Talk:Tough love

This article was nominated for deletion on 033006. The result of the discussion was keep.

Scope

What's the scope of this article? If it's just the "expression", fine. Or else, I'm thinking of citing some couplets from Tirukkural that exhort this "virtue" by saying "a good friend is someone who's tough with you when needed." -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 12:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

The External links are obviously biased. I think an interesting discussion would be secular vs religious tough love programs and the driving ideology dominating the facilities that are suffering the highest abuse rates. Facilities that are used as nationalist Christian training camps are obviously dysfunctional. But that isn't the purposed of tough love. Tough love is acceptance of the principle that HELPING a person destroy themselves and others is behavior in need of social intervention.

75.15.132.113 01:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking as someone who has survived 2 of these programs, I can assure you that it's not just the Christian training camps that are doing this. Read the news links for yourself- most aren't religiously affiliated. If you'd like some cold, hard facts about how many children/teenagers have DIED in the care of these facilities, check out this site. http://www.caica.org/NEWS%20Deaths%20List%20of%20Names%20-names%20omitted.htm Facts don't really lie, I've yet to see any positive reports about centers like WWASPS that weren't proven to be planted by employees. With the CAICA site, it's nice to put pictures of the deceased children with names and statistics about how they died. Maybe then you'll slightly understand. 76.185.121.215 10:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]