to be split up into 2-3 paragraphs for readability. It would also help to trim some of the quotes and leave only the most relevant & significant comments. Quotes that are 2-3 lines long shouldn't be in the middle of a paragraph.
  • You would do well to split the text about charting and accolades (for ex. the Pazz & Jop poll) from the text about reviews.
  • A section with it's chart positions would be nice (most album articles include those).

I hope these comments are constructive rather than unhelpful :) Don't be discouraged, you have a really good start here - you just need to push a little bit further to get to GA. I would suggest asking someone uninvolved to copyedit for you as a fresh pair of eyes can be helpful in identifying weak areas. Kamryn · Talk 07:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The Guardian [UK]

In the UK The guardian gave this album five stars on its release. I bought it on the strength of that review - thanks, the graun! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.100.201.42 (talk) 14:22, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

GA review

This has clearly had a significant amount of work put into it since the last GA review failed, it's great work. My opinions:

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
  5. It is stable.
  6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
  7. Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:

I made a couple of minor adjustments, a spelling mistake and a wasn't instead of a was not... But I'm happy to raise the article to GA. Well done. The Rambling Man 10:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]